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  1. Yeah, it was. It's so barely audible though that I doubt most people hear it in the first place... kind of a weird choice.
  2. Oh, but it is! (Unless you meant as originally written.)
  3. Everyone calls it the Pettigrew motif because that's what it was edited to be (it's even sloppily applied when he turns back into a rat near the end). I think Williams intended for it to be more representative of danger, or evil usage of magic. It's like a sinister version of the Nimbus 2000 theme.
  4. Yeah, I'm using the sheets. I can't read music but the audio matches up to V1; in V2, the woodwinds bleed into the harpsichord, and the harpsichord doesn't have accompanying tremolos.
  5. It wasn't that complicated, it was just meant for the trailer. I get the impression that Williams really liked working on the Potter movies and was willing to go that extra mile; he probably would have written original music for a CoS trailer too if he hadn't been so busy that year. Fun fact, the pre-Double Trouble music in the trailer was actually written by Brand X Music (Tom Gire and John Sponsler) but was still recorded with DT and conducted by Williams.
  6. You're thinking of John Williams. https://www.finalemusic.com/blog/may-the-fourth-spotlight-on-joann-kane-music/ Maybe there's some small adjustment here and there by the time his sketches are sent to the scoring stage, but I bet you that no one wants to be the guy who bungles up a John Williams cue, or surprises him when he gets up to the conductor's stand. Williams knows exactly what he wants in terms of sound and orchestration and no one is going to stand in his way. That "imitation sound" could be him trying to replicate a style from many years ago that he's sort of gotten past in his everyday writing.
  7. Well I think the point is that the score is supposed to sound like a major blockbuster. Rogue Nation was envisioned as sort of a "spiritual successor" to the original television show and took more inspiration from that than the previous Cruise films. The music reflected that choice. I haven't seen Fallout but the trailers make it look like it's trying to be a blockbuster "of its time" and have the feel of what you would expect a 2018 action movie to be.
  8. McQuarrie says plainly that he wanted a score of "simplicity and minimalism" for Rogue Nation in the liner notes of that soundtrack. Word on the street is that Tom Cruise wasn't very enthusiastic about the demo cues he was hearing in that vein, and kept asking for more assertion and presence from the underscore, so Kraemer of course followed those instructions. So now McQuarrie wasn't getting the sort of music he wanted. Not only that but the movie's release date was moved to six months earlier, which meant that there was virtually no time for McQuarrie to really check out what each cue was going to sound like. Kraemer tried to be accommodating by writing multiple versions/ideas for cues and give him some options but that's still not the most ideal thing in the world. In February when the Lorne Balfe rumors were starting to go around, Kraemer said on Twitter that he hadn't been contacted at all by McQuarrie about MI6 (and then a day later said, "okay, I got an email just now, it's a 'no'"). It seems like McQuarrie's decision wasn't necessarily about the quality of the finished score but more the very unsatisfying scoring process. I guess he wanted a fresh start without all the baggage of what happened on the last movie, or worse, a repeat. Kraemer also decided to "like" a tweet that was highly critical of McQuarrie for the whole situation, so you can probably surmise how well their relationship is doing. It's not as if Kraemer would refuse to do a Nolan-type score either - he's said pretty bluntly that if he were hired and asked to do that, if push came to shove, he'd do it if it's what he was being asked to do.
  9. This is the first time I'm hearing of this; I always sort of assumed that Elfman had some say in the matter and was being a hardass about things (as he'd been in the past) since it was his music being used presumably without any input from him. You mean to say that Sony read Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack sales, didn't like the numbers, and bailed out on their own blockbuster's soundtrack? That seems weird.
  10. I believe Goldenthal put together a full program for official release before the whole idea was scrapped by WB. Could very well just be a copy of that.
  11. About a year later (Oct. 2016) MV gave an un-optimistic update on that. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=101294&archive=0
  12. It gets complicated when you take into consideration that, for any given cue, any three of those sources might have passages edited out from the whole. So if the OST track has portions ABC, the FYC might have AC, and the film could have ACD. These edits can be really small too. That might be more detail than most people are interested in though.
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