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[Jason LeBlanc]

Hook

A Complete Score Analysis

by Jason LeBlanc


Chronological Order (Official Sources only)

#	Title	Length	Source
1	Prologue	1:30	LLL 1-01
2	We Don’t Wanna Grow Up	1:50	LLL 1-02
3	Banning Back Home	3:14	LLL 2-11
4	Wendy's Entrance	2:11	LLL 1-04 [0:46-end]
5	The Bedroom	1:07	LLL 1-05
6	The Nursey Scene	1:38	LLL 1-06
7	Saying Goodnight	0:56	LLL 1-07
8	Hook Returns To Kensington	1:57	LLL 1-08 [1:59-end]
9	Hook Is Back	2:02	LLL 1-08 [0:00-2:02]
10	Forgotten How To Fly	0:46	LLL 1-04 [0:00-0:46]
11	Looney Wendy	2:24	LLL 2-14
12	The Arrival Of Tink / The Flight To Neverland	6:03	LLL 1-10
13	Presenting The Hook	5:03	LLL 2-12
14	Hook's Entrance	2:41	LLL 1-12
15	Hook Challenges Peter	7:50	LLL 1-13
16	From Mermaids To Lost Boys	5:13	LLL 1-14
17	The Lost Boy Ballet	3:32	LLL 1-15
18	The Face Of Pan	2:40	LLL 2-02 [1:21-end]
19	Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!	2:17	LLL 2-13
20	Smee’s Plan / Believe Your Eyes	3:25	LLL 1-16
21	More Never Band	1:20	LLL 1-17
22	Hook Lessons	3:08	LLL 1-18
23	The Banquet	3:10	LLL 1-19
24	The Never-Feast / Cutting The Coconut	4:41	LLL 1-20
25	When You’re Alone	3:16	LLL 2-03
26	Stop That Clock!	4:00	LLL 1-21
27	Remembering Childhood	13:42	LLL 2-01 [0:00-2:44] / LLL 1-22 / LLL 2-01 [2:44-end]
28	You Are The Pan	1:21	LLL 2-02 [0:00-1:21]
29	Tink Grows Up	2:20	LLL 2-04
30	The Ultimate War	17:53	LLL 2-05 / 2-06 / 2-07
31	Farewell Neverland	11:15	LLL 2-08
32	End Credit	1:48	LLL 2-09 [0:00-1:48]
33	Epilogue	1:42	LLL 2-15
	BONUS TRACKS
34	Prologue (Alternate)	1:35	LLL 2-10
35	Banning Back Home (Album Version)	2:25	LLL 1-03
36	Looney Wendy Insert	1:06	LLL 1-09
37	The Flight To Neverland (Original Ending)	1:31	OST 06 [4:24-end]
38	The Face Of Pan (No Choir)	2:38	OST 14 [1:21-end]

Complete Cue List



Note: All bolded cue titles are confirmed; The rest are made up titles by me.

#	Cue Title		Best Location		Notes
1	Hook Trailer	1:31	LLL 2-10 Prologue (Alternate)	1:35
2	  Revised version	1:23	LLL 1-01 Prologue	1:32	Needs to be speed up by 8.884%
3	1m1 Piano Intro	0:42	LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:00-0:42]	0:42
4	1m2 Peter's Entrance	1:07	Unreleased (1:01) / LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:42-0:48]	0:06	Unreleased section only available via DVD/Blu Ray rip [0:32-1:53]
5	1m3 We Don't Wanna Grow Up	1:00	LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:48-end]	1:00
6	1m4 Yuppie Sounds	3:15	LLL 2-11 Banning Back Home (Film Version)	3:15	Film Stem Rip
7	  Album Version	2:22	LLL 1-03 Banning Back Home	2:25
8	1m5 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen	1:02	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
9	2m1 Wendy's Entrance	2:11	LLL 1-04 Granny Wendy [0:46-end]	2:11	Clean opening only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
10	2m2 The Bedroom	1:08	LLL 1-05 The Bedroom	1:07
11	3m1 The Nursey Scene	1:40	LLL 1-06 The Nursery	1:38
12	3m2 Saying Goodnight	0:56	LLL 1-07 The Watch	0:56
13	3m3 Hook Returns To Kensington	1:58	LLL 1-08 Hook-Napped [1:59-end]	1:57	Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 1-08 Hook Attacks
14	4m1 Hook Is Back	2:07	LLL 1-08 Hook-Napped [0:00-2:02]	2:02	Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-09 The Children Were Screaming
15	4m2 Forgotten How To Fly	0:56	LLL 1-04 Granny Wendy [0:00-0:46]	0:46	Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-03 Granny Wendy I
16	4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 1)	1:06	LLL 2-14 Wendy Tells Peter The Truth [0:00-1:02]	1:02
17	  Looney Wendy Insert	1:06	LLL 1-09 A Portrait Of Wendy	1:06
18	4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 2)	1:19	LLL 2-14 Wendy Tells Peter The Truth [1:02-end]	1:21	Concorde I-10 (1:03-end) is proper film take, but worse sound quality
19	4m4 The Arrival Of Tink	3:31	LLL 1-10 The Arrival Of Tink [0:00-1:53] / pre-C 1-12 [1:55-2:59] / [2:59-3:27]	3:25	Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-12 The Appearance of Tink
20	  Revised celeste section	1:06	LLL 1-10 The Arrival Of Tink [1:53-2:59]	1:06
21	4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 1)	1:03	pre-C 113 Flight To Neverland 0:00-0:03 / LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [3:27-4:24]	1:00
22	4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 2)	1:33	LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [4:24-5:20] / OST 06 The Flight To Neverland [5:20-end]	0:56
23	  Revised Ending (86-98)	0:43	LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [5:20-end]	0:37	Film Stem Rip, pre-Concorde 1-15 Flight To Neverland III is from sessions
24	5m2 Arrival At Neverland	0:55	Unreleased
25	  Revised (Part 1)	0:21	LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [0:00-0:19]	0:19
26	  Revised (Part 2)	1:04	LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [0:19-1:22]	1:03
27	5m3 Slicing The Hand	1:25	LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [1:22-2:43]	1:21
28	5m4 I'll Take Those Shoes	0:49	LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [2:43-3:31]	0:48
29	5m5 Show Us Your Hook	1:38	LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [3:31-end]	1:37
30	  Vocal Overlay - "Hook, Hook, Hook!"	0:35	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
31	  Vocal Overlay - "Show/Give Us The Hook!"		Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
32	5m6/6m1 Hook's Entrance	2:40	LLL 1-12 Pirates!	2:41
33	6m2 Draw Your Sword!	2:14	LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [0:00-2:09]	2:09
34	6m3 Hoist The Kiddies	3:03	LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [2:09-5:09]	3:00
35	6m4 Tink Strikes A Deal	2:40	LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [5:09-end]	2:40
36	6m5/7m1 The Mermaids	1:18	LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [0:00-1:12]	1:12
37	7m2 To Neverland	2:03	LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [1:12-3:08]	1:56
38	7m3 Lost Boys Appear	1:16	LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [3:08-4:08] / OST 08 [4:08-end]	1:16
39	7m4 Enter Rufio	1:23	LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [4:08-end] / Unreleased (0:20)	1:05	Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 2-14 Boat Ride (Part I)
40	7m5 The Lost Boys Ballet	3:31	LLL 1-15 The Lost Boy Chase	3:35
41	  Drum Insert	0:31	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [0:56:25-0:56:56]
42	7m6/8m1 The Face Of Pan	2:42	LLL 2-02 You Are The Pan [1:21-end]	2:40	Clean opening available on Concorde I-18 You Are Peter
43	  No Choir Mix	2:42	OST 14 You Are The Pan [1:21-end]	2:38	Clean opening available on Concorde I-18 You Are Peter
44	8m2 Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!	2:16	LLL 2-13 Hook’s Blues	2:18
45	8m3 Smee Steals the Show (Stick With Me)	1:45	LLL 1-16 Smee’s Plan [0:00-1:41]	1:41	Clean ending available on OST 10 Smee's Plan
46	8m4 Believe Your Eyes	1:44	LLL 1-16 Smee’s Plan [1:41-end]	1:42	Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 1-37 Goodnight Neverland
47	8m4A Pick 'Em Up	2:10	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:06:05-1:08:15]
48	8m4A+B More Never Band	1:18	LLL 1-17 Pan Is Challenged	1:20
49	8m6New Hook Lessons	3:06	LLL 1-18 Hook’s Lesson	3:08
50	9m3 The Banquet	3:21	LLL 1-19 The Banquet [0:00-3:00] / pre-C 1-34 The Banquet [3:00-end]	3:21	OST/LLL track fades out early; Full ending on Concorde 1-23 or pre-Concorde 1-34
51	9m4 Cornucopia	2:59	LLL 1-20 The Never-Feast [0:00-2:57]	2:57
52	  9m4 Insert	1:01	Con 2-09 The Never-Feast (Second Unused Long Version) (1:09-2:08)	0:59
53	9m5 Cutting The Coconut	1:44	LLL 1-20 The Never-Feast [2:57-end]	1:43
54	10m1 When You're Alone (Maggie's Lullaby)	3:13	LLL 2-03 When You’re Alone	3:16
55	10m2 Stop That Clock!!	4:02	LLL 1-21 Hook’s Madness	4:01
56	10m3/11m1A Take Me Out To The Ballgame	0:59	Unreleased		"Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:26:23-1:28:50]"
57	  Part 2	1:28	Unreleased
58	11m1 The Home Run	2:49	LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [0:00-2:44]	2:44
59	11m2/12m1 Follow That Shadow	2:37	LLL 1-22 Follow That Shadow	2:38
60	12m2 I Remember	5:48	LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [2:44-8:24]	5:40
61	12m3 The Flying Sequence	2:43	LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [8:24-end]	2:39
62	12m4 You Are The Pan	1:25	LLL 2-02 You Are The Pan [0:00-1:21]	1:21	Clean ending available on Concorde
63	13m1 Tink Grows Up	2:19	LLL 2-04 Tink Grows Up	2:20
64	13m2 To War!! (with Alternate Insert 37-39)	2:27	LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [0:00-2:23]	2:23
65	  Insert Bar 37 (37-46)	0:17	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:47:54-1:48:11]
66	13m3 Crossed Swords	2:23	LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [2:23-4:40]	2:17
67	  Insert (58-63)	0:05	Unreleased		Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:50:20-1:50:25]
68	13m4/14m1 Form Rank	3:11	LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [4:40-7:50]	3:10
69	14m2 Daddy Is Peter Pan?	2:01	LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [7:50-end]	1:54	Film Stem Rip
70	14m3 The Death Of Rufio	2:27	LLL 2-06 The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio [0:00-2:13]	2:13	Film Stem Rip
71	14m4 The Sword Fight	2:37	LLL 2-06 The Death Of Rufio [2:13-end] / 2-07 Sword Fight [0:00-2:15]	2:25	Film Stem Rip
72	14m5/15m1 Winning By A Hair	2:16	LLL 2-07 The Ultimate War: Sword Fight [2:15-4:26]	2:11	Film Stem Rip
73	15m2 The End of Hook	2:24	LLL 2-07 Sword Fight [4:26-5:26] / Unreleased (0:20) / 2-08 Farewell Neverland [0:00-1:01]	2:01	Film Stem Rip
74	15m3 My Lost Boys	2:29	LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [1:01-3:20]	2:19	Clean opening available on OST
75	15m4 The Next Morning	3:50	LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [3:20-6:58]	3:38
76	15m5/16m1 Kensington Gardens	4:19	LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [6:58-end]	4:16
77	End Credit	1:53	LLL 2-09 End Credits [0:00-1:48]	1:48	Film Stem Rip
78	Exit Music	1:43	LLL 2-15 Exit Music	1:41

[Jason LeBlanc]

Since HTML tables come out really messy on the board, I made a nice spreadsheet that should make things easier to read. Here is that spreadsheet:

https://docs.google....S0E&output=html

Here is the complete cue list in an easier to read format


Hook Trailer
--Revised version
1m1 Piano Intro
1m2 Peter's Entrance
1m3 We Don't Wanna Grow Up
1m4 Yuppie Sounds
--Album Version
1m5 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
2m1 Wendy's Entrance
2m2 The Bedroom
3m1 The Nursey Scene
3m2 Saying Goodnight
3m3 Hook Returns To Kensington
4m1 Hook Is Back
4m2 Forgotten How To Fly
4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 1)
--Looney Wendy Insert
4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 2)
4m4 The Arrival Of Tink
--Revised celeste section
4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 1)
4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 2)
Revised Ending (86-98)
5m2 Arrival At Neverland
--Revised (Part 1)
--Revised (Part 2)
5m3 Slicing The Hand
5m4 I'll Take Those Shoes
5m5 Show Us Your Hook
--Vocal Overlay - "Hook, Hook, Hook!"
--Vocal Overlay - "Show/Give Us The Hook!"
5m6/6m1 Hook's Entrance
6m2 Draw Your Sword!
6m3 Hoist The Kiddies
6m4 Tink Strikes A Deal
6m5/7m1 The Mermaids
7m2 To Neverland
7m3 Lost Boys Appear
7m4 Enter Rufio
7m5 The Lost Boys Ballet
--Drum Insert
7m6/8m1 The Face Of Pan
--No Choir Mix
8m2 Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!
8m3 Smee Steals the Show (Stick With Me)
8m4 Believe Your Eyes
8m4A Pick 'Em Up
8m4A+B More Never Band
8m6New Hook Lessons
9m3 The Banquet
9m4 Cornucopia
9m4 Insert
9m5 Cutting The Coconut
10m1 When You're Alone (Maggie's Lullaby)
10m2 Stop That Clock!!
10m3/11m1A Take Me Out To The Ballgame
--Part 2
11m1 The Home Run
11m2/12m1 Follow That Shadow
12m2 I Remember
12m3 The Flying Sequence
12m4 You Are The Pan
13m1 Tink Grows Up
13m2 To War!! (with Alternate Insert 37-39)
--Insert Bar 37 (37-46)
13m3 Crossed Swords
--Insert (58-63)
13m4/14m1 Form Rank
14m2 Daddy Is Peter Pan?
14m3 The Death Of Rufio
14m4 The Sword Fight
14m5/15m1 Winning By A Hair
15m2 The End of Hook
15m3 My Lost Boys
15m4 The Next Morning
15m5/16m1 Kensington Gardens
End Credit
Exit Music

I'll be adding more information to these posts as soon as I have the time to do so

[Josh500]

Wow!

[Incanus]

Great job Jason!

The title needs some reformatting though.

[alicebrallice]

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

[Incanus]

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Ah you have not been following us long enough. Yeah it is Jason's numero uno score. He is the resident expert of it along with John Takis.

[Jason LeBlanc]

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Yep

[The_Trout]

YESSSSSS.

[Incanus]

Well it looks like we got a lion's share of this score with the LLL release. Some of those film versions with inserts and what not excluded.

Interesting. Enter Rufio is missing 20 seconds. And so is The End of Hook. Could they not be found for the release?

Do you happen to know what they contain Jason?

[BloodBoal]

Mmmm... I see there is a lot of information missing. Where is Crock Around The Clock? You could also add a * to cues that were written by William Ross. And you forgot to mention 5m4b Dueling Lost Boys, 11m3x Sir James And The Jolly Roger and 16m2 He's A Lost Boy (among other things)

[Trent Bennett]

Thanks for that Jason. It's nice to finally have the original cue names for the score.

[Alexander]

I have the feeling there's something wrong with the prologue. The right channel seems to be louder than the left channel.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Well it looks like we got a lion's share of this score with the LLL release. Some of those film versions with inserts and what not excluded.

Interesting. Enter Rufio is missing 20 seconds. And so is The End of Hook. Could they not be found for the release?

Do you happen to know what they contain Jason?

We've discussed the missing 20 seconds of The End Of Hook many times over. It's the portion that was dialed out in the film after the Croc falls on Hook, and the dust clears while the Lost Boys question "Is Hook gone?". The original music Williams wrote for that is a triumphant fanfare version of The Lost Boys Theme.

The missing end of Enter Rufio I suspect was only performed on the earlier takes, and a later take is what appeared on the Concord / pre-Concorde boots (and the LLL CD). Basically the missing end is just a slower reprise of the end of the cue as you know it, nothing major.

[Faleel]

I have the feeling there's something wrong with the prologue. The right channel seems to be louder than the left channel.

Just normalize the right channel....

[Jason LeBlanc]

So did anyone ever notice before that "The Arrivial Of Tink" on the pre-Concorde boot featured a complete different performance of the celeste passage than you know from the film/OST/Concorde/LLL CD?

It's at a much higher pitch and sounds more "other-wordly"/Fairy-like; It was a good idea but after hearing the result I think they were wise to re-do it and make it sound more "normal"


2 other things I think a lot of people don't realize:

"The Arrival Of Tink" does NOT overlap with "I Don't Believe In Fairies" (aka the Flight To Neverland) in the film - that combination was something crafted for the OST. And to make it happen, they removed the opening few notes of I Don't Believe In Fairies to make it sound better!

"The Banquet" fades out early on the OST and that fade was retained for the LLL CD; The original cue went on repeating for longer before ending (as heard in the film or boots)

[alicebrallice]

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Yep

hehe do you hate this?

[Alexander]

My ears... They're bleeding!

[Incanus]

[Faleel]

His ears must sound like goats...

[Incanus]

His ears must sound like goats...

It would be bleating not bleading if he was hearing goats.

[Faleel]

and it would be Bleeding if he were talking about blood coming out of his ears sooo...

[Trent Bennett]

I didn't realize until now that "The End Of Hook" on the LLL set is looped like in the film. You would have thought they would catch that and fix it.

[king mark]

I'll leave out any DVD/Blu Ray rips from my final assembly .

[MissPadmé]

I also noticed a "sloppy" transition in "The Ultimate War Part I: To War" 2:22-2:23.

looking at your list Jason it makes sense, "To War" ends and "Crossed Swords" does overlap with its last note I guess,
on the LaLa CD Crossed Swords starts a little to early, which may hardly be noticable, yes - but it seems like something that could have been easily avoided.

The Original Album does NOT have that sloppy edit - it plays just fine.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Yep. It sounds to me like all the tracks on the LLL CD containing multiple cues were combined from scratch from the original recording sessions cues (with the possible exception of We Don't Wanna Grow Up). It's most noticeable in the first half of The Ultimate War, but you can also tell Granny Wendy, Hook-Napped, etc are all different than the OST segues as well.

Form Rank also comes in too early.

[MissPadmé]

Yep. It sounds to me like all the tracks on the LLL CD containing multiple cues were combined from scratch from the original recording sessions cues (with the possible exception of We Don't Wanna Grow Up). It's most noticeable in the first half of The Ultimate War, but you can also tell Granny Wendy, Hook-Napped, etc are all different than the OST segues as well.

Form Rank also comes in too early.

ahh yes - now that you mention it..!
strange - I mean this is a great set, but how can mistakes like this happen? I cannot imagine the one or those in charge wouldn't notice that?

Great work as usual with your cuelist and analysis, thank's

[Faleel]

I'll leave out any DVD/Blu Ray rips from my final assembly .

Its gonna be hard to do that, and have it sound natural (with all the noise removal in the boots and the lack of clean openings endings)

[Incanus]

Although we have a great set in our hands with the LLL release I would love to know more about how it came about, the history of the whole production and what phases it went through.

[Fozmo]

Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one.

[Incanus]

Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one.

Johnny is good at using antediluvian words not only in interviews but also in cue titles.

[Luke Skywalker]

I didn't realize until now that "The End Of Hook" on the LLL set is looped like in the film. You would have thought they would catch that and fix it.

is that a complain?



Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?

[Fozmo]

Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one.

Johnny is good at using antediluvian words not only in interviews but also in cue titles.

Definitely! Always good to have a decent dictionary handy when watching a JW interview!

[Jason LeBlanc]

Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?

I have no idea if it was meant to segue to Lost Boys Ballet or not. I don't even know if the final cut of the film matches the footage that Williams wrote Enter Rufio to

[Maurizio]

It could be, but we don't have enough material to proof. It's clear the movie was re-edited quite a bit after the scoring sessions.

[BloodBoal]

Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?

I have no idea if it was meant to segue to Lost Boys Ballet or not. I don't even know if the final cut of the film matches the footage that Williams wrote Enter Rufio to

OMG!! LeBlanc doesn't know something about Hook score!

[Jason LeBlanc]

I think there is a very strong possibility it was meant to segue to The Lost Boys Ballet. I'd love to see Williams' sketch, as that would confirm it

[Mitchell]

I actually found something soothing about that remix. Clearly I've been listening to too much Black Swan.

[alicebrallice]

I actually found something soothing about that remix.

finally!! thank you!

[Kendal_Ozzel]

Yeah, I love it too. That guy's got some other great ones, although Hook is probably my favorite.

Also, I love how he takes the awesome-but-brief Smee dance and makes it into something even better.

[Datameister]

Original cue titles are always appreciated...thanks for posting, Jason!