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  1. 17 points
    Hello, Some of you are already aware of this, but I want to spread the news to every JWFan here: After a few months working on it on and off, I'm now ready to launch this side project of mine which I hope will encounter interest among fellow John Williams admirers. It's time for me to give back the immense amount of gratitude I have toward this great composer. It's a blog called "The Legacy of John Williams": https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/ The purpose is to build a platform to collect and gather material from people around the world who were inspired by the music of John Williams--mostly musicians, composers, conductors, but also filmmakers, film professionals, historians, music critics and scholars. I want to give space also to admirers who have interesting stories and perspectives to tell and share. The goal is to celebrate the rich musical legacy John Williams is giving and leaving to our lives, for centuries to come. There is a larger and much more ambitious goal at the core of this project, but it’s too soon to speak about it. If this blog will get momentum and will become the platform I hope will be in the foreseeable future, everything will be addressed. As you can see, it's still work-in-progress, but from now on I plan to build and update it regularly, so be patient, I promise it will be worth your time. Taking a cue from the Maestro's writing process, I see this project as a living thing that can be improved and changed over the course of time. Today I published the first piece of content, an exclusive interview with pianist Gloria Cheng about the Montage recording/documentary: https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2018/09/27/conversation-with-pianist-gloria-cheng/ I've also set up Facebook and Twitter pages, so I hope you will like/follow: https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams https://twitter.com/TheLegacyofJW Of course feedback from anyone is greatly appreciated. Thank you for listening!
  2. 11 points
    LLL just retweeted a bunch of stuff about the new Harry Potter issue of Empire, and I refuse to believe that it’s because of anything besides an HP announcement.
  3. 11 points
    It was an f’ing awesome day!!!
  4. 9 points
  5. 8 points
  6. 8 points
    "Um, hey guys. Sorry I'm late. Had to do this thing for J.J. Baby and then traffic was a bitch on the way over here. But, uh, yeah, who is ready to get started?"
  7. 7 points
    leeallen01

    How do you rate The Terminal?

    I utterly adore the score and film. It is in my top 5 favourite scores from Williams. And top 5 films from Spielberg. The whole story is about Jazz, and how Tom Hanks' character wants to honour his dead father who loved Jazz, and you can really feel the importance and passion Williams put into the score, considering he and his dad's connection to Jazz. I honestly couldn't love it more if I tried. To me, this piece alone sounds like Williams is pouring his heart into each note. The melancholy of it is so powerful. I imagine Williams was writing this whilst thinking of his father and the times he learned Jazz piano with him as a child.
  8. 7 points
    No, just no. I don't want the same cue twice in the C&C just because the filmmakers edited it that way. Whose intention it is doesn't matter. What matters is that everything is included. When there are seven cues I want all of them: 1234567 and not: 1264567 one of them twice and another gets dumped. Whether it would have worked in the movie doesn't matter at all. "Drop Out" from Alien would have been inappropriate as hell in the movie - so exclude it from the main program? - No!
  9. 7 points
    Temple of Doom time! 1m6 Once In a Vial (The Nightclub Brawl) I decided to present the album version without the Dance Orchestra, notice the little "motif" for the Diamond/Antidote shots? https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/257053168 1m6 Once In A Vial - 1m6A Dance Orchestra (The Nightclub Brawl) https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/260998580 2m2 Out of Fuel With Inserts 1 and 2 (Map/Out of Fuel) I restored the album version of the cue, it seems to line up well enough. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/257524829 2m3 Down the Snowbank With 2m3B Sweetener (Slalom on Mt. Humol) I had no idea where to place the sweetener, so I just placed it anywhere and everywhere I thought it could work. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/259870440 2m4 The Indian Village https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/259877745 3m1 The Old Priest’s Tale I restored this unused early version of Indy and the Villagers, it seems to line up correctly, though I may have started it early. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/257516796 3m2 The Child Returns Original https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/257083927 4m3 To Pankot Palace I restored this cue, It may be off if the footage was actually edited. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/258829336 5m1 Entrance of the Boy King Not sure if this was how it was supposed to be used, or if the mockup is at the correct tempo, but here we are. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/256728785 5m2a The First Supper https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/256729648 5m2B Exchange of Glances https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/256733770 7m4-8m1 Slave Children (Children in Chains) I restored the ending, that was replaced/overlaid with the Indy theme insert. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/259890215 9m1 Short Round Escapes No Overlay This is the album version without the overlays https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/260993780 9m2 Willy in the Fryer Not entirely sure if this was how it was supposed to go, but it seems right, I used a mix of mockup, the stems from the IndyCast, and a bit of music from Lego Indiana Jones (the trombone slides) https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/257513540 10m4-11m1 Mine Car Chase (The Mine Car Chase) I restored the unused section somewhere in the middle, there seems to be some unused footage too. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/258843588 11m1 Water Music (Water!) I restored the original version of the cue, which was replaced with an insert. https://vimeo.com/album/5061267/video/258838902 Password: sandcastles Credit goes to these JWfan members for their excellent mockups: @airmanjerm (5m1 Unused) @Schookbaer (2m4, 3m2, 3m2a) @MrJosh (2m2 Bars, 2m3b sweetener, 3m3-4m1 bars, 5m2a overlays, 5m3 ending, 10m3 opening) @Datameister (1m7-2m1 bars, 5m2a, 9m2) Now would be a great time to start! 😁
  10. 7 points
    Richard

    the mstrox thread

    It seems apt, on this sad day, to present a little piece of good news, to wit...I started a new job, last Friday. I'm still in the "care" business, but I've returned to working with children, which is something that I've wanted to for a long time. I'm enjoying the work, and the money is good. Thank you, everyone, for all your messages of goodwill.
  11. 7 points
    Nick Parker

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Normally I let you off with your posts and enjoy hearing from you, but this is too much. I've never gone off on anyone in this forum...until now. Martin Luther King Jr. was a marvellous, courageous man who laid his life on the line for equality of humankind. He said this in response to the countless brutalities, persecutions, and injustices he experienced and witnessed, ones that cost countless people their freedoms, and in more than many occasions, their lives. We're talking about a goddamn series that was originally designed to entertain young boys. Entertainment. Compelling and inspiring entertainment, yes--but entertainment. For you to attempt to use this quote for your pitiful rat's squeal of a debate to convince people they're wrong for liking a --again, godDAMN fantasy series, is offensive, vile, and an absolute slap in the face of men and women such as Dr. King who sacrificed so much to see their fellow humans have a good shot at something we call life. You're saying liking new fucking Star Wars movies is dangerous, is willful ignorance and stupidity, tantamount to what Dr. King was referring to? I'd say you should see yourself in a mirror next time your brain spasms the impulse to utter such filth, but I don't think you'd see a reflection, you sub-human vampire leech. Shut your punk ass mouth up about goddamn, FUCKING Star Wars. We'd all enjoy your presence a lot more that way.
  12. 7 points
    Classic FM will broadcast the concert live! https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/john-williams-royal-albert-hall-live/
  13. 7 points
    Josh500

    Film cues Williams got wrong

    In my opinion, Short Round's theme has a slightly Chinese (or Asian in general) sound. It's full of optimism, energy, and fun. It evokes thoughts of open wilderness and unlimited adventure and possibilities. Not sure what's not to like about it! The first appearance of the theme (and the character it was written for). Always makes me smile...
  14. 6 points
    Stefancos

    How do you rate The Terminal?

    4 for both. Superbly enjoyable film and score.
  15. 6 points
    Fabulin

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    So as to make this thread fresh like TLJ's Critic Rotten Tomatoes score, I have prepared a read for you: This is what I think Rian Johnson did: The movie baggins: the First Order (Disney) has taken control of the galaxy. In the first scene it attacks and blows up the Resistance’s (fans) base immediately and without effort (EU declared non-cannon) A single pilot, Poe (Rogue One) tries to create an opportunity for a counter-attack, mocking the villains (Disney) and disregarding the superior—Leia (Kathleen Kennedy) who wants to play it safe. Classic rebel pilots (fans) at least take down a dreadnought, albeit with heavy losses. Enter the main setting: a soon left alone burning Idiocracy-class cruiser (The Last Jedi) that tries to fly away from the villains. Admiral Ackbar (George Lucas) is as good as dead. Princess Leia (Kathleen Kennnedy) spends the movie either unconscious or depressed, leaving everything to…. the superior officer brough out of nowhere: Vice Admiral Hold-oN (Rian Johnson), whose introduction is met with looks and whispers among the crew that lack only crickets chirping. Those who like Poe’s approach (think: Rogue One) are curious about what is happening. The commanding officer, Holdo (Rian Johnson) does not disclose the plan. Finn (fans) wakes up after his traumatic experience and true to his character has not many, as Poe suggests, but only one question: where da white girl at. After a scene parodying the fourth-wall fanboyism of the previous Star Wars episode and also making a running joke of the electrocuting of Finn, Finn and Rose (the fans) decide to go on a mission that will cripple the First Order (Disney) on their own. They contact Maz Khanata (Dave Filoni) for help. Maz has trade disputes (Clone Wars being halted due to it previously being on a different channel) and cannot help them. They try to go and find a codebreaker instead, and, having abandoned their vehicle wherever and rushed to the solution, storm in their everyday clothes into the Rich Capitalist party at Can’t Bite It (Shareholder representatives), who supply the First Order (Disney) with means of taking over the Galaxy. They see how some pig whips a beloved animal (Star Wars) and puts it to race other animals, while children watch with anger. Now the heroes (fans), looking for a codebreaker, instead of meeting the charming type (a solution straight from their dreams) fail through something as small and random as parking a vehicle carelessly (lack of taking the corporate etiquette into consideration) and are put into a cell. There they find some guy (Internet Sages) who apparently knows how to disable the First Order’s (Disney) tracking device; the heroes (fans) immediately believe him. They proceed to leave, while BB-8 (random factor) takes out the guards by shooting coins at them. The heroes (fans) show the children that they are with them in the rebellion (a ring with an OT symbol = good merchandise) and set the animals (Star Wars) free for a while, creating a rampage of chaos at the Rich People’s (Shareholder representatives) party. The heroes (fans) consider that it was worth it for the sake of it. The codebreaker (Internet Sage) arrives with a ship, somehow stolen (psst! aquired) from the Rich People (Shareholders), and explains that while they supply the First Order (Disney) with weapons, they also supply the Resistance (fans) with their cool X-wings (OT symbol = good merchandise) Finn and Rose (fans) then get betrayed by their codebreaker (youtuber) who apparently has a deal with the First Order (Disney). After some chaos caused by BB-8 (random factor) Finn and Rose (fans) give in to their hatred and, to let their frustration out, beat a doll of capt. Phasma (bad merchandise) and cast her into the fire. Then they come back to Admiral Holdo’s (Rian Johnson) group, having accomplished nothing. Meanwhile not everything went as planned. Holdo (Rian Johnson) sacrifices herself by hyperspace ramming [a move so strong that it appears to break the Star Wars rules] and it is clear now, that she secretely liked Poe (the fans). Now what is left of rebel transports (that were to be Rian Johnson’s Thrilogy) spawned from the main ship (The Last Jedi) heads to a planet covered with salt and pokemons. One of the people now fighting on the ground is Gareth Edwards, the director of Rogue One… Meanwhile Rey (fan power fantasy) goes for the help to Luke Skywalker (OT veterans like Kurtz and Kasdan). Luke is bored to death already with this and throws the lightsaber over his shoulder. What would he be possibly able to do? Go out and face the entire First Order (Disney)? Rey (fan power fantasy) sleeps outside, feels cold and is a bit annoyed but also sad. [Rey made likeable? Impossible—one would think…] The running gag how Rey (fan power fantasy) beats everyone with melee weapons is continued in the sticks scene, while Space Skype Calls arranged by Snoke (or “The Voice of Sanity” which already literally mopped the floor with Disney’s/ferst orda’s representative and also ordered a destruction of that embarassing mask) show her that the stories of the past are incoherent and contradicting. Kylo Ren (new Disney SW stuff) is awkwardly naked and says only that the past must die. Rey (fan power fantasy) calls him names. During her visit to the island, she is also taught a thing or two by Luke (OT veterans). She argues with him about the Jedi (Star Wars lore). Luke is in despair with where the world is going and decides to let go of the Sacred Jedi Texts (works from the EU). A plot device Yoda appears and calls him on not really reading them and them not being so captivating anyway. Then Rey (fan power fantasy) goes to Kylo Ren (new Disney SW stuff) to confront him. Snoke (The Voice of Reason) throws Kylo Ren (new Disney stuff) around, but also tortures Rey (fan power fantasy). Finally Kylo kills Snoke (fuck logic) and proposes to Rey… that they would rule the galaxy together. Rey (fan power fantasy) declines and goes back to her friends, the Resistance (fandom). Back on the planet of salt, the rebels (fans) decide not to attack the First Order (Disney) head-on, with Poe (Anthology films) deciding to fight another day and Rose saying something about not fighting through hate (remember bashing the Captain Phasma doll?). Meanwhile Luke (OT veterans) shows up and gives Leia (Kathleen Kennedy), of all things… The Dice from Millenium Falcon (Solo: A Star Wars Story). He then proceeds to fight by mere… let’s say brand recognition and gravitas. Kylo Ren (new Disney SW stuff) is outclassed and so enraged. At the same time Rey (fan power fantasy) aboard the Millenium Falcon enjoys herself and destroys some TIE Fighters. She then lifts tons of rocks and saves the day. Everyone who is left alive flees in the Falcon: Poe, Finn, Rey, R2-D2, C-3PO, Chewie, Nien Numb, Sacred Jedi Texts, BB-8, Rose and Leia. Imho one could save the galaxy with the contents of this ship alone now. Let that sink for a while. (Post-credits-scene) Enter: Jar Jar “Mystery Bucks” Abrams, ready to make people at Canto Bight happy again Thank you for the read; my take on Star Wars might not be correct, but hey, maybe it amused some people… —Rian Johnson
  16. 6 points
    Yeah right. What's next, Williams actually wrote Chamber of Secrets?
  17. 6 points
    I'm sure there are a gajillion errors. Feel free to point them out, and I'll correct them! No way, Thomas and the King is shite. Although it's grown on me a little since I wrote that thing. ONLY a little, but still. There's actually a fifth part covering 2006-2015: http://thetruthinsidethelie.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-guided-tour-to-works-of-john-williams_17.html Thanks for the kind words! I can't really remember what motivated me to put such a thing on my King blog, but it was fun to write.
  18. 6 points
    La La Land will be bought by Disney! I know this 'cause Mike Mattesino talks in his sleep.
  19. 6 points
    What else am I missing?
  20. 6 points
    Steve McQueen

    the mstrox thread

    My expectation was met. The weekend went by too fast. It is Monday, but I've started off on the right foot, I think. I decided, just for the you know what of it, to ask a different girl out. This one I've seen on the train a couple of times before. Decided to roll the dice. She seemed a little flattered at my lunch invitation, but said she is dating someone else. Fair enough, and no surprise. I think I was considerably smoother this time. Maybe I'm finally starting to come out of my rather thick shell. That's all for today's edition of Steve's Love Life, a recurring column at the mstrox.
  21. 5 points
    Disco Stu

    What Do You Still Like About JWfan?

    The moderation is fine. Certainly better than the opposite, forums where moderators capriciously ban people left and right, obsessively micromanaging discussions.
  22. 5 points
    Nick1066

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Don't be silly. Neither of you would get banned for such a thing. You should be (for that and many other reasons). But you won't.
  23. 5 points
    Won't be LLL or Intrada? I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewie, take the Professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!
  24. 5 points
    I proofread the liner notes and Miguel and Maurizio helped locate articles with quotes from Williams discussing the score.
  25. 5 points
    Datameister

    Film cues Williams got wrong

    While I really love to listen to ESB's complete score, including the many unused passages, I agree that some of them really wouldn't have been right for the film. Very little of the unused lightsaber duel music achieves the tone I would expect...the music for the confrontation with the probe droid is awesome but far too weird for the scene...Yoda's scenes definitely benefit from the dialing out of some of the score...again, this is all stuff I'm glad he wrote, but I don't think it would have served the film well. And in the realm of Star Wars, the original cue for "Binary Sunset" is a pretty obvious misstep. The unused original first half of "Escaping the Pit" from Raiders would have been way wrong for the scene. The fix that Williams wrote is better, and the additional tracking of the Raiders March helps the film, too. La La Land's recent E.T. album reveals what a disaster the original music for the spaceship's first departure would have been. Absolutely love the direction he took it in for the revised cue (as well as the similar passage he wrote for the departure from Tatooine in Jedi). I'll take major flak for this, but I think "Ewok Celebration" is a total miss, and I greatly prefer the new "Victory Celebration" that Williams wrote all those years later. One of the few good things to come from the SEs. Donning my flame-retardant suit now... I'm not a fan of most of the inserts Williams wrote for "Out of Fuel" in TOD, especially the ones that introduce rests into the middle of the cue. The original version of the cue is better all around. I seem to recall there being a couple of largely unused cues in Hook when the titular villain is threatening the kids on his ship, fairly early on. Those feel weird when played with the film. I can't help loving "Banning Back Home", though. Objectively, I know it's a total (intentional) rip-off, and I know it's completely out of place in the score, but I just enjoy the cue so much that I don't worry about it. Not a fan of the mostly unused "Hungry Raptor" cue from JP. I mean, I enjoy it in and of itself, but it feels too cartoonish for use in the film. "Into the Kitchen" ("The Raptor Attack") feels pretty weird if you try to listen to it with that scene in the film, too, though I love the cue overall. I'm ambivalent about "Goat Bait." For TLW, I approve of the disuse of some of the music in San Diego, too (although I think many of the music editing decisions in the final cut of the film overall make it a less interesting score). From TPM, "Anakin Defeats Sebulba" baffles me. It fits the scene it was used in sooooooooo much better than the scene it was written for (aside from that final statement of Anakin's theme). I definitely think the badass statement of the Trade Federation theme from "The Armies Face Off" works a lot better when the battle droids are later deployed, as heard in the film. The original "Owl's Flight" from HPSS is a pretty weird cue for that scene. I wonder what Williams saw for this scene in the spotting sessions. Whatever it was, the gorgeous revised cue is a vast improvement. Then there's TLJ, whose score drops the ball far too many times to count. Weird uses of themes (e.g., Kylo Ren's theme when the First Order fleet appears), awkward transitions with passages already written for previous scores, insane overuse of been-there-done-that renditions of the Force theme, etc. Don't get me wrong, there's some stuff I love in that score, but it's got some crazy misfires in there.
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