#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 If I had a choice between vomiting in a toilet, Trainspotting style, and then scooping it out of the bowl and eating it again, or watch the 3 prequel films in one sitting....Well...I'd really have to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 The prequels are a testament to the old wisdom that Hollywood is a town where they gladly give suckers an even break....Simply ignoring 30 or 40 years of filmmaking progression, they stampede like bushmen tribes charging against any filmmaking virtue western culture has ever produced and it's glaringly obvious that Lucasfilm must be the equivalent of a totalitarian state, where you'll suffer grave consequences if you challenge the all-knowing 'leader', which of course is the emperor without clothes when the reviews from the free-of-his-clutches press come in.It's fascinating that he obviously choose to ignore that not only one, but two times. Jackson, on the other hand, may not be the most subtle of directors. but in comparison to Lucas, he's an our-era-Van Gogh or Rembrandt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 The problem with your statement is that the Prequels are not Hollywood films, they are the most expensive indie-films ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I thought LotR was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 They were funded by New Line right? Isn't that a Hollywood studio?The money from the prequels came from Lucas, who got it from....us.We paid for the Prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Yes, I suppose. But I always classify it as a New Zealand film, seeing how it was shot in New Zealand, by New Zealanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 That's not the correct classification as it is used in the actual movie world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Anyway, a movie not made in the US doesnt mean it is an independent movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 No, but would one classify it as Hollywood filmmaking? I mean in the case of LotR specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I always classify it as a New Zealand film, seeing how it was shot in New Zealand, by New Zealanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 It was shot and created in New Zealand, by New Zealanders, with Hollywood money.Ugh. Why mess with a great trilogy by making shitty prequels?Didn't they learn from Lucas?Erm. There's the big difference that The Hobbit is actually an integral part of the story, and always has been since before LOTR was written (as H was both written and released years before LOTR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Marian is correct on both parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 True, but the Hobbit is boring compared to LOTR, so it will come off just like the SW prequels compared to the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 You know this?How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The problem with your statement is that the Prequels are not Hollywood films, they are the most expensive indie-films ever made.I thought that the most expensive indie film was Joel Shumacher's The Phantom of the Opera.Rabbit--who doesn't hate the prequels as much as some other people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 you should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The only one that I really hate (which is more of a dislike) is Attack of the Clones, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The Hobbit isn't boring, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 It's supposed to be a story for CHILDREN for heaven's sake! If I remember correctly, Tolkien gave the finished script to C.S. Lewis' son to get feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 The Hobbit is my least favorite of all of Tolkien's Middle Earth works. It can be dull in some parts, and it's a tad simplistic too because it was written for children. I hope the film version includes the "bigger picture" events in addition to the appropriate stuff from Bilbo's adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I just didn't think The Hobbit was a great book. I've read LOTR 3 times and The Silmarillion 3 times, but I have no desire to re-read The Hobbit because it's boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 It's supposed to be a story for CHILDREN for heaven's sake! If I remember correctly, Tolkien gave the finished script to C.S. Lewis' son to get feedback.His publisher's son, actually. Or his publisher gave it to his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The Hobbit isn't boring, by the way.I actually enjoyed it more than the LOTR books....which move along slower than a snailAnd yes, I loved ewoks growing up and I still like the little buggers. (Shut up.)I loved them too, but now I just...erm...don't mind them. Burga - who thinks we will probably see a generation who grew up loving Jar Jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I hate Ewoks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Oh come on, how can you hate fluffy teddy bears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 By having them wipe out the Empire rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 But you can't say that Ewoks are worse than Gungans, because if you did, you would be insane. I like Ewoks, but I can't find a valid reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I like Ewoks, but I can't find a valid reason why.i feel similarliry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Jar Jar was the only dumb Gungan. Outside of their dumb language they were human sized and had some technology. Jar Jar was the one who ruined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I hate Ewoks.Its impossible to hate them when you watch ROTJ at 4 yrs of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I just didn't think The Hobbit was a great book. I've read LOTR 3 times and The Silmarillion 3 times, but I have no desire to re-read The Hobbit because it's boring. I personally felt that The Hobbit was simply an entirely different kind of book than LoTR. It is an innocent, cheery and fun adventure romp, told from the perspective of someone who sounds like he's talking warmly of a good friend's exploit. LoTR is not innocent, cheery, fun (except for some patches), and is not written about warmly. They are two entirely different kind of books. If I'm looking for a good, entertaining read, I'll go to The Hobbit (Or Tom Clancy's Debt of Honor, whichever I find first). If I'm looking for a serious reading venture, that will most likely occupy my mind for a couple of months, I'll take LoTR (Or some massive biography, like Team of Rivals, a great one which I recently finished about Lincoln and his cabinet, soon to be a Spielberg film). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Jonathan is right.LOTR is great, but it does feel like you are studying ancient history and cryptology instead of reading a work of fiction.The Hobbit is a plain and simple andventure book with a few wonderfull characters a good story and nothing much more.It's wonderfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Yes.I love it when I see the "new post" flag next to an interesting ongoing thread, eagerly click on the link, to read a post like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Its the little things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sure is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 People really want to increase their post count these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Not me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 [This space intentionally left blank]Hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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