QMM 4 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com has confirmed that the next feature film installment of "Batman" will be called The Dark Knight. It will be directed by Christopher Nolan and Heath Ledger will play the role of The Joker. We'll have the official release tomorrow, so stay tuned.Christian Bale will reprise his role of Bruce Wayne/Batman in the follow-up to Batman Begins, which earned $371.9 million at the worldwide box office in 2005.Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Isn't that old news?k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 Title: NoLedger: Unconfirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 So Ledger is official then? I always wanted the sequel to be called Batman Rises, but I like this title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I thought the title was Broke Bat Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Great News!Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 This trully is a movie to look forward too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzOutcast 122 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I heard a while ago that it may be called "Batman Strikes" and I grew to like that name . . . ah well, Dark Knight is fine. Ledger as Joker . . . that's a bit of a wait-and-see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Just for clarification, is it "Batman: The Dark Knight" or just "The Dark Knight"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 So, er, why are they doing a Batman film about the Joker... Burton did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 because Joker is a Batman staple and Burton's and Schumacher's movies have nothing to do with the Nolan franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 "Batman Begins" was an awful silly title. What does he begin to do? The movie "Batman" begins? A machine called "Batman"? No sens at all."Batman: The Dark Knight" / "The Dark Knight sounds good enough."Batman Strikes"? No. Like the first title, there's something missing, a content. Why "strike"? Strike at crime? I didn't feel that needed to be clarified. Strikes again? back? why? It sounds as if he were launching an offensive, starting a war (on crime, okay, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRuleOfThirds 0 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Why can't they just go with the obvious Batman vs. Joker? BVJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I heard a while ago that it may be called "Batman Strikes" Damn Superhero unions! They're always after better working conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 So, er, why are they doing a Batman film about the Joker... Burton did that.BurgaFlippinMan already said it, but Nolan's re-ignition of the franchise is something uniquely his. He is poised to far surpass anything that Burton or Schumacher has accomplished. He made a better movie than all of their movies, and now he has an opportunity to continue a franchise that is truly worthy of continuing. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 So, er, why are they doing a Batman film about the Joker... Burton did that.This won't be a Joker film. It will be a Batman film with the Joker in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 "Batman Begins" was an awful silly title. What does he begin to do? The movie "Batman" begins? A machine called "Batman"? No sens at all.It's quite simple.Batman Begins by respecting the titling trend from the previous franchise (Returns, Forever, and Robin). Then, as a young man Batman Begins his quest (chronologically a prequel to that franchise), except Batman Begins without any unwanted continuity from said franchise. Also, Batman Begins being a respectable icon again! This is because Batman Begins to be portrayed as a realistic human with a full character arc (Batman Begins as a human first, then logically embodies the superhero facade).It's pretty clear the title is meant to be respectful yet critical of the previous franchise, and calling the next film The Dark Knight shows Nolan intends to take it in a different direction, now that it has "begun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 So, er, why are they doing a Batman film about the Joker... Burton did that.This won't be a Joker film. It will be a Batman film with the Joker in it.Also, the Joker was set up as the next villain at the end of Begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMan 0 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Looking forward to this in a couple of years!BTW, just in case anyone wants to know, I got my FIRST TEACHING JOB! Band/Jazz/Chorus at Ellington HS in Ellington CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Congratulations!Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 "Batman Begins" was an awful silly title. What does he begin to do? The movie "Batman" begins? A machine called "Batman"? No sens at all.It's quite simple.Batman Begins by respecting the titling trend from the previous franchise (Returns, Forever, and Robin). Then, as a young man Batman Begins his quest (chronologically a prequel to that franchise), except Batman Begins without any unwanted continuity from said franchise. Also, Batman Begins being a respectable icon again! This is because Batman Begins to be portrayed as a realistic human with a full character arc (Batman Begins as a human first, then logically embodies the superhero facade).It's pretty clear the title is meant to be respectful yet critical of the previous franchise, and calling the next film The Dark Knight shows Nolan intends to take it in a different direction, now that it has "begun".Thanks, Bowie-- but, still, as a title, "X begins" sounds pretty ridiculous, I think."Batman: The Beginning" would have made more sense-- same interpretation (your message), but something that makes sense on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V_For_Vendetta 0 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 OMG I can see now. Heath Ledger playing as The Joker hitting on Batman/Bruce Wayne. LOL It's gonna be so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Doubt it.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 He is poised to far surpass anything that Burton or Schumacher has accomplished. He made a better movie than all of their movies, and now he has an opportunity to continue a franchise that is truly worthy of continuing. That's debatable, I much prefer both Burton's Batman films to Batman Begins, and it's not like it's hard to surpass the crappy Schumacher ones. And both Batman and Batman Returns have way better music than Batman Begins which to me is very important. Anyway IMO the best Batman film is still Mask of the Phantasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Film first. Then music. Burton's films allowed Elfman much more opportunity for the grandly symphonic score he wrote. I don't hold Burton's films in as high of a regard as Nolan's stylistically, but you can cartainly argue that Burton's films are more evocative to your tastes. However, where Batman Begins runs far ahead of Burton's films are with story and character. And I find his style highly complimentary of characters and story, including the music; though Howard's portion was much more in tune with the emotions of the film than Zimmer's bland action writing.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius_Gone_Insane 5 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I hope this is more to the point, action/mystery based than the other Batman flicks, which I think tend to dive too much into Bruce Wayne's psyche, ie "who am i." That got old in Batman Forever. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Ledger will make a terrible Joker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I'm willing to give him a shot, he's a good actor when he gets the right roles. The Joker could go either way for him. Nolan did such a fantastic job with the first one, casting wise, and did terrifically with Memento and Insomnia, that I trust his judgment on this one.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I am cold to any seuquel to Batman Begins,which I i not really enjoy.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Ledger will make a terrible Joker.Right, because he's not actor or anything.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I still have to see the first one.Ray Barnsbury - who really likes Batman Returns, for some reasonEDIT: Oh yeah, here's why: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I have faith in Nolan. If he picked Ledger, there's a reason for it. Look at the cast they assembled for the first one. They made one mistake (Holmes) and they admitted to it, rectified it, and moved on. I don't think they'd make the same mistake twice. Ledger must've had a hell of an audition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Physically, Ledger looks more the part than we might think at first glance. I'm a huge Batman fan, Batman Begins was the first live action Batman movie that I loved, so I am more than confident for the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Ledger was definately not my first (or third) choice, but I have faith in Nolan's decision.Rabbit--who also likes Burton's Batman, especially Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I am cold to any seuquel to Batman Begins,which I i not really enjoy.What that guy said. I don't recognize that avatar. It was pretty good for a superhero movie, but that's a real low standard in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 IMHO, Batman Begins was a great movie, no matter the genre. It was beautifully paced, had a great photography, a fantastic cast and trully made justice to what is, to me, the most fascinating superhero of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I am cold to any seuquel to Batman Begins,which I i not really enjoy.What that guy said. I don't recognize that avatar. It was pretty good for a superhero movie, but that's a real low standard in my book.The score in this case has a lot to do with it.How can a Superhero movie be good with a lame score....K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claesgrufman 0 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Can someone please clarify specifically which scenes in the movie that Howard scored? As I'm more familiar with Zimmer's style, his scenes are easier for me to pick out.On the whole, I thought Batman Begins offered a mature movie and score. That main "alternating double sixteenths" ostinato is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Brilliant? Nah.Ledger was definately not my first (or third) choice,Was he your second choice then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Another rumor going around from the same people as the first one is that the Penguin may show up in it and Philip Seymour Hoffman has reportedly been asked to play him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 As for the score, I'm pretty sure all the irritating, generic synth beats were Zimmer and the pieces of music that closest resembled theme or music were probably Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Was he your second choice then? No, Ledger was my fourth choice actually . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 The score in this case has a lot to do with it.How can a Superhero movie be good with a lame score....That was my point exactly, to me for a movie to be good it needs good music, and Burton's Batman and Batman Returns have Batman Begins beaten in that area by a lot. Of course music wasn't the only problem with Batman Begins but it was a very important problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I wonder how the music will be in this next sequel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Batman Begins is not a "superhero" movie; it's much better than that. If that's what you want, go see the Supermans, the Spidermans, and Burton's Batmans. Regarding music, read my post above. The material honestly didn't call for loud, bombastic music save for a few scenarios.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I wonder how the music will be in this next sequel...Superhero or not, it deserves a score better then synth beats and lack of themes. It doesn't n eed to be like Burton's, but it needs to have actual music with a theme or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 The film does have themes. How familiar are you with the score, both on CD and in the film?Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ted is right, there are plenty of themes in Batman Begins. That score is better than most you give it credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 When I think of themes I generally think of more than two or three repetitive synth beats. There may be themes, but they're not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't think a film like this needed a leit-motif approach. It needed a melancholy yet intimate score, and I think Zimmer and JNH provided that. I swear I remember hearing something about a big theme they wrote for the film that was cut out at the request of the director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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