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  1. without a 5.1 mix that's not drowned in sound effects, that's just impossible to do properly. It's the same thing though, any time the synth choir plays mostly on its own there's very little else playing along.
  2. Yeah it's just the center channel of the 5.1 mix (DTS CD and SACD). Play a cue like Southampton like that and most of it is snare drum, bell and occasionally woodwinds for the choir parts.
  3. If you used a fan-made mix of Rose without the other elements, it was likely from a source of mine. Years ago I made a breakdown of the OST and provided the various channel configurations as separate albums - a 'surround channel' album, a 'center channel' album, etc. Been at this a while. If you're willing, I'd like to hear what you did with "Murdoch" since mine was a mix of the film edit and the bass line from the film stem, since it was thankfully just the ending that I needed and that's what the film stem had free of other elements.
  4. For the custom I did, I put the bass back into "Take Her to sea", but without the film edit shortening the passage, and used the pipe-less version of "Unable to Stay" while fixing (as best I could) the awkward edit in the left-right bouncing rhythm effect. I definitely prefer the film mix of "Rose" to all the versions released of that cue.
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    Horner's House of Cards

    While Herman kept things vague, it was surprising what he had to say about Horner's time on the film.
  6. Exactly. It's not worth it to talk about a score deemed impossible to expand for 20 years? Obviously you're talking about the edits of a certain final fantastical shrine like place....though personally I think the whole idea of recreating the film edits are beyond awful as a listening experience for the majority of the score. But I do indeed think it's not a case of different recordings but merely mixing for different uses, such as dialing out synths for the film edit discussed a while ago (the diamond / ' We are Royalty Rose' scene). Bump up the strings in one passage, mute the tuba in another, take out the snare drums every other bar, whatever the case might be. The performances would be the same, but 'sound' different because of the mixer fudging around with it. I'd have to get back to you on the similarities between the two versions. I don't have it on hand to compare at the moment.
  7. Everything you're describing is mixing. The mixer could do that easily to craft the music around the needs of the surrounding sound effects and dialogue. d No one has, at least on here or FSM, commented on the specifics of the album like that (Promenade / Butterfly comb) We attempted to interview them about it ala JWFAN but never replied as far as I know.
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    Horner's House of Cards

    Unrelated but Thor, did you ever read our interview with Striped Pyjamas director Mark Herman: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/exclusive-interview-mark-herman-boy-striped-pajamas/ It's quite a good insight into the making of the score.
  9. One could say the same about the alternate "Death of Titanic", but I don't think it's necessarily a different recording as in different performance, but rather just different mixing. I see the themes as follows: "Tragedy": Main Title / A Promise Kept (film version) "Main Theme" / the "TITANIC" theme: To The Keldysh / Relics and Treasures / Southampton (strings) and subsequent cues of the grandeur of the ship I feel this theme (my favorite) is representative of two aspects: The main theme melody is more of Titanic itself, and the synth chorus in Southampton, Leaving Port and Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch are more of the excitement of the people aboard, especially Jack in the latter two cues. "Mystery": Rose Revealed / Distant Memories / My Drawing / An Ocean of Memories "Love Theme": First Sighting / Rose / The Portrait and subsequent cues of that nature "Ocean" or whatever name might fit for the darker, ominous music for the sea: 2 1/2 Miles Down / Rose's Suicide Attempt / Hymn To The Sea Also, 2 1/2 Miles Down is one of the most interesting and fascinating pieces of music Horner wrote for the film. I love it.
  10. You have that reversed. Fox was international for both films, Paramount was North America for both films. That's why Horner's score appears as it should over the Paramount logo.
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    Anyone else dig Horner's earring?

    He never dated Goldsmith's daughter. They were (according to her in that long defunct / canceled biography) acquaintances / sort-of friends who hung out occasionally because he knew who her father was and he was interested in one of her friends (if I'm remembering that story correctly)
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    Anyone else dig Horner's earring?

    He had been separated for quite a number of years, so I don't think so.
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    Anyone else dig Horner's earring?

    I've not had any confirmation but I had always assumed his earring was worn in place of his wedding ring. After a point it went from an actual ring to a stud. Also he had a tattoo of a rope around his wrist.
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    Anyone else think James Horner is better than John Williams?

    Williams leaves me almost devoid of emotion more often than not. Complex, recognizable, but emotional? Not to me it isn't. To each their own.
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    Anyone else think James Horner is better than John Williams?

    It’s funny, because I’ve come to find over the last few years (sadly not first hand as I couldn’t meets him myself) that he and I shared a very similar personality and I despise arrogant people. It’s actually one word I would not use to describe him because a lot of what he had to say was born out of both a sense of keeping himself as vague and distant from others as possible, and being frustrated enough to just tell it like it is when having to talk about dealing with other people. He was not a social person and had trouble connecting to others, and as someone very much like that I could see where he came from. If you ever met me in person you would probably get a similar impression and I’m not a world famous composer. More than half the things people say about these guys in places like this goes far beyond “arrogant prick” but no one cares because no one here is a public figure. No anonymity for these guys whose work and sometimes lives are torn apart and dissected and bitched about online.
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