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  1. Yeah, maybe. Or the length of time between the films could be a little shorter. In any case, if I remember correctly, Anakin has already been having these dreams before the start of ROTS.
  2. Agreed. In fact, I think that trilogy would have been stronger with even more focus on Anakin's fear of losing the people he loves. Really, the "gotta save Padme" thing should have been set up in AOTC, with Anakin having his first nightmare about her near the end of that film. Shmi's death only becomes an important plot point once you've seen ROTS...starting the Padme nightmares at the end of the same film would have set up the connection in a much clearer and more poignant way. (Not to mention the cool cliffhanger vibe...)
  3. Wow, I never made that connection, but there definitely is some shared intervallic DNA. No wonder I like both so much...
  4. I don't think I've ever really noticed JP sounding any better in the film than on album - I think the OST mix sounds pretty fantastic - but ESB is a very different case. The SE releases were not handled with the technical finesse they would have received today. I'm probably telling you stuff you already know, but the ESB SE album actually jumps back and forth between material based on Eric Tomlinson's original film mixes and new (at the time) remixes by Brian Risner. The Imperial March is one of the remixes. If I were to make a sweeping generalization, the biggest difference film-vs-album difference in a recording's sound is going to be the reverb. Film mixes are often relatively dry...not much reverberation. Album mixes invariably feature more reverb, whether introduced artificially or by introducing more of the room sound from more distant mics into the mix. Empire is pretty dry on the SE album, but if anything the film sounds dryer to me. If less reverb tends to be appealing to you, I'd guess you're going to tend to prefer film mixes.
  5. It's identical to the choral part at the end of the track "The Three Broomsticks" (AKA "Brief Snow Scene"). It's heard that way in the film...my assumption has always been that the choir was recorded separately, and that's what we're hearing.
  6. That one's always been really puzzling to me. The contrast you mentioned is just sublime!
  7. Yep. Rides, buildings, layout, landscaping, infrastructure...those take a lot of time and money to change, and the process is usually disruptive to the visitors' experience. Not so for changing a background music loop. These can and do change over the years. Even the most venerable, fundamentally unchanged area of Disneyland - Main Street - doesn't have the same loop it had just 10 years ago...and I don't believe the park opened with the loop before that, either. Who knows what Galaxy's Edge will sound like in a year, not to mention a decade or three.
  8. Does it still sound "off" to you if you listen to it on other equipment? I'm wondering if you've simply gotten used to the timing of the edit. In my experience, these sorts of segues sound more and more natural the more you listen to them.
  9. If you choose to create something for the general public, of course you'll never please everyone across the board, but there are plenty of films that haven't had this particular issue. Not playing to racial stereotypes isn't that hard. How do we gauge people's reaction? By listening to them. Same as anything else. You listen, you try to put yourself in their shoes as best you can, and you remind yourself that we all view the world from an incomplete and often distorted perspective. It's not tiptoeing; it's just caring about how your choices affect other people. These questions are hard. I think grappling with them is important. I also think the world needs a modern MM-produced Star Wars box set. I think we've both said our piece; shall we return to that discussion?
  10. Well there's an overreaction if I ever saw one. Yes, those kids are suffering from racial bias, because it's a scientifically established fact that most people do. It's often subtle, unintentional, and not something we have conscious awareness of, but it shows up in measurable ways. Generally speaking, it's cool if we find ways to reduce that, rather than increase it. But the perspective you're arguing against - that these nefarious filmmakers have singlehandedly ruined the lives of generations across the globe through this one film - is nowhere to be seen in this thread. Life isn't so black-and-white. These filmmakers surely meant well overall, and there's plenty in the film to enjoy. That doesn't preclude us from disagreeing with the social wrongs you yourself admit are also present. People aren't cleanly divided into completely non-racist paragons and awful racist bigots. Generally good people do bad shit sometimes. In the grand scheme of things, making a film that has the potential for contributing a bit to existing biases is far from the worst thing a person could do. But it still can cause some hurt. This isn't just retrospective, either. There was significant contemporary consternation from a lot of Indian people when this film was released. When people get hurt, it seems to me like the first thing you do is listen and try to understand their perspective.
  11. It's a fictional portrayal of a culture that never existed at any time. The wildly inaccurate portrayal of the Thugs isn't the only problem. The dinner scene is pretty cringe-worthy, too. And not because I'm grossed out, but because it's like, "Haha, look, Indians eat monkey brains and big-ass beetles, aren't they weird." That's the tone that comes across. I'm aware of some assertions that it was meant to be ironic - that they were only serving that food to make fun of their visitors' misconceptions - but I'm not entirely convinced that was the intention, nor do I think the final cut of the film reads that way at all. The villagers are certainly a lot more sympathetic, but they're just in the film briefly to set up the main adventure. I don't think they're the average moviegoer's main memory of the Indian people in the film. The big heroes are Indy and the British colonialists who save the day. Yikes. It's all well and good to write fiction, but a lot of people don't like being on the receiving end of that sort of othering, especially when it inflames existing stereotypes and injustices. Fiction helps subtly shape real-world attitudes. No one's going to start lowering people into pits of lava after watching a film like this because it's obviously wrong, but we've all got at least some degree of subconscious racial bias, and this sort of thing can subtly strengthen that, especially in the absence of substantive exposure to the culture being fictionalized. Anyway, yes, I believe the most recent information we have is that the full original recording of that suite is lost, @crumbs. It's too bad. I'd really like the whole thing to be on a future release.
  12. Do you not find that the film's most notable portrayals of Indian culture, cuisine, and religious practices are inaccurate and insulting? When you've got a group of people who've often been discriminated against or reduced to stereotypes, it seems pretty unhelpful to build your film around making them the cruel, grotesque "other." (This is where some people bring up the Nazis. But people chose - choose - to become part of that group, whose ideology is the very definition of grotesque cruelty.)
  13. As I recall, the post simply mentioned TOD having racial problems, which is true...or are you referring to another post?
  14. Sarcasm aside, obviously someone can see someone of a different race/gender/orientation/etc. and strongly empathize with them. We are all just people. That being said, if the vast majority of entertainment media around me had never featured many (or sometimes any) instances of sympathetic, capable characters who happened to be white/male/hetero/etc. like me, I can see how that would start to feel like something was wrong systemically, like there was a collective implication (even if completely inadvertent) that people who shared many of my traits were somehow "less than." Especially if in the real world I regularly experienced disrespectful behavior on the basis of those traits - or were at increased risk for violence because of them.
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