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That entire post is ludicrous! The History of the Ring theme... not a theme.... my god, what has this place come to!

Sometimes people talk about Star Wars like it was a Tarkovsky saga before it was taken over by the evil Disney goons. And please save your analysis on my tastes and your broad generalizations on who is interested in these movies. Star Wars was never a director centric franchise. It was always a deeply colaborative product, probably to a greater extent to most movies, in the sense that the artistic contributions of several individuals are probably more recognized that in any other movie project I'm aware of. People talk about the fan service in TFA, but it was Lucas himself that made Yoda friends with Chewbacca in ROTS and gave us the most cringe worthy fanboyish "fuck yeah" moment of all time with Yoda dueling Palpatine. Disney gave the keys to the kingdom to a pretty much indie director, with no big hits under his belt and no large budget experience. They allowed Rian Johson to write the movie on his own. By all accounts, they offered him the same job for IX. A director which I find has a very interesting voice. These movies supply JW with a fantastic canvas to play with. So I'm excited about these movies. I?m hoping for some really fun pulpy adventures with mythic grandeur to them. If they don't deliver, they don't. But I'm still excited and actually optimistic. Plus, this new saga is something I'm actually enjoying sharing all the build up and expectation with some friends. Particularly the ones much younger than me, like Miguel's son. So I'll save the cynism for a bunch of all other things in my life

The studios that own the music only grant them licenses to sell physical CDs. They keep the digital rights for themselves. LLL would happily sell everything digitally too if they could.

One thing that makes me optimistic about Johnson is just the variety of influences he's been name-dropping over the course of promotion so far. Other movies he's mentioned feeding into his VIII prep include Kill!, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Gunga Din, The Letter Never Sent....just seems to be a curious, worldly fella who might have wanted to make a curious, worldly film. His previous work points towards that. Also makes me wonder what's in store for the music since on past films he's mentioned influences like Anton Karas's Third Man score, Ennio Morricone, and Tom Waits for Brick, Nino Rota and The Band for Brothers Bloom, and of course Looper had a lot of "found music" from household appliances synthesized into electronic sounds and rhythms. I mean, pretty much everything but "traditional" scores and John Williams. At the same time, he's made clear his excitement about working with our man, so you wonder where the taste overlap might be. What are his favorite Williams scores? I bet it wouldn't just be limited to Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Doesn't seem like somebody who would just ask John Williams for the usual stuff for every cue. I mean, writer/directors should be interested in lots of things. That's what makes them interesting! It helps enhance their self-expression. Part of my frustration with a talented guy like JJ Abrams is that his mantra often seems to be "I love Star Wars/Spielberg/M:I and I'm going to make a movie about THAT which is all about how much I love THAT!" TFA was a good Star Wars movie mostly about how much JJ Abrams loved Star Wars. Whenever he talked about the movie, he kept referring back to A New Hope. He did also mention rewatching Seven Samurai, The Searchers, and The Tree of Life at one point and they might have helped in different ways, but he didn't necessarily give much indication as to why other than they're great movies. At the risk of sounding snobby, they are sort of solid "established" picks...ultimately you can't help but wonder how deep his well of cinematic inspiration really goes outside of genre fare. The proof is sort of in the pudding, anyway. Same with music....I can tell that he likes John Williams, which seems to be a factor in why he likes Michael Giacchino. And I know he likes the Beastie Boys. What else in this wide world inspires him? It's hard to tell from the films.

Yes! We will finally learn the truth in Episode IX!

Crap, should have read about that yesterday... Actually, I was quite curious about this release, but never really thought Williams was associated with it. As for the number of sessions Williams worked on, it's rather difficult to say. There are probably many we will never know about, namely the television ones. But I would say that surely under a 100, if you only count film/tv scoring sessions. Remember that he started around 1957 and within 5 years was already very busy scoring his own TV Shows and films. Williams started in the late 50's only. In the early to mid 50's he was either in the army or in New York - where he met, among others, Vic Damone, playing on clubs, and whit whom would later record in the 60's for CBS. There is a double disc from Freshsound Records of Williams recordings, both on the piano and conducting, dating from recordings from the late 50's and early 60's. But beware, there was another jazz pianist, by the name of John (Thomas) Williams, active during the mid 50's, mainly on the East Coast. He was the one who played with Zoot Zimms and Stan Getz.

Like a few others, my only interest in Star Wars at this point is Williams' music. Once Williams is done with Star Wars, so am I.

I turned 30 today and Will was born after Napster was even a thing anymore. I can feel the cold hand of Time beginning to tighten her grip round my throat.....

JNH will have your chance. Maybe it will not be long before that happens. Fact is that our previous impression that Giacchino will take care of all the future movies of the franchise was wrong. They will bring out several other composers. I like it. It honors and respects at the same time the JW's legacy. I assume that the reluctance to accept the work is motivated by the departure of Desplat (a respectable composer) and of so many other professionals involved with the movies. It is frightening to be fired from a project with so much visibility.

Wow! Hopefully he'll get to do one in the future.

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Yea, its the entire palette that makes LOTR the rich and rewarding experience it is, but the HOTR theme is still the main theme of the score!

Especially with Avengers 3, Incredibles 2, and Ant-Man 2 all releasing in summer 2018

Unlike Empire Strikes Back, Revenge of the Sith is embarassingly over the top dramatic.

Thor and I agree. Just watch the movie! No, but this is

You can't do it wrong.

Not even The Reivers? Wow! You need to at the very least listen to that one. (a) it's a fantastic score and (b) it's the score that made Spielberg want to hire Williams in the first place!

Looks like they didn't pony up the cash for the Springsteen song. Shame. Hard pass.

Interesting. But I doubt I'll get this. There are probably dozens of movies whose scores feature a young JW on the piano. You gotta draw the line somewhere!

My position is basically: I hope the movies are good, but I won't be affected at all if they aren't.

Waiting for a Star Wars movie director who is inspired by Borat, honestly.

You've hit the nail on the head! They keep the license for themselves with the intent that they will sell it digitally themselves.... and then they never do! Well, not NEVER, but its very rare. Mike M's expanded edition of Back To The Future Part II that got put out by Intrada on physical CD and then sold digitally by Universal is the only one that comes to mind!

You can check my further thoughts on None But the Brave here.

JNH will obviously get his chance if he was asked before Powell. Based on that, he's high on their list (probably in no small part to his Potter score). Sorta interesting that Gia appears to be out of the picture, unless he turned it down first. Either way, it'll never happen with JJ directing but I'd much rather JNH composed Episode IX if JW couldn't.

None But the Brave is a nice glimpse into Williams' dramatic writing from the early era which already contains shades of his later stuff. The song version (not done by Williams) is atrocious though, as so many of those themes turned into songs were in that period apart from a select few.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. I ordered this little-known gem too!

Today I bought 5 albums, all used! Penelope (John Williams) None But the Brave (John Williams) John Goldfarb, Please Come Home! (John Williams) Out of Africa (John Barry) Frontiers, compilation album (Jerry Goldsmith) Up until recently, I wasn't very interested in the pre-Jaws JW scores, but now I've decided to try to get them all! Anyway good haul, I paid around 70 Euros for all 5!

Yeah I'm not aware of any Australian speciality websites who stock LLL. Would just be better value to get two releases at the one time, given the initial shipping charge. If only we knew when Close Encounters was coming!

This is great!! Awesome combo. There is a ton of good swing/latin combo jazz out there, I think much of that would be up your alley. I just listened to the first about 8 minutes so far, but immediately thought of Eddie Daniels, one of my favorite jazz clarinetists, definitely look up his stuff - And Paquito d'Rivera - Just a couple to start off - I may come add more later There are SO many great groups!

Son of a fucking-ass bitch!! I literally said dozens of times over the last year that I really hoped JNH would score the Han Solo film... now only to find out he was going to! I like John Powell, but JNH would have been the best choice! Stupid Nutcracker shit, whatever that even is. Guess I'll just listen to the new Waterworld release over and over again wondering what could have been...

I seem to remember JP emptied my wallet on shipping too.

Yes, it meant John Williams was here to stay!

Well, I must say I had a really great time today. The expectation of the sale, buying it on day one, listening to the samples. I'm a really happy JW fan now. It all made me think how fans felt back in 1996 when the first expanded release was announced, together with the LD iso score. If this forum existed back then (did it?), I can imagine this going to, like, 50 pages in one day.

I just listened to the samples! Man, how great is the OST version of "E.T. and Me"?! I'm looking forward to listening to the OST tracks for the first time! (No, I have never listened to the OST so far)

Says the person who says a few inserts and overlays aren't important. Clearly they are to a contingent of fans. They certainly matter to me. And no, the 4K UHD is not "pointless" if you own the blu-ray. Sorry, but while many, many members here outclass me with their intricate knowledge of these scores, the movies themselves are my area of expertise. Unless you're watching a 4K master from the OCN with full 4K workflow (as E.T. is) on display technology that can truly reveal the benefits of it, you really don't have room to say that these new discs aren't an improvement. I will tell you that, at least on my LG OLED65E6P, the new 4K disc is phenomenal, and is not a pointless release in any way.

So it's different/weird enough to upset hardcore fans and not just the safe Guardians of the Galaxy brand of different-weirdness? Great news!!

Braveheart works very well that way. That previously unreleased cue "A Father's Final Return" is (my favorite) addition not heard outside the film prior to the LLL release, and a prime example of how to use the synth strings and choir effectively in place of the orchestra. It didn't need the grandeur of the opening LSO strings in "Royal Wedding". The still-unreleased film version of "Betrayal and Desolation" transitioned from orchestra to a synthesized ending. "The Pelican Brief" goes back and forth a lot, as does "Searching For Bobby Fischer" and "Clear and Present Danger". I'm sure some scores might have been done this way for budgetary reasons, but if you follow the reasoning of "Field of Dreams" and how the orchestra was held back until the end, but had synths and acoustic instruments all the way through prior, a lot of these could be, and in some cases sound like, creative choices.

SlashFilm editor/reporter mentions reactions he's heard from people who have seen The Last Jedi

I still cannot see that name without thinking of.....

I ended up ordering from Creature Features for a signed copy. Wanted to go in person but won't be able to make it, sadly. This movie and score honestly means a lot to me. I always saw it as unfiltered imagination that was allowed to play before us onscreen, without giving a damn what anyone else thought or wanted. And I mean that in the best way; making a film that THEY WANTED to make. I always thought the lukewarm reception to it was unfortunate, but it seems like a lot more people are finally starting to like it more. I read somewhere than an art book was being released soon and I DEFINITELY want it. Looking at the track list, it seems I must have been wrong about "Flying Lizard" having a film alternate. Perhaps it just had a different mix in the film? Seems likely. Otherwise it appears it has everything the lossy footwarmer had (but of course numerous cues mixed together, which I think is actually welcome for this score), apart from an album version of a track and an end credits suite. Hard to tell from the clip if it is simply an edit of tracks or if it is original material. The gramophone source music was also on the footwarmer, but this appears to be a little longer, and perhaps it will be in standard sound quality and without the "aged effect" the film/footwarmer had. I honestly always loved the album presentation (it was a good representation of the score), but I am still glad to finally get this. Always wanted the footwarmer in lossless quality, so this official release can put it to rest. I hope more people will discover this score.

Safety Not Guaranteed is not competent?

Kinda funny they chose not to announce it with the JJ announcement, but waited until 4 hours later for whatever reason. Heh heh. He'll receive a note from Williams soon. "JJ Angel Babycakes, so glad to have you back"

Samples: http://www.lalalandrecords.com/Site/ET.html http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-02_FFH_ETA.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-05_ETNH.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-09_ETP.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-14_TMOH.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-16_SFET.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/1-21_TRABC.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/2-03_ETAM.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/2-05_F.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/2-09_TETA.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/2-12_MET_A_.mp3 http://johndadlez.com/MP3/ET/2-20_EC_A_.mp3

I agree, the Petticoat tracking works well there indeed. But there's no reason to include that on CD.

Availability date: 10/5/2017 I don't think it's convenient that it will be available 2 weeks after USA.