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The idea I got was that they were close in the past, but their relationship deteriorated a bit. I found Goldsmith´s comment, how he's like to a fly on the wall, when his daughter interviewed John, very curious.

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Don't worry. It's a passing phase.

Stefancos- who's been finding everything shitty and agrivating lately.

No, I don't really belive that is just a passing phase. Is just the way you look at life.

But of course, it surelly helps to have kind loving friends, that are there for you, always.

@ pi

Let me congratulate you on the beutiful new avatar.

And you're probably rigth on your remarks, is just that I never expected all that from Jerry.

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  • 6 months later...
Shoma Iruni hastin? :mellow:

Hi, Bluemenkohl. I'm not Iranian. But Iranian musical heritage and history interests me. I hope to visit Iran soon.

Va shoma?

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I have Persian heritage but no close relatives that have lived there in the last 100 years.

I took German, French, and Italian classes....and in college I decided to try something different and so I used my Persian heritage and elected to take Farsi for two years.   :nod:

I have a couple of Iranian friends where I live, very nice people.  

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That's suspect. First that Polonium incident and your trip to Russia at that same time, now this....

You shipping bootlegged depleted Uramium, aren't you?

LOL I have to admit that one of my "talents" seems to be accidentally timing things that they end up looking damn suspicious to others. If I ever wanted to visit the U.S for a trip to 'Wally World', they'd never let me in. Or, they'd probably dress me in an orange suit and lock me away for 20 years. "All I wanted to see was Wally World. I didn't want to blow it up.....honestly". In truth, I'm actually a John Williams "Missionary", polluting these regimes with "western decadence through Orchestra" :nod:

I used my Persian heritage and elected to take Farsi for two years. :)

Wonderful. Do you also like the traditional Iranian music, Blumenkohll?

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I have some amazing violin works by Parviz Yahaghi, various pianists including Anoushirvan Rohani.  Very tantalizing stuff.  

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Lukas Kendall is a class act.

I agree with a suggestion of his, maybe the very personal material compiled by Carrie Goldsmith should be turned over to a professional biographer.

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People actually thought this would ever see the light of day, after reading the excerpts?

No, that's why I mentioned I figured there would be some legal obstacles.

Plus I remembered someone posting a quote from Mrs. Goldsmith on some message board, may have been this one, who didn't actually give it a ringing endorsement.

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Such books are always going to dissapoint certain peoples image of someone they admire. One look at Mozarts letters back and forth between his family show instances of bitterness, hissy fitts, immaturity, crude language, mockery of other musicians of his era and his own students, blatantly empty sweet talk, smug arrogance, and more, along with sides to him that are more appealing to most people. To me, this wasn't a surprise really. Wagner is hardly a very likeable person, going by his life. But his music is genius. Mozart was slowly refashioned by admirers into a kind of ethereal angel figure of sheer glimmering perfection over a few hundred years, in an attempt to match to his his music as if he'd come from some cloud up above, only to glide serenely away. I'm sure Jerrys biography gets to the bare bones of things. Jerry seemed to say what was on his mind more. I remember seeing that interview before the concert in the Barbican, and noticing that Jerry wasn't a fake. Fairly abrupt. If he was bored with the same old questions and idol worship, it clearly showed on his face. If somebody asked when this or that score was going to be released, he said something like - "Are you going to come up with the money to make it happen?".

Quite unlike Mr Williams.

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True, but the book still wasn't ready nor close to being fit for release.

There are still some legal obstacles that would need to be polished out. Everyone has to agree on the material, you can go around talking about people, family or non family, and make it public without making sure there is no chance of someone suing or taking legal action.

It also sounds like working on this project took an emotional toll on Carrie Goldsmith and she may not want to finish it.

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Goldsmith's comments about John Williams makes sense to me. Sure, there's a tiny bit of "professional jealousy" there, but I understand it and don't see it as wrong. Jerry obviously liked his way of getting ahead better than Williams', and why not? The very act of composing is one of not only creation but ego. All composers have an ego, and some hide it better than others. Some get out of control with it, but I don't see that in Jerry's case. You know, he did compliment Williams' music a lot, and even defended him once I know of to someone who said he "lost it". Let's not demand utter professionality in a frank biography. In fact, publishing the raw conversations would be better than adding a daughter's commentary anyway.

The book could be done if Carrie would give up the struggle of how to portray her father, or make it a narrative or whatever, and just publish his words. I assume his "legacy" is being discussed among the kids, but nohing he says will destroy that. In fact, just the 2 chapters released have helped it IMO.

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In general, I am rather opposed to relatives as authors of biographies; it so easily taints the work, and adds an ugly shine of social pornography.

Having said that, I am very appreciative of this effort, and only hope that the misguided decisions that halts this project won't ultimately ruin our chance of seeing some sort of expanded Jerry Goldsmith biography that would include pertinent snippets of conversation (Goldsmith on Goldsmih, etc.), while giving the task of chronicling Goldsmith's career and artistic development to someone less biased and better equipped.

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  • 11 years later...

There was once a specialist film music store in Leeds, called Movie Boulevard. I visited it a few times, bought a shit load and got to know the proprietors. They said that they knew a lot of "scandalous" stories about JG. They told some of them, but, and rather like the Romulan ambassador, I didn't know what to believe.

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