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I know I said I gave up with this thread, but, I've got to say @Mattris, your above post is your crowning achievement. You may now retire knowing you can never top it. Don't try, please don't.

I don't know what's longer. The post on this page or the distance Count Dooku parked his ship from the arena.

I like how Tchaikovsky is literally just credited with his last name lmao They should start doing that with Star Wars spinoffs and “Williams”

Ah, well Thomas Newman can be divisive!

Apparently Alan Lee is releasing The Hobbit Sketchbook slated for late 2019. More LotR and the Hobbit art is never bad!

It's sad to think he actually took the time to copy and paste all those quotes for them to be ultimately useless. Who gives a flying fig what people are saying in the comments of Variety, let alone the comments made on this humble forum?

I like TFA. Exceptionally strong, not only Jedi Steps with its striking new melodic material, but also the concise, engaging way the themes of the score are presented afterwards. Good stuff all around.

Seven Years in Tibet. This is sooooo beautiful. I adore this score.

They will accept all of that, but only after March 29, 2019.

John Williams is the best composer currently working.

If shitposting starts happening in the main Episode IX thread I'll just move it here

You were banished because you were clumsy?

1:40 = chills There are so many moments in this score where Williams channels a more unadulterated vein of high fantasy that you don't really hear often from his pen. Probably because these bigger pictures usually encourage him to be rooted in more traditional, or even conservative symphonic film conventions (think HP1 vs. HP3). I still think this is one his career highs:

But since SW is not only action music i would have been very interested what he came up with thematically and idiomatically for the broader canvas. Certainly not those half-assed brass triplets and one-finger piano tunes.

Wrong. The worst thing that happened to Disney was the millions of children, including myself who misread the logo and thought it was "Disnep".

So I made the mistake of opening this thread only to see the spam posted above. I regret everything.

I thought it would be helpful to group all of John Williams' film scores by the studio that owns the rights. It helps to figure out what might be coming out by a label if they release some clues, etc. Beyond that, it's just kind of interesting to see what studios John has worked the most and least for. And which studios have been the best and worst at licensing their properties out to the specialty labels. This is basically an updated version of this original post here. Bold = has not been expanded in the modern era strikethrough = has been expanded in the modern era British Lion Film Corporation 1970 Jane Eyre (2023 Quartet) Disney 20th Century Studios 1962 Bachelor Flat (Intrada 2008) 1965 John Goldfarb, Please Come Home (FSM 2001) 1966 How To Steal A Million (Intrada 2008) 1967 A Guide For The Married Man (FSM 2000) 1967 Valley of the Dolls 1972 The Poseidon Adventure (La-La Land 2019) 1973 The Paper Chase (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) 1973 Cinderella Liberty (Intrada 2008 release is not expanded) 1974 Conrack (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) 1974 The Towering Inferno (La-La Land 2019) 1978 The Fury (La-La Land 2013) 1982 Monsignor (Intrada 2019) 1986 SpaceCamp (Intrada 2022) 1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015) 1992 Home Alone 2 (La-la Land 2012) 2002 Minority Report (La-La Land 2019) 2013 The Book Thief 2017 The Post Lucasfilm 1977 Star Wars(1997 RCA release is not complete) 1980 The Empire Strikes Back(1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) 1983 Return of the Jedi (1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) 1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete) 1999 The Phantom Menace (2000 Ultimate Edition is not complete and has many other problems) 2002 Attack of the Clones 2005 Revenge of the Sith 2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull [Paramount still involved?] Hollywood Pictures 1995 Nixon Touchstone Pictures 2011 War Horse 2012 Lincoln Disney 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2016 The BFG 2017 Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2019 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker 2023 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Handmade Films 1972 Images (Prometheus 2007 release and 2021 Quartet release is not expanded) MGM 1966 Penelope (FSM 2004) 1969 Goodbye, Mr. Chips (FSM 2006) 1973 The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing (FSM 2002) 1990 Stanley & Iris (Varese 2017) United Artists 1967 Fitzwilly (Music Box Records 2013) 1971 Fiddler On The Roof (La La Land 2021) 1973 The Long Goodbye (Quartet 2012) 1973 Tom Sawyer (Quartet 2015) 1976 The Missouri Breaks (Kritzerland 2013) Paramount Allied Artists 1960 I Passed For White National General Pictures 1969 The Reivers Paramount 1977 Black Sunday (FSM 2010) 1995 Sabrina (La-La Land 2023) 1999 Angela's Ashes 2011 The Adventures of Tintin Dreamworks 1997 Amistad (La-La Land 2022) 1998 Saving Private Ryan (La-La Land 2018) 2002 Catch Me If You Can 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds (Intrada 2020) Sony Imperial Productions / American International Pictures 1958 Daddy-O Columbia Pictures 1960 Because They're Young 1963 Diamond Head (FSM 2006 release was not expanded) 1963 Gidget Goes To Rome 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind (La-La Land 2017/2022) 1998 Stepmom 2000 The Patriot 2005 Memoirs Of A Geisha [Dreamworks co-production] Tri-Star Pictures 1991 Hook (La-La Land 2023) 1997 Seven Years In Tibet Universal 1961 The Secret Ways 1965 The Killers 1966 The Rare Breed 1966 The Plainsman 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman) 1972 Pete 'n' Tillie (Varese 2017) 1974 The Sugarland Express 1974 Earthquake (La-La Land 2019) 1975 The Eiger Sanction (Intrada 2021) 1975 Jaws (Intrada 2015) 1976 Family Plot (Varese 2010) 1976 Midway (Varese 2011) 1978 Jaws 2 (Intrada 2015) 1979 Dracula (Varese 2018) 1979 1941 (La-La Land 2011/2015) 1981 Heartbeeps (Varese 2001) 1982 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (La-La Land 2017/2022) 1984 The River (Intrada 2020) 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July 1989 Always (La-La Land 2021) 1992 Far And Away (La-La Land 2020) 1993 Jurassic Park (La-La Land 2022) 1993 Schindler's List (La-La Land 2018) 1997 The Lost World (La-La Land 2023) 2005 Munich [Dreamworks co-production] 2022 The Fabelmans Universal Television 1972 The Screaming Woman Warner Brothers 1965 None But The Brave (FSM 2009) 1966 Not With My Wife You Don't! (FSM 2006) 1972 The Cowboys (Varese 2018) 1978 Superman: The Movie (La-La Land 2019) 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick (Perseverance 2012 release is not expanded) 1987 Empire Of The Sun (La-La Land 2014) 1988 The Accidental Tourist (FSM 2008 release is not expanded) 1990 Presumed Innocent (Varese 2022) 1991 JFK 1996 Sleepers 1997 Rosewood (La-La Land 2013) 2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence (La-La Land 2015/2021) 2001 Harry Potter 1 and the Sorcerer's Stone (2018 La-La Land) 2002 Harry Potter 2 and the Chamber of Secrets (2018 La-La Land) 2004 Harry Potter 3 and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2018 La-La Land) National Geographic Pictures 1969 Daddy's Gone A-Hunting

I'm not even entirely convinced he'll stick to the ten films thing. In fact my guess is he won't.

Reading this interminable thread, this is one of your arguments, Mattris, that sticks in my craw. The language is “shameful, demeaning” when it comes from LUcasfilm, but not if it comes from a vicious, vocal minority—who in your view is just “concerned/upset”. The double standard is breathtaking here. “People don’t appreciate being insulted,” you say, but those people are the ones hurling insults in the first place.

All I know is his Dracula is awesome, this rerecording coming next year will be the perfect gateway.

Full fat milk for me.

Geez, you guys find rationalizations for buying the same shit again every time, aren't you?

I doubt it would have been more interesting than his HARRY POTTER outings (which were equally disappointing), but I guess we'll never know.

Really? I think digital projection is downright terrible with awful image quality (at least in the theatres in my city). It's the main reason why I never go see movies in theatres. Nothing beats a German 35mm/70mm film projector and a fresh release print. For Drax & Dynamic: Ciné Trinitron

While it might have been Cuaron who demanded a different approach, Williams must have been very happy to oblige since he usually prefers to write something new rather than purely revisit the old with the sequels. Still he manages to retain the same HP world feel throughout even without constant quotes of the older material. And again in this case the end result is brilliant.

I laughed out loud at this one, hit close to home.

Thank you so much for all your efforts, Manikin. I'm sorry for all the hassle on your part.

This is my new YouTube channel. I'm working on updating it at the moment, and will be re-uploading most of my old videos very soon. It may take a while to duplicate everything though. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC35nijmGW_6McYTYvpvvZeA

Hey Everyone. I made this video talking about classical music study - it has many references to JW if anyone here was interested. Cheers, MB

What's left to improve? A Blu Ray 5.1 audio, of the complete score, would be nice.

Jesus freaking Christ Jay... talk about the thread police! (the quotes, not the new thread) Although it makes for easy reading....

There's nothing wrong with starting a new thread, but this is something that's been pointed out many times before in the 2 1/2 years it's been since this score came out.

Doesnt mean he's wrong!

Once again, it pays to not watch any of these movies, and thus have no idea what any excluded music is like, thus not give a shit and enjoy the album we got as is.

It really depends on where in London you want to get to, how much time you have and how much money you want to spend. If you are heading to Paddington or somewhere near there, the Heathrow Express is definitely the quickest because it takes about 16 or 17 minutes and does not stop anywhere else once it leaves the airport. However, it is much more expensive than using TfL Rail or the Tube (Piccadilly line) and, as mentioned previously, you cannot use Oyster or contactless cards to pay for journeys on the Heathrow Express. I have never used the Heathrow Express myself but a quick look at their website suggests that a peak single fare is an eye-watering £27. Unless time is a factor for you, the journey time to central London on the Piccadilly line is not exactly arduous (only 40 minutes to South Kensington with no changes, for example). Alternatively, TfL Rail services run the same route into London Paddington as the Heathrow Express but stop at six or seven stations, so the journey takes about 28 minutes. Again, that's hardly the Trans-Siberian express.

I've told you: it wasn't possible. I tried it, my friends tried it, work colleagues tried it. It could not be done. I've had a lot of counseling about this. Why did you have to bring it up. Why? Why?! 😭

Inky, in the age of the interweb thingy, ignorance is no excuse . 43 years ago, I'd never heard of a guy called John Williams. All I knew was that he had written some music that I liked. I did some research, and voilà, three years later, I had a burgeoning record collection. Same with Goldsmith, Barry, etc. It's not hard to go to YouTube, and type "James Bernard", or "Brian Easdale".

Now more seriously, the credits arrangement with the film insert.

Yea, it shouldn't be too hard to license that one out right now

You mean the guitar player?

Humor. Rather a difficult concept. Especially when it is as dry as mine. Shaken not stirred.

@BloodBoal comes back in a few months and only finds the ruins of JWFan...

I think TLJ is a clear winner at being the worst, with its disappointing build-up to the end credits.

The worst thing that happened to Disney is Walt Disney's own racist and sexist past. Star Wars is but a twinkle in their eye... @Mattris you're on the JWFan Forum, anyone here or your good self can search up the many threads praising film and score.

But @mstrox's point stands. Also, JJ Abrams is a dude who really seems to love what he does, but does anyone consider him an original storyteller? I'm not just talking on a superficial "Force Awakens apes the original" play-by-play list.

Why do you (and Drax) know so much about Cinemascope, Vistavision, Anamorphic and so on? Don't you prefer 4:3?