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  1. 13 points

    John Williams and your family

    I wasn't sure how to call this thread but I was wondering what your family thinks of JW ? Do they love his music as much as we do or to the contrary do they not care about it at all ? Reason I'm asking this is because my 5 year-old niece gave me this, saying " here's a drawing I made just for you, it's John Williams conducting Harry Potter music !!" 😊 I guess I'm doing a good job as an uncle 😃
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  3. 12 points
    Let me give you my perspective on Williams and his "decline"... I'm in my mid-30's now and I already often feel like I'm running out of energy. Williams wrote his first Star Wars score in his mid-40's... 42 years ago! And now he's still writing them and they are both twice as long as that first one. So, if you thing about it, he wrote, 4 times the amount of music in those couple of years for two films with another one coming out soon. After 40+ years it's quite a normal thing to take Williams' contributions for granted and, yeah, they are probably not as "fresh" anymore. But the fact itself that we're still getting music quite this good is amazing. They might be bit underwhelming if you put them in context of his larger body of work by, make no mistake, this is highly accomplished music and any of his colleagues would agree. One of my first reactions to hearing some of the busier passages in The Last Jedi while attending the midnight showing was: "That doesn't sound like a guy in his mid-80's. Is he doing coke now?" 😂 Karol
  4. 9 points
    The first Williams/Spielberg collaboration, of course! Happy 45th birthday, Williams/Spielberg!
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    Maybe the lack of music during the first trench run is supposed to highlight the fact that this run won't succeed. In the final cut of the film, once Biggs' scenes on Tatooine and his reunion with Luke on Yavin IV were cut, Luke is the only Rebel pilot we know. Wedge has a name, but we barely met him before this battle. The first trench run pilots are all new characters and Luke isn't in the sequence. If they succeed, then Luke flew with them for no reason. He's our main character and has earned the right to avenge his fallen friends and family by becoming the hero. In retrospect, the lack of music underscores the first trench run as a dry run for the audience so they know what to expect. Then when Luke makes his run with music, we know it will succeed even as his technology falters.
  6. 9 points
    I’d like free lunch at the quarterly board meetings, a fooseball table in the break room, and permission to leave early on Fridays when the weather is nice.
  7. 8 points

    Star Wars Disenchantment

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    Nick Parker

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Mattris, dear friend, I think you cracked the case. Allow me to explain. Johnny, roll the tape as I connect the dots. All of the evidence you need is in the Snoke torture scene in The Last Jedi. When Snoke is torturing Rey, you hear the Emperor's Theme. At the time of release, everyone was puzzled as to why Williams would use that theme. But of course, the answer was in the scene itself. Look at Rey, listen to her. Obviously, she's in pain, but perhaps the source of the pain is not as obvious as you would first think. Johnson, being a master subverter, distracted us from the truth, which lies in the answer to this question: when is the only time you see and hear a woman in that kind of pain. When they're in labor, of course. Snoke was using his Force powers to prevent Rey's birthing of a child, but you have to ask: why would Snoke prevent Rey from giving birth? It wasn't to protect his apprentice Kylo Ren from having his illusion of an "untainted" Rey shattered. No, it was because Snoke knew, he knew that the child Rey would spawn would be a grave, serious threat to him and his supremacy. Now, who, _who_, would you ask, ever pose such a threat to Snoke, such a threat that he felt no choice but to suppress the child in Rey's womb? Well, the answer to that question was answered by none other than John Williams, in that very moment. But with Snoke dead, now no one can stop Rey from bearing this child. Once this plot thread plays out, the sequel trilogy will magically make sense, every shortcoming, every flaw the previous two films had will be wiped clean, and the trilogy will be saved.
  9. 8 points
    Could it be that Rian Johnson temp tracking most of the film with old JW Star Wars music and not having an actual spotting session with the composer might have something to do with it.
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    Dougie For Moderator 2019

    Thanks for the reports! The spammer was banned and all of his posts are gone.
  12. 7 points
    If I had one wish that I could wish this holiday season, it would be for people to be polite to each other instead of rude in the spirit of harmony and peace. If I had two wishes that I could wish for this holiday season, the first would be for people to be polite to each other instead of rude in the spirit of harmony and peace.. and the second would be for $30 million a month to be given to me, tax-free in a Swiss bank account. You know, if I had three wishes that I could make this holiday season, first, of course, would be for people to be polite to each other instead of rude.. the second would be for the $30 million every month to me.. and the third would be for all encompassing power over every living being in the entire universe.
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    My only wish would be for people to be polite to each other instead of rude
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    Yeah, because in the 70s they had actual spotting sessions. Nowadays the director and the composer watch the film together and then decide within ten seconds that the entire film must be crammed with mediocre, non-thematic droning.
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    Star Wars Disenchantment

    You know what they say, "one man's nightmare is another man's fetish" In this thread: Mattris: says lots of weird things Everyone: that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard Leeallen01: hold my beer...
  17. 7 points
    Okee, I moved all the off-topic posts out of here, and into the Disenchantment thread. People of JWFan, please only discuss Episode 9 related stuff in this thread. @Mattris, you've shown me no reason in your time here on this site that you are not here for the sole purpose of arguing and debating with people about Star Wars, because you don't like the franchise any more. There is nothing wrong with having that viewpoint and there is nothing wrong with debating topics back and forth on a message board, but every other user here balances out negative posts with positive ones, argumentative posts with appreciative posts, informative posts with silly posts, etc. As a result I moved ALL your posts from here into the Disenchantment thread even the ones specifically about Episode 9. If you want to be a contributing member of our forums, you're going to have to act more normally and less trolly and argumentative. If you don't want to do that then I'm afraid I'm going to request that you do 100% of your posting in the disenchantment thread until you can prove that you deserve to be let out of it. Even if you want to reply to this message, do it in that thread. Thank you.
  18. 7 points
    Jim Titus BTS post: https://www.behance.net/gallery/76988997/40-YEARS-The-Music-of-Superman-Part-I?fbclid=IwAR2_OAM4av5mW2E5nCKelryI9xJRSGC9JyTAWyL7mQMHoVWpgDTfaXgC5Rc
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    It’s funny, there seems to be a general dislike for March of the Villains on the JW forum, but it’s one my favourite marches in Williams’ oeuvre.
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    Chen G.

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    As I understand it, the power in question has to do with keeping one from dying of old age or illness. Not from being thrown down an impossibly-deep shaft. That power belongs to Gandalf the Grey!
  21. 7 points

    STAR WARS Custom Covers thread

    Series based on the art of Ralph McQuarrie. Alternates:
  22. 6 points

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    It looked to me like his tomfoolery was defeated ages ago here, no? Isn't it just the case that the thread now serves as a guilty pleasure to bored JWFanners?
  23. 6 points

    What Is The Last Score You Listened To?

    Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace by John Williams: It has been a while since I last listened to this one and again it sounded so fresh, constantly interesting, energetic and vibrant. This is the fun swashbuckler of the Prequels before all comes to angstier doom and gloom of its sequels, rooted in the Williams adventure sounds of late 1980's and 1990's but given a Star Wars treatment with its signature flourishes and fanfares. Duel of the Fates is to my ears still very exciting and visceral even thought it has been played to death in these intervening years and the very definition of EPIC but Williams also incorporates it neatly into the fabric of the score without it ever being too obtrusive and its three main components, the ostinato, the main melody and the choir chant are employed in various ways in the original vision of the score (which was so butchered in the film). Add to that Anakin's theme, the neatly deconstructed innocent origins of Darth Vader's music, music for Shmi, Jar-Jar Binks, the Trade Federation Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Maul and the Rózsa-esque Flag Parade and you have a diverse and colorful collection of themes to play with, not to mention the whole host of the old themes from the original trilogy. The score is best enjoyed in its complete form (on various fan edits) as the OST is still one of the most dissatisfying listening experiences among Williams' many albums. Such vibrant energetic fun!
  24. 6 points
    TFA didnt overuse the Force Theme at all. TLJ did. Probably had something to do with the directors.
  25. 6 points

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Mattris leaving the confines of the SWD thread and posting elsewhere on the forum is like the T-Rex in The Lost World, when it escapes the island and rampages San Diego.