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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from gwscores in Jaws and Rite of Spring   
    Many people have scoffed at the suggestion that Jaws was inspired by The Rite of Spring. I was one of them... until I actually listened closely.
    These two main themes are pretty much based on the same dissonant chord.
    Pianists, play the following-
    RH: Eb7 chord in 1st inversion, play it in the middle C octave
    LH: E note, play it two octaves below
    This is the cell that is prominent through much of Rite. Play it quickly and repeatedly with the ragged accents of Danses des Adolescentes and you'll hear it.
    Now for Jaws... instead of repeating that chord over and over again, transpose both hands up a half step so that the RH plays an E7 chord 1st inv and the LH plays an F. Go back and forth between these two chords quickly and staccato, just like you were playing the Jaws theme.
    There you go.
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    Eric_JWFAN reacted to Quintus in Hans Zimmer's DUNKIRK   
    I think Katherine got more out of this film than I did.
     
     
    This was an obvious commentary on current immigration parallels, succinctly handled by Nolan.
     
     
    I disagree. There's a stark contrast in visual ID between these two films, and the silent vacuum of space was a far better pairing with its own encircling score than what Zimmer put against Dunkirk, which was already a very loud soundscape to begin with. Gravity, in my view, was more successful in melding the separate sound design elements together in a way which felt homogeneous; compared to Dunkirk, which ended up sounding like a blaring contest, with Zimmer determined to win.
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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from hornist in Hans Zimmer's DUNKIRK   
    I know I'm late to the thread, but I thought the movie was disappointing and the score was Zimmer at his absolute laziest. I keep holding out hope that he'll start making some sort of effort to compose real music, but I guess he has no reason to at this point. And frankly I don't think he's even comfortable with the idea anymore. 
     
    The direction of film music continues to go downhill, and Zimmer (and his success among the masses) is a big reason why. Yeah you kids get off my lawn.. 
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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from TheUlyssesian in Hans Zimmer's DUNKIRK   
    I know I'm late to the thread, but I thought the movie was disappointing and the score was Zimmer at his absolute laziest. I keep holding out hope that he'll start making some sort of effort to compose real music, but I guess he has no reason to at this point. And frankly I don't think he's even comfortable with the idea anymore. 
     
    The direction of film music continues to go downhill, and Zimmer (and his success among the masses) is a big reason why. Yeah you kids get off my lawn.. 
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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from Holko in Hans Zimmer's DUNKIRK   
    I know I'm late to the thread, but I thought the movie was disappointing and the score was Zimmer at his absolute laziest. I keep holding out hope that he'll start making some sort of effort to compose real music, but I guess he has no reason to at this point. And frankly I don't think he's even comfortable with the idea anymore. 
     
    The direction of film music continues to go downhill, and Zimmer (and his success among the masses) is a big reason why. Yeah you kids get off my lawn.. 
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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from Hlao-roo in Brian Eno Hates John Williams   
    Sorry, didn't mean to be "outrageous". :-) But I do believe in what I said, about the chops. It's not elitism. It's just knowing what takes enormous skill, and what doesn't. There's nothing wrong with Eno's music, it possesses some great moments, really cool atmospheres, sonic colors etc and I can enjoy it for what it is. But the technical chops required to write it is WAY below what is demanded in Williams' music. I mean it's not even close. It's funny you say "elitism" because Eno in that clip comes across as pretty darn elitist, while Williams has always publicly shown the highest regard for even the most questionable talents, graciously giving really nice compliments to extremely inferior composers, just to be nice.
    But back to the point, okay he probably did choose his style because he liked it and not because he tried/failed at symphonic composing. But from my experience, most of the minimalist composers I've met entered that genre because it was easier to learn, master, and (hopefully this won't sound offensive) "fake" their way through. Eno's very good at what he does, but generally speaking you can fake your way through an ambient album. You can't fake your way writing for a 70 piece orchestra, especially with Williams' musical language.
    Again not trying to be "outrageous", but when I hear someone of Eno's expertise say that Williams has "ruined many great films", that'll get a rise out of people. After all, this is a John Williams site.
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    Eric_JWFAN got a reaction from Ren in Man Of Steel (2013 Superman reboot directed by Zack Snyder)   
    If there was any doubt that Zimmer is the most overrated composer of the last quarter century, this score cements it.



    A superhero flick like Superman is every film composer's dream to tackle, that rare opportunity for a composer to pull out all the stops, be CREATIVE, use memorable leitmotifs, utilize the symphonic palette and all its majestic offerings to the absolute fullest.... and what do we get? A shockingly minimalistic soundtrack with nothing but ambient sounds and extremely long sustained notes (which is what you do when you really don't know how to write for the orchestra). And of course it has lots of Zimmer's trademark "lets beat these giant drums as loud as humanly f'ing possible".



    What a disappointment. Even more disappointing is how many people in the world think this guy is a great composer.



    How sad would it be if this wins the Academy Award 35 years after Williams' masterpiece inexplicably didn't?
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