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#1 JimmyCactus

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 02:48 AM

Here's the two first glimpse of the new soundtrack :

1 - The first one is coming from the new TV ad.
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2 - The second one is the first 10 seconds of "Battle of Heroes"
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 02:53 AM

Very cool! Thanks!

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 02:54 AM

Both are in fact the same song. Except the one ine the preview has a choir...

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:11 AM

Holy crap!:joy:

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:18 AM

That's the same thing that's in the ringtone thread, isn't it?
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:20 AM

Well,yes,plus the commercial with the choir!

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:22 AM

Holy crap!:joy:  

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crap yes, holy no.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:26 AM

I guess you don't like it then.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:28 AM

there isn't enough to know anything KM, certainly not enough to have an orgasm over.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 03:37 AM

Two more ads can be seen here.

And the music in "Unleashed" and "Tragedy" sounds like a variation on the trench music from Star Wars, just before Luke fires the proton torpedoes.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:13 AM

Yes.it does sound like it.I like less the Unleashed trailer....that raft thing over the lava didn't look too good.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:15 AM

that raft thing over the lava didn't look too good.

I was waiting for someone else to say it first. It seems CG surfing still doesn't look good yet, whether its on tidal waves or lava.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:18 AM

Star Wars. The concept is so great....

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:37 AM

Is there new music in the "Teaser" ad?

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:44 AM

I think that's just a condensed version of the teaser trailer.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 05:11 AM

Yes, the chorus notes and the ringtone are the same theme! Joe is right, it's not enough for a climax just yet, but it's interesting.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 05:39 AM

No surprise, the "Unleashed" trailer has some atrocious editing of "The Imperial March".

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 06:42 AM

That commercial is rather lame indeed.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:47 AM

Wow. First impression = Not immediately memorable - the theme sounds like a rip off of Cinque's theme from Amistad. But I'm hoping the fully developed arrangements etc will lodge the theme properly and faithfully into our memories.
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 08:06 AM

It's pretty good.Dark,bold,forboding..

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 08:16 AM

It isn't immediatly catchy....it reminds me of something from Wagner's Ring (Ofcourse Star Wars is compared to this, but I mean more directly in terms of sound and melody) ...very direct and simple...but not bad...what I like most about it is that it doesn't powerfully sound like something we've heard in star wars before...its no Duel of the Fates though, but thats okay...anything better than Across the Stars...

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 08:27 AM

Awesome. I can't wait for the album. But why do they keep using that horrible edit where the Imperial March so ungracefully slam cuts to that ba-doom sound at the end? That doesn't sound cool. It sounds horrible. ;)

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 08:55 AM

I'm thinking the theme is meant to be this:

in concert d minor, on french horn:

/ minim-tied to quaver, quaver, crotchet / minim, minim / minim, minim / minim, minim /
/ D E F / F E / D C / E D /

The first six notes are a truncated version of Duel of the Fates (DEFFED as opposed to DEF[GBbG]FED), the final four notes are a preliminary version of Darth Vader's Theme, and the majority of the phrase (....FEDC..D) is sort of Anakin's Theme. But this of course was not necessarily "planned" so meticulously.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:12 AM

Well, it's in 3/4, so much can be heard on the cingular clip. That clip goes like this:

Battle of the Heroes excerpt (Scorch file)

Note that in the choral excerpt during the "Tragedy" trailer, the two notes in measure 3 are different (C E instead of D C)
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:35 AM

Please don't anyone hate me for this (anymore than you already do) LOL

But I dunno if I like this theme or not... The Music for the trailer is interesting, but I find it quite cliché and almost corny.. but I remember thinking the same thing for some Harry Potter POA trailers but I loved that score ;)

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 10:01 AM

I am slightly reminded of Elfman's Spider-man theme.... I think it's the strings that does it.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 10:03 AM

The motif is good, and the bubbling and tortured rhythms beneath are great, especially the Cellos and Trombones. The Horns sound dry, like in Episode IV. Maybe they're bridging the gap in the sound Engineering?

I couldn't tell what was going on with that speedy Lava Platform. If it was supposed to be on the Lave it didn't work. The white mist made no sense.

If it was supposed to be flying, it seemed again, too advanced for the OT. But then again, its a big universe.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 01:12 PM

Really epic stuff! I like it! Very wagnerian and full-blown.

And the new tv spots are very good (apart from some atrocious music editing... 8O), very dramatic and tragic.

Anakin, you're breaking my heart!!... cheesy dialouge and performance once again. ;)
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 04:27 PM

Definately a great preview of BotH. I love it, with the chorus it's epic to the max!

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 05:44 PM

Its a nice contrast only hearing the melody in the ringtone thingy and then being able to hear the
fuller arrangement in the commercial. The other choir line underneath - kind of dissident
at times - makes a big difference for the better. Its the kind of weightier, darker atmosphere that
everyone has been expecting and that gets me particularly excited to hear the whole score.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:03 PM

Sounds rather promising to me.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:26 PM

That is the worst theme ever. Boo :)

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:36 PM

I hope it gets a bit more varied in thematic structure though...

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:59 PM

How do we certainly know this is Battle of the Heroes? Just because the ringtone is titled like that doesn't mean it is. If you search for Harry Potter ringtones you get constantly Harry Potter music that is titled 'Hedwig's Theme' and then you hear the Nimbus theme.
This could easily be another theme.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 08:16 PM

Because it's the same theme we hear in the TV ads.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:28 PM

I have mixed feelings about this. I'm reserving my opinions of this for now. Once the soundtrack and movie come out, we'll be able to see how this works out. And I thought the "Anakin, you're breaking my heart was really cheesy. But that chorus did sound really powerful!

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:36 PM

Yeah, I was a bit worried about that line too. I hope it works in context.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:38 PM

mmm I thought the orchestration was excelent, but the theme rather simple... :)

And did anyone noticed that in one moment Anakin has his scar on the opposite side??

Mmm to many weird things on a single ad....

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:57 PM

And did anyone noticed that in one moment Anakin has his scar on the opposite side??

That shot is flipped. His hair is also parted the wrong way.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 09:59 PM

the acting looks to be in line with the last two....sure its star wars, it doesn't have to be masterpeice theater...but come on guys....the acting in these films...embarassingly bad...infact, very humorous, i hope Episode III gives us some "good" acting moments like, "I hate sand" and "now this is podracing" among other greats.....




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