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Breaking News: Company who put zero effort into content of box set also put zero effort into packaging of box set.
 

 

David Lynch finally gave a few quotes about taking the role
 
 

Somebody sent me the box pics of this ridiculously over priced set. It's just bloody thin slip cover holding the cds. Talk about being cheap!
 
 

Okay, then let me amend this:
I very likely will, but I don't want to. For a score like this that doesn't feel that special/important in the grand scheme, and that I had no connection whatsoever to or even knowledge of before this single listen, I'd be more happy with a cheaper digital purchase than a more expensive physical just to have something on my shelf I never want to look at again (as opposed to say LLL or Quartet releases with competent design which I do take off the shelf and look at and reread sometimes when also listening), but if the business is stupid then the business is stupid, if it's gotta be the CD then that's that.

Yeah sure he'll totally start paying more attention if I just tell him to. They totally won't deny the existence of anything like they did with Sleepy Hollow.
 
Informing people who read the thread a little about the set's sound maybe?

Aaand now I listened to the main program. And it's awesome. A lot of it is very Horner-like, a mix of Aliens, Sleepers, 90s Hornerisms, but infused with a little Elfman crazyness and broken up by Carpenteresque segments. Interesting how the score seems to be sympathetic to the alien for a lot of the score! Love the gentleness early on, there's some good tension, and fun chaos by the end.
 
And now of course comes the worst part: I wanna support such Young expansions, I want to read the booklet, but I don't want to support Intrada's lazyness in their art and mastering - didn't notice any bad editing mistakes but once again Doug seems to have just taken a good enough premixed source and EQd it a bit, not caring that raising the treble boosts the hiss as well as the percussion. It's very audible in quieter sections, and obviously dialed up and down at the start and end of tracks. The program would need some work, combinations, order changes, maybe alt swaps, making up better titles than these barebones utilitarian cue titles - these belong in the booklet with the slates dammit! The biggest problem with having to pirate a release to check it out is that now I have the music, same as if I'd have ripped it, now I'd just be paying for an overpriced piece of plastic and ugly paper. Ugh. What are the chances that this'll be sold digitally? But then they of course wouldn't include the goddamn booklet.

I got far more interested in checking out this release from a pirated rip than from the intrada store with its zero samples and awful art, or this minute of dvdrip cut to some random tension. The original main title is awesome!

I finally started preparing for making an edit from the episode albums plus the OST... and then stopped a couple episodes in.
There would definitely be fat to trim, but there's also just way too much good and great stuff to keep, the edit would be at least 4-6 hours long, which I'd never listen to in one sitting. Also, the score is written to be very episodic, would get repetitive mushed together and wouldn't have that much of a satisfying arc for all the threads, and I came to the conclusion that it just works perfectly if I instead dedicate a week to listen to an episode a day, check in daily to get a big threatening Sauron ostinato and planted Galadriels, some mystery, some tension, some action material, get to see how the Khazad-Dum/Númenor/Harfoot (pick 2) -related themes are doing this episode, be reminded of the blandest theme (Bronwin/Arondir), then wrap up nicely at the end.
Or the other solution would be to edit it down very severely to the highest of highlights... which has also already been done with the OST.
 
 
It's really really nice to have the option for both officially and immediately. Thank fuck for Bear!

I think they should go digital. A 20-disc box set will be expensive and niche and cause all sorts of complications with fitting tracks on and the inevitable scratched CD in the process.

I kind of get it. It shows you that Sallah and Marcus are back, shows you the girl, shows you the nazi villain. No more corners left, the essentials that everyone going in blind knows will be in there are covered. Donovan's of not that much interest until the surprise twist that he's with the nazis, the poster doesn't give away his centralness.

In my Bond rewatches, when I got to Octopussy, I definitely thought "Seriously, people say Temple of Doom is racist?"

In my Bond rewatches, when I got to Octopussy, I definitely thought "Seriously, people say Temple of Doom is racist?"

In my Bond rewatches, when I got to Octopussy, I definitely thought "Seriously, people say Temple of Doom is racist?"

In my Bond rewatches, when I got to Octopussy, I definitely thought "Seriously, people say Temple of Doom is racist?"

Still not very good, too much empty space and the text is very crowded down there. Found this online, much better:

Indeed. I know certainly there are Indians who may not have appreciated the portrayal (notably the Indian government at the time), and, well, fair enough. But frankly, most of the people I've seen take great offence at this film haven't been Indians, but rather the usual sort who are eager to take offence on behalf of someone else.
 
I think it's just as silly to expect that Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom be a complete, and accurate portrayal of Indians as it is to expect The Godfather to be a complete and accurate portrayal of Italians. I grew up watching wuxia films but I never thought every Chinese person was a martial arts expert who spent their days fighting. 
 
The great Amrish Puri (Mola Ram), put it best...
 
"It's based on an ancient cult that existed in India and was recreated like a fantasy. If you recall those imaginary places like Pankot Palace, starting with Shanghai, where the plane breaks down and the passengers use a raft to jump over it, slide down a hill and reach India, can this ever happen? But fantasies are fantasies, like our Panchatantra and folklore. I know we are sensitive about our cultural identity, but we do this to ourselves in our own films. It's only when some foreign directors do it that we start cribbing."
 

In my Bond rewatches, when I got to Octopussy, I definitely thought "Seriously, people say Temple of Doom is racist?"

Agreed. But some seem to bristle at any depiction of a culture that doesn't present it 100% accurately or in the best possible light. And poking any fun at them is, certainly, a big no-no today.
 
Personally, I don't look to movies for an accurate depiction of anything—or to teach me about anything. License is taken all the time to augment their effect—be it dramatic, comedic, or whatever.
 
For the record, as a kid I didn't come away from TOD thinking that Indians ate "eyeball soup," "Snake Surprise," or "chilled monkey brains" as part of their diet... It was an obviously broad attempt at humour.
 
But whether or not you find it "funny" is of course a matter of personal opinion.

I kind of get it. It shows you that Sallah and Marcus are back, shows you the girl, shows you the nazi villain. No more corners left, the essentials that everyone going in blind knows will be in there are covered. Donovan's of not that much interest until the surprise twist that he's with the nazis, the poster doesn't give away his centralness.

Cool, they're remembering that they have to sell their product somehow!

Ok. Even then, this holy americana sound is mostly really not my thing.