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  1. The big shark got my nod - the most restrained and dreamy end title JW has ever written. But how about The Towering Inferno, The Poseidon Adventure, Earthquake, Jaws 2, The Sugarland Express.........................? I guess I'm saying that we're spoilt for choice. Damien
  2. ...though not the two John Williams/Paul Williams songs, "Wednesday's Child" and "Nice to be Around", the latter of which was nominated for an Oscar along with the score. The omission of these vocal versions (which were on the original LP) makes an official CD release long overdue. The bootleg has only an instrumental version of one of the songs and completely misses out the other (heard over the opening titles). Funny that Marsha Mason looks pretty much the same in Cinderella Liberty as she does as Marty Crane's overbearing girlfriend in Frasier. Damien
  3. Fred, In the main title of the movie the lyrics start with the verse "Funny old world..." that jsawruk has kindly posted above. I think the song also appears over the end titles but cannot remember what lyrics were used. I saw this film a few years ago and like, wow man! This film is for squares! Being a JW fan I felt obliged to watch it to the end but the film is so lame it was almost unbearable to watch. In fact I'd go as far as to say that it is the worst John Williams-scored film I have ever seen. Maybe cool cats digged its zaniness in the 60s but it's all lost on me... A much better Williams/Mercer collaboration can be heard in Robert Altman's The Long Goodbye. If you want further info on any Johnny Mercer lyrics, check out www.johnnymercer.com. Damien :cool:
  4. One scene that gets me every time I see it is in Shane when Alan Ladd and Van Heflin team up to chop down the stubborn tree stump. If you've never seen it that probably doesn't sound like much to write home about, but anyone who has seen and appreciates this classic film will know what I mean (it was so good that Clint copied it in Pale Rider, although he replaced the tree with a rock). The scene is helped immensely by Victor Young's quite magnificent score, of course. I'm going to really stick my neck out here and say that his score for Shane is one of the best ever written for a western. It's about time Marco Polo or someone recorded the whole thing for my delectation. Damien - indulging in a rare moment of hyperbole :oops:
  5. David, Veuillez trouver les paroles ci-jointes: John Goldfarb, please come home! There's a lonesome feeling round the Pentagon, John Goldfarb, please come home! You're the kind of hero we depend upon, John Goldfarb, please come home! There's no-one as brave as you, But no-one's as long overdue, We somehow don't think it's right to take a U2 plane and then drop out of sight. [Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah] Haven't heard a word since can't remember when, John Goldfarb, please come home! Can it be that probably you're lost again? John Goldfarb, please come home! Whether you're in Mexico or Mandalay, get here quick - that is if you can find your way. [Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah] Come and lead a life of ease, hear us begging on our knees, Johnny Goldfarb, won't you please just come on home! [John Goldfarb, please come home...] Whether you're in Mexico or Mandalay, get here quick - that is if you can find your way, come and lead a life of ease, hear us begging on our knees, Johnny Goldfarb, won't you please just get on home! Personally, I like this score. Some seemed to be disappointed that the music for a 1965 film starring Richard Crenna wasn't quite as challenging as The Rite of Spring. Lighten up, people! Damien :yellow:
  6. I couldn't let this topic pass without mentioning one of the best, in John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct 13. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who has not seen the film so I will leave it at this: "I wanted a vanilla twist." Other good'uns are: - that guy's suffocation in the grain silo in Witness - John Connor's adoptive dad's 'milk carton kebab' in Terminator 2 - Shelley Winters's cardiac in The Poseidon Adventure - Scorpio's long range effort on the girl in the swimming pool in Dirty Harry, seen through the rifle's scope and backed by Lalo Schifrin's magnificent score. Has anyone mentioned Chrissie's death at the beginning of Jaws? And to counter this morbid-but-fun topic, it was nice to see that those miners were rescued safe and sound in PA. Damien
  7. Dexster, This had me bamboozled for a good while because the lyrics are so difficult to pick out (and nowhere else on the internet comes up with anything better than that they are in Latin - duh). However, if you can decipher the first word and have attended any Christian funerals you may realise where Horner got all his lyrics from. I think the first two lines are: recordare tunc dicturus omnes cuncta stricte discussurus These are all phrases taken from the sequence (sequentia) of the Latin requiem mass. Horner appears to have randomly selected phrases and, to make things more confusing, added a few words of his own such as 'in', 'est', etc. to fit the meter. It all sounds great but cannot be translated into English. Listen carefully a few times to 'Charging Fort Wagner' from Glory and you will begin to pick out several phrases from the requiem sequence, the first few verses of which I have listed below: dies irae, dies illa solvet saeclum in favilla teste David cum Sibylla. quantus tremor est futurus quando iudex est venturus cuncta stricte discussurus. tuba mirum spargens sonum per sepulcra regionum coget omnes ante thronum. mors stupebit et natura cum resurget creatura iudicanti responsura. liber scriptus proferetur in quo totum continetur unde mundus iudicetur. iudex ergo cum sedebit quidquid latet apparebit nil inultum remanebit. quid sum miser tunc dicturus quem patronum rogaturus cum vix iustus sit securus; rex tremendae maiestatis qui salvandos salvas gratis salva me fons pietatis. recordare Iesu pie quod sum causa tuae viae ne me perdas illa die. Most of the lyrics appear to come from the second and third verses. Damien - preferred supplier of Latin info to jwfan.net
  8. Stefan, while I am sure you are right that that is what Goldsmith intended the words to mean, they do not mean that because the grammar is incorrect. Permit me to explain. The words to Ave Satani are as follows: sanguis bibimus corpus edimus tolle corpus satani ave versus cristus ave satani The word 'sanguis' (blood) is in the nominative case denoting that it must be the subject of a sentence. Therefore the first sentence cannot mean "we drink blood"; to mean this it would have to read: sanguinem bibimus The second line is ok (we eat the body/flesh) because the word 'corpus' is a neuter noun for which the nominative (subject) and accusative (object) cases are identical. The verb 'tollere' can mean 'to raise up' in a literal sense but also in the sense of 'exalt' or 'elevate'. Because the word 'corpus' (body) can refer to a body living or dead, this part does make sense - at least until the word 'Satani' which is an invention. There was no word for Satan in classical Latin (for obvious reasons) so the word for Satan would have been invented for church use in mediaeval times and where it does appear, the genitive (possessive) case is not 'Satani'. The next line 'ave versus cristus' is all wrong. Even assuming that 'versus' is a corruption of the preposition 'adversus/adversum', to make grammatical sense the line would have to read: ave (ad)versum Christum (literally "hail the one who is against Christ") The final line (disregarding the fact that the word 'Satani' is still incorrect) would have to mean "hail (the son) of Satan". Whenever a genitive case appears on its own like this it almost always denotes a filial relationship. Damien :twisted:
  9. Marian, Could you be thinking of Mozart's Exsultate, Jubilate? If so this is based on a different text. However, you are right that other composers have set the whole of psalm 32(33) to music and have used the text more or less as it appears in the psalm. What impresses me about John Williams's work for Empire of the Sun is that by and large the lyrics make good grammatical sense, even though they are borrowed from a number of different sources. The lyrics Jerry Goldsmith came up with for The Omen's Ave Satani sound very scary but do not hold water at all grammatically (i.e. they cannot be translated into English and still make sense). I therefore award Johnny an A- for his Latin homework and Jerry an E. Damien :wink2:
  10. John Williams appears to have done a clever cut-and-paste job when coming up with the lyrics for Exsultate Justi - most of them appear in the Psalms or in some part of the Latin mass. I have not quite worked out if any of the lines are original Williams creations. The opening line Laudamus te can be heard in the text of the Gloria (interestingly JW's Gloria from the film Monsignor uses only the first line and stops just before we would hear 'Laudamus te') as can the line qui tollis peccata mundi. The other lyrics, as far as I can work out, are liberal borrowings from several of the psalms, especially psalm 32 (33). Check this out and see how many you can spot: http://orb.rhodes.edu/encyclop/religion/ha...salter/ps32.htm The line cantate domino canticum novum appears several times in the psalms, particularly numbers 95(96), 97(98) and 149. If anyone can find the source of some of the other lines, I would be interested to know, although I would guess they are adaptations of lines that appear in the psalms somewhere. I wonder whether Johnny ever sang in a choir or studied Latin at school? I do have a couple of quibbles with the lyrics on the page that Evan posted. I am sure that the choir sings laudatio rather than the made-up compound collaudatio, a word that does not exist in classical Latin. The same can be said of the word salvator, a cod-Latin word that looks good but was probably invented for church use. Here endeth the lesson. Damien
  11. I am glad you specifically mentioned JW's disaster movie end titles, Joe. The end titles for The Towering Inferno, The Poseidon Adventure and Earthquake are three of the best ever written (NB: the cue 'The City Sleeps' on the Earthquake CD is the re-recording of the end title music). To my mind, Johnny seems to reserve his best epilogues for 'group jeopardy' films; the end titles for Jaws, Jaws 2, Black Sunday and SpaceCamp are other prime examples. Others that I think deserve an honorary mention (apart from the obvious ones we all know so well) are Sugarland Express and JFK. Damien
  12. Morlock, William Alwyn wrote one of his best scores for the film The Crimson Pirate which starred Burt Lancaster. Although I do not yet have the CD, I have heard good things about the suite on The Film Music of William Alwyn: Volume 2, available on the Chandos label (CHAN 9959). The music is more in the vein of Captain Blood (pardon the pun) than Hook, but there ya go. Chandos have done a few excellent film music releases and I would heartily recommend the Malcolm Arnold and Georges Auric CDs too. Hoist the mainsail! Damien
  13. Gamecube, Check out Harlee's theme from The Towering Inferno (best heard in the end title cue 'The Architect's Dream') then listen to the main title from Earthquake. They could be sisters! Damien
  14. Mel Gibson was famous before Paul Hogan. Also remember Mel moved to Australia when he was 12. He was born in New York. Also remember that Russell Crowe is a Kiwi, though you'd never guess from his accent. He was born in Wellington. New Zealand - the place to live if you don't like snakes. Damien
  15. I thought I would share with you one of my (many) pet hates. Someone at work today had a mobile phone that played Harold Faltermeyer's Axel F theme tune from Beverly Hills Cop. She was away from her desk so we all had to listen to this mid-80's synth classic ad infinitum. What annoyed me was not the music itself (hec, if you must have a mobile phone, at least have a ring tone from the silver screen) but the fact that the penultimate note was clearly a semitone sharp. Moreover, a straw poll among my work colleagues suggested that the tempo was all wrong too. Egad! Where do they find these morons to transcribe the classics for mobile phone use? Do they hear things differently from the rest of us? Do they have to change the notes for some reason to avoid re-use fees? I am yet to hear Johnny's music butchered in this way but fear it is only a matter of time. To paraphrase Homer Simpson, Harold Faltermeyer must be rolling in his grave! Damien :evil:
  16. Dang, Joe, I knew I'd heard the name David Vincent somewhere before! Of course, The Invaders! A Quinn Martin production! Spooky theme tune by Dominic "Color of Night" Frontiere! Damien - searching for a short cut he never found.
  17. Not quite right, Ricard, it was July 1998 that JW conducted the LSO at the Barbican in two concerts, the second of which included his tuba concerto. He also gave concerts with the LSO in 1996 at the same venue. Miz, As JW is perhaps most likely to give UK concerts with the LSO, I suggest your joining their mailing list at www.lso.co.uk. That way you also get to hear about other great concerts well in advance. Damien
  18. A football fan decides to travel to the World Cup final in Yokohama to experience the tournament at first hand. Long ago having given up all hope of getting a ticket for the game, he goes to the stadium before the match to mill with the crowds and soak up the pre-match atmosphere. To his amazement, a man approaches him clutching a spare ticket for one of the best seats in the ground. "Do you want this spare ticket, mate?" he asks. "You can have it for free, as long as you don't mind sitting next to me." Taken aback by the man's generosity and his own incredible good fortune, the football fan asks how come the man is giving away a ticket for the World Cup final. The man replies: "I bought the ticket six months ago for my dear late wife. We travelled together to every World Cup since 1974 and always made sure we got the best seats for the final. This would have been our eighth World Cup final together." "I'm so sorry, man", says the football fan, "I feel really guilty about accepting this now. Couldn't you have asked one of your friends or relatives to go with you to the match?" "I did," answered the man, "but they're all at the funeral."
  19. Superman must have been the first or second film I ever saw on the big screen when I was very young. My Dad took me and my brother to see it in a cinema that is now a McDonald's. :? Does anyone remember those Superman cards with bubble gum that you could get at the time? Each card showed a scene from the film with a caption underneath. All I can remember is my brother and I, who had learned all the captions off by heart, calling them out during the film as the relevant scenes appeared! That must have pissed off the rest of the audience, but I don't remember us being ejected for it. The only two captions I can remember now are "A world torn asunder" (presumably because I thought 'asunder' was a funny word) and also "Superman pays a call on Lois Lane". We all thought this one was hilarious. Why? Well to this day I cannot watch that scene in the penthouse without expecting Lois Lane to be soaked with urine at any moment. Damien
  20. Brandon, I'd have to agree with you (in fact with just about everything you've said). May God have mercy on my soul! By the way, of the two most exciting games of football I have ever been to, one finished 6-4 while the other was a 0-0 draw that went to extra time and a penalty shootout. Forget nail-biting, I nearly bit through my freakin' hands. Ricard, I know this thread is slightly off topic but is it worth making it a 'sticky' until the end of the World Cup? Damien - pushing his luck
  21. El Salvador v Honduras, June 1969, right? The USA v Mexico game (or the 'Rio Grande derby' as I have taken the liberty of christening it) on Monday has potential. Damien - hoping 'keeper Jose Luis Chilavert knocks one in the onion bag against the Germans tomorrow
  22. I'm rather partial to the love theme from Earthquake. Is that such a crime? Top jazz pianist Clare Fischer played on the soundtrack, don'tcha know. Damien :oops:
  23. Joe, The first World Cup was in Uruguay in 1930 and was won by the hosts (believe it or not the US reached the semi-finals that year). It is held every four years. There are now 32 countries in the finals (co-hosted this time by South Korea and Japan) from all five continents. The first round of games is divided into 8 groups of 4 teams each. Each group has a seeded team (i.e. a 'good' team that is expected to do well such as France, Portugal, Brazil, etc.) and each of the teams plays each other once. 3 points are awarded for a win, 1 point for a draw (or 'tie', as you put it) and zilch if you lose. The top two teams (i.e. 16 teams in total) from each group then progress to the knock-out stage where a tie is impossible. If a game ends in a tie after 90 minutes, extra time is played (30 minutes). If the game is still a tie there is a penalty shoot-out with each team taking 5 penalties each. If it is still a tie it goes to sudden death penalties (i.e. 1 penalty each until someone misses). England, Italy and the Netherlands are experts at losing in heartbreaking penalty shootouts! Although the USA tied with South Korea 1-1 it was an excellent performance (with a slice of luck) and gives them a real chance of progressing to the knockout stage. The standings in their group are as follows: SOUTH KOREA - 4 points USA - 4 points PORTUGAL - 3 points POLAND - 0 points There are two games to play in this group, USA v Poland and South Korea v Portugal. USA need one point to progress so need to draw with (or beat) Poland. I know you have professed that you are not interested in football and it would be arrogant of me to try to persuade you otherwise. However, the USA's 3-2 victory against Portugal was one of the great shocks in World Cup history (I am sure Merkel would agree) and it is a shame that it barely got a mention in the US press. Damien - who put money on Slovenia to reach the quarter-finals
  24. Merkel, Nice to see that I am not the only one with World Cup fever at the moment! I thought Portugal were impressive, although it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Poland had not had that goal disallowed for a 'foul' on Vitor Baia when the score was still 1-0. Baia was embarrassed at dropping the ball so took a dive! The US is a lot better team than some people give them credit for (any team would be happy to hold the hosts 1-1). Does anyone else think that Clint Mathis (US goalscorer against South Korea) looks like Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver with his new haircut? I reckon Portugal and U.S.A. will qualify from that group. I think South Korea may live to regret that penalty miss. Brandon, much as I would have liked to see the Netherlands in the World Cup, they had their chance and blew it. They were in a difficult qualifying group (with Portugal and Ireland) and failed to beat Ireland in two games. Poor France. :twisted:
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