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      Donation time at JWFan   01/16/18

      Hello!

      For those who may not know, JWFan relies entirely on donations to keep running.  Donations pay for our server bills, as well as keeping our domain and Invision Powerboard fees.
      As an incentive to donate, I am offering a series of free CDS to anyone who donates over a certain amount!   Last time this was a modest success, where I raised $500 of our desired $1,000 and mailed out 3 free CDs to lucky JWFanners.  This time I'll be doing the raffling a littler different!   Our goal is $1000 once again, and I will have four tiers of free CDs you can win once again.  But this time, the more you donate, the more entries into each raffle you'll get!   Each $10 you donate gets your name put into the raffle mug once for the $10 pool, twice for the $20 pool, thrice for the $30 pool, and five times into the $50 pool.  Here is the list of CDs you can win - and I have more to add at a later time when I get a little more organized (I'll post what they are by Friday at the latest)   The $10 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you one ticket into this pool) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $250 donated Tyler Bates - God of War; Ascension (OST, La La Land Records) Danny Elfman - Planet of the Apes (OST, Sony) Danny Elfman - Taking Woodstock (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Identity Thief (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (OST) Michael Giacchino - Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (OST, Varese Sarabande) Dave Holmes & Various - Ocean's 11 (OST, WB Records) Joel McNeely & Various - Hollywood '94 (Varese Sarabande) Joe Kraemer - Jack Reacher (OST, La La Land Records) John Williams - Born on the Fourth of July (OST, MCA Records)   The $20 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you two ticket into this pool, must donate at least $20 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $500 donated John Barry - First Love (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - The Challenge (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - In Harm's Way (2009 Intrada edition) Jerry Goldsmith - The Red Pony (Varese) Alan Silvestri - Dutch (La La Land) Shirley Walker - Willard (La La Land) John Williams - Family Plot (Varese Sarabande) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $30 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you three ticket into this pool, must donate at least $30 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $750 donated James Horner - Gorky Park (OOP Kritzerland Edition) James Newton Howard - Outbreak (2CD, Varese Deluxe Edition) Laurence Rosenthal - Clash of the Titans (2CD, Intrada) John Williams - The Fury (2CD, La La Land) John Williams - Jane Eyre (OOP, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $50 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you five ticket into this pool, must donate at least $50 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $1,000 donated Jerry Fielding - The Wild Bunch (3CD, FSM) Ira Newborn - The Naked Gun trilogy (3CD, La La Land) Shirley Walker and Various - Batman: The Animated Series Volume 3 (4CD, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer     All shipping will be paid by me to anywhere in the world!   I will pull names from a hat for each pool, and you get to pick whatever CD set you want if I pull your name!   To be eligible, leave your JWFan username in the comments area of your donation.  If you want to donate but not be in the running for a free CD, mention that in the comment.   Use this link or the link on the mainpage.       Thank you!   Jason, Ricard, and Andreas.

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  1. Williams confirms EPISODE IX !!

    I understand and I hear it too, but I wonder if that's merely a question of talent or lack of knowledge/education? Edit: TGP beat me to it, I see.
  2. Williams confirms EPISODE IX !!

    Not so sure about that. I'd say that JW's entire film career is a reflection of his immense knowledge (and obvious talent). And yeah, those tests I referred to were hyperbolic, but what do you mean with shortcomings on a higher level? Just out of curiosity, as I'm also not a fan.
  3. Williams confirms EPISODE IX !!

    I'm a pianist myself and I also learn stuff at times that is not so relevant to what I do in the end. But as an artist one should always know there is merit in a broad musical education, regardless in what field you're operating. Giacchino writes for orchestra and blockbusters, but sometimes I wonder if he'd pass basic harmony and counterpoint tests at a conservatory. Well yes, of course I'm exaggerating here, and these are not the things that matter most when your job is scoring movies adequately, which he does well. But hearing John Williams' music really is something else.
  4. Williams confirms EPISODE IX !!

    That I know very well, but it's more Hollywood's top composers that concern me.
  5. Williams confirms EPISODE IX !!

    Right on, @Marcus. Writing for orchestra is a great craft that goes back for so many centuries now, and the scores for Star Wars (and many other JW scores) are really an extension of that tradition, whereas most other film music isn't. To *that* extent, Williams' body of work on the franchise is really without peer, but that's not to discredit LOTR or any other style of film music. Sometimes I wished some of the younger composers knew more about "the shoulders we stand on", as Williams puts it often.
  6. Adding ‘Rey’s Journey’, ‘Holdo’s Resolve’ and having the FYC versions of ‘The Spark’ and ‘The Last Jedi’ really creates an awesome sequence of non-stop action material, holy crap. Just when you think you can’t have more orchestral stuff, Williams adds the choir to top it. It makes the whole thing feel much bigger than on the OST. In comparison, I’d say that TFA’s action climax is a little underwhelming (even though the music itself is good). That one was more satisfying in its ending music. ‘Farewell and the trip’ + ‘Jedi Steps and Finale’ is just gold.
  7. Alex Ross on Williams' The Last Jedi

    All the musical information is there, orchestration wise, but there are no notes that reveal any deep intentions. Just stuff like ‘Vadar appears’ or ‘We see 3PO’ above key moments in the cues.
  8. Exactly! Now that we’re at it, I wonder how he’s going to handle Solo, especially since it’s been stated it would be in line with the Williams scores. We shall see.
  9. I'm not absolving JW, just saying the volume at which the score is mixed in the movie and its musical qualities are separate things. Clearly, the very same score would have had more impact in the movie if other people than Williams (Abrams, sound editors) had given it more room to be present. As it is now, I find TFA's score music of exceptional quality, yet the movie doesn't really reflect that well. But frankly speaking, I've always been a fan of the music first so my priorities are maybe different than yours.
  10. Not sure what you mean here - it’s a complaint yes, but not one that you can aim at the composer, right? In my case, I’ve listened to TFA’s soundtrack far more than I’ve seen the movie but I’m perfectly capable of associating it with the things I’ve seen in the movie. Some very strange decisions were made in there though: who thought it was a good idea to completely cover the very first phrase of Rey’s theme with the overpowering sound of a speeder?
  11. I’m curious what the thought behind that method is for traditional orchestral scoring. Maybe it is easier to come to an ideal ‘mix’, without having to care about the orchestrations too much? Still, imagine horns and celli doubling the same line, I do believe they should be in the same room, inspiring each other and feeling that they’re being part of the same musical gesture.
  12. I've seen some ridiculous things like 12 horns, 6 trumpets etc. for John Powell's scores. But scores like HTTYD, while mainly orchestral in writing, sound a bit weird to me because all of the sections are recorded separately from each other. I don't think I like that method too much.
  13. 85 vs. 110 people in the orchestra won’t make a huge difference in sound and even less with recorded music like this. In any case, the orchestra doesn’t dictate what JW writes, it’s the other way around I think. TFA was pretty bare-bones, but with TLJ frankly I was surprised to see the return of the taiko drums, big pounding toms in “Chrome Dome” as well as the choir. Btw, was the number of musicians ever confirmed for TFA/TLJ?
  14. John Williams reaction gifs

    Oh yeah - he consequently misspells it as "Vadar" for *all* of the ESB manuscripts, even the Imperial March is called Vadar's theme. I wonder if he had only heard the name and never read the script at the time?