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  1. I especially liked how Horner used the uilleann bagpipes extensively for Braveheart, which is one of the reasons I love that score so dearly. On the other hand he used the bagpipes much more sparingly in Titanic. And I can only think of a handful of cues that use them: - Logo / Main Title (1st half is also "Never an Absolution" on the OST) - Logo [Alt. Extended] - Trailer - Leaving Port [Film Version] - Lovejoy Chases Jack & Rose - Lovejoy Chases Jack [Alt.] - Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (pipes removed in the film mix) - Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave [w/ Alt. Ending] (pipes again removed from audio in film mix)
  2. That's exactly what I did when I recreated the "Hard to Starboard" film edit. I removed that atmosphere effect simply by looping the ostinato synth and combining it with the alternate cue. I also made "Hard to Starboard" a film mix but without any loops and micro-edits; just the following adjustments to the audio: - added in the metallic whooshing sound for the iceberg being spotted - removed the atmospheric effect but added in the looped ostinato synth (I used my already-recreated film edit) - added in the thicker low brass phrasing of the iceberg motif (heard when ice is falling onto the boat deck and Jack moves Rose out of the way) Guess I could put that into the main program of my custom complete score. Currently in the main program, Hard to Starboard has the metallic sound and amped up low brass but still has the aforementioned atmospheric synth. In addition I added in the heavier low brass into the alternate track but included the muffled timpani roll. LLL just decided to use the OST mix in that section.
  3. Another difference I found in that film stem leak is the edit for the panic in third class sequence ("A Building Panic"). It starts with the "Intro to Building Panic" cue, but the material immediately following is replaced by elements of "Hard to Starboard". In the actual film edit, we hear "Intro to Building Panic" and then "Trapped on 'D' Deck". I can agree that some of the edits were recreated differently than what you hear in the film because they were intended for concert performance. That can also explain why "A Promise Kept" didn't use "The Beacon" by Michael Stearns in the film stem.
  4. I only used that film stem for the following: - adding in the heavier thumping bass line in "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch" - the metallic whooshing sound and amped up low brass in "Hard to Starboard" - the ending of "Intro to Building Panic" and had the larger cue "A Building Panic" start right after, removing the crossfade - a small chunk of the no-bagpipe version of "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave" to remove dialogue echoes It was for both the main program, a few cues in the additional music & alternates, and a handful of my recreated film edits. That being said, most of those toolbox insert cues that are still unreleased, I recreated myself in GarageBand when I redid the film edits, mostly they were for "2 1/2 Miles Down". I only recreated "Drone & Chord" for the film mix of "A Promise Kept" but also have it as a standalone track in the additional music and alternates playlist. In the film edits for "2 1/2 Miles Down" and "Post" I replaced "Drone & Chord" with the synth voices from "A Promise Kept" (I'm talking about the ones you hear before the clarinet solo). Also in the film mix for "A Promise Kept", I recreated those synth voices you hear in the film playing over the low brass in the first part. I found the "Violin Tool Kit" in the behind-the-scenes Electronic Press Kit of the film. Also, "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (w/ Alt. Ending)" is still unreleased, but I was able to find the full quena ending in the EPK behind the scenes video as well. That's the quena solo from "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (w/ Alt. Ending". Would've been nice had it been on the LLL set, but oh well.
  5. When I did my custom complete score, I created my own arrangement of "Eternal Father, Strong to Save" in GarageBand and then added it to the source music, between "Drowsy Maggie" and "Come Josephine In My Flying Machine". I titled it as "Original Piano Performance - Eternal Father Strong To Save", and it's just piano playing the hymn.
  6. I also used the film stem leak to make a cue list for Titanic on another thread, of corse the "cues" are actually multiple different cues edited together, looped, tracked. But here's a cue list of Horner's intended cues (score only) 1M1 - Main Title 1M2 - 2 1/2 Miles Down / To The Keldysh 1M3 - Rose Revealed 1M4 - Distant Memories 2M1 - My Drawing 2M2 - Relics & Treasures 2M4 - Southampton (film version) 2M5 - Leaving Port (film version) 2M8 - Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch 3M1 - First Sighting 3M3 - Rose's Suicide Attempt 3M4 - Jack Saves Rose 3M8 - The Promenade 5M2 - Rose 5M4 - Butterfly Comb 5M5 - The Portrait 5M8 - Lovejoy Chases Jack and Rose 5M9 - Lovemaking Pt. 1 5M10 - Lovemaking Pt. 2 6M1 - Hard to Starboard 7M3 - Rose Frees Jack 7M6 - A Building Panic 8M2 - Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave 8M3 - Trapped on 'D' Deck 8M4 - Murdoch's Suicide 9M1 - The Sinking 9M2 - Death of Titanic 10M1 - A Promise Kept 10M3 - A Life So Changed 10M4 - A Woman's Heart is an Ocean of Secrets 10M5 - An Ocean of Memories 10M6 - My Heart Will Go On / End Credits
  7. A lot of those BTT tracks weren't part of the score to begin with, other than "A Building Panic (Album Suite)" and "The Portrait (Album Version)". However, BTT has the film version of "Alexander's Ragtime Band", which I put into the source music section of my custom complete score. Anyways, I included the song in the score presentation but crossfaded the ending into "Post"
  8. And I will listen to my custom complete score.
  9. TitanicFan2018

    Walt Disney Records The Legacy Collection

    I just got the complete score for Toy Story and find it to be a wonderful listening experience. But there is some material left in the film that is still unreleased - Buzz Revealed Pt. 2 (when Hamm asks Buzz "So where you from? Singapore? Hong Kong?"), the abridged version of "You've Got A Friend In Me" heard during the film's opening credits, the reprise of the song performed by Randy Newman and John Lasseter (plays over the ending credits), and the film version of "I Will Go Sailing No More". And there are couple unused cues. So I created a custom complete score for Toy Story, putting the film versions of the Randy Newman songs into the main score presentation and their OST counterparts along with the two unused film cues with the additional music. SCORE PRESENTATION 1. Opening / "You've Got A Friend In Me" [Film Version] (crossfaded the song into the opening cue, truncated the song, ripped the "just remember what your old pal said" part from the film) 2. Andy's Birthday Is Today 3. They're Alive! 4. Staff Meeting Everybody / You Too Bo Peep (crossfaded cues) 5. Andy's Birthday Party 6. Code Red 7. A Good Soldier Never Leaves a Man Behind 8. Presents: Who Invited That Kid? / Surprise Present (crossfaded cues) 9. Buzz Revealed (part one only) 10. Buzz Flies 11. Strange Things 12. Woody & Bo Peed 13. Sid 14. Virtual Reality 15. Woody Plots / Robe Globeburg (crossfaded cues) 16. Woody Did It! 17. Rescue Attempt 18. Buzz, You're Alive! 19. Buzz and Woody Fight 20. Buzz's Mission 21. It's a Spaceship, Buzz 22. Pizza Planet Rock 23. What? Hello? A Space Port! 24. The Claw 25. Dr. Sid 26. Mutant Toys 27. Woody's Gone 28. Sorry Guys, Dinner's Canceled 29. Scud 30. Buzz Lightyear Commercial 31. I Will Go Sailing No More [Film Version] (used the first 20 seconds of the version heard in the film, truncated song) 32. Out The Window 33. Sid's Toys Fix Buzz 34. The Big One / Sad Andy (crossfaded cues) 35. Buzz, I Need Your Help 36. Working Together (Leads to Failure) 37. The Rescue - Part 1 38. The Rescue - Part 2: Play Nice, Sid 39. Chasing the Van 40. RC to the Rescue 41. To Infinity and Beyond 42. Together Again and a Very Merry Christmas 43. You've Got A Friend In Me (Reprise) / End Credits (used the version of the song heard during the end credits) ADDITIONAL MUSIC 1. Strange Things (Piano Vocal Demo) 2. Plastic Spaceman (Piano Vocal Demo) 3. I Will Go Sailing No More (Piano Vocal Demo) 4. The Fool (Piano Vocal Demo) 5. You've Got a Friend in Me (Album Version) 6. I Will Go Sailing No More (Album Version) 7. Strange Things (Instrumental) 8. I Will Go Sailing No More (Instrumental) 9. You've Got A Friend In Me (Alternate) 10. What Are You Doing Under The Bed‡ 11. Sid Counts Down‡ ‡unused film score cue That said, I think Toy Story 2 deserves a Legacy treatment, and then Toy Story 3.
  10. TitanicFan2018

    The Complete Cue Lists Thread

    Titanic (1997) - James Horner Note: most of the "cues" listed below are a bunch of multiple cues edited together, tracked, looped, as the score for Titanic was heavily edited Sources: Titanic Live film stem 1M2 - Opening / The Titanic 1M3 - My Drawing 1M4 - Distant Memories Pt. 1 - I'll Be God Damned 1M5 - Distant Memories Pt. 2 - A Call From Rose 2M1 - Memories of the Drawing 2M2 - Reflections 2M4 - Southampton Dock 2M5 - We're Going To America 2M8 - Take Her To Sea - King of the World 3M1 - Jack Sees Rose 3M3 - Rose's Suicide Attempt 3M4 - I won't Let Go 3M7 - The Heart of the Ocean 3M8 - Madame Bijou 5M2 - The Kiss 5M4 - Jack Draws Rose Intro 5M5 - Jack Draws Rose 5M8 - The Chase 5M9 - To The Stars 5M10 - Love Scene 6M1 - The Berg 6M5 - The Start of the Sinking 7M2 - Rose Frees Jack Pt. 1 7M3 - Rose Frees Jack Pt. 2 7M4 - Rose Frees Jack Pt. 3 / Large Ocean, Little Ship 7M6 - Panic in Third Class 7M9 - Women and Children Only 8M2 - Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave 8M3 - Trapped on 'D' Deck 9M1 - Titanic Founders Pt. 1 9M2 - Titanic Founders Pt. 2 10M1 - A Promise Kept 10M3 - A Life So Changed 10M4 - A Woman's Heart is an Ocean of Secrets 10M5 - An Ocean of Memories 10M6 - Song: My Heart Will Go On 10M7 - End Credits
  11. Not without you. Anyways, I just played the film version of "Leaving Port" over the sequence where Jack and Fabrizzio race to the ship before it departs Southampton. And it worked well. If only Cameron didn't replace it with the butchered "Heaven Help Us" music as well the ending of the "Southampton" OST version (I like that the chimes were added though).
  12. It's one of my favorite film scores, but it can't be compared to other scores like Braveheart, the LoTR films (composed by Howard Shore), etc.
  13. I kinda figured, but I remember finding the recording sessions on YouTube.
  14. I had a feeling LLL was going to be the one releasing the expanded/complete scores for the first three HP films. But finally they would get released after the recording sessions were leaked.
  15. Even my recreated film edits are more musically sound than what you hear in the film, but they're still a jarring listening experience albeit to a lesser extent. I'd choose the score presentation (w/ film version cues in their proper order) over the film edits any day. By the way it's almost been a year since LLL released the entire score for Titanic.
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