CharlieSherry 0 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Who is composing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Elmer Bernstein and Howard Shore. Sounds cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 I thought it was just Elmer. Hmmm Shore too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Elmer's score was scrapped, and Howard was brought in to replace it.Sort of like the time John, wait it never happened with John. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Replace Bernstein with Shore??Why would anyone replace a master with a bloody novice?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Wait, John Williams had a score replaced, I can't remember which one though. It was a long time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Shore is not a novice And Bernstein is not a master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Wait, John Williams had a score replaced, I can't remember which one though. It was a long time ago...To my knowledge Williams has never had a score rejected.Stefancos- :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Replace Bernstein by Shore does sound akward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaine 0 Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Maybe this can clear things up (I found it at http://www.cinemusic.net ):Word is that Elmer Bernstein's score for Martin Scorese's Gangs Of New York has either been rejected or partially replaced. Mikael Carlsson of MusicFromTheMovies.com asked Howard Shore, who is rumored to have contributed music to Gangs, just what the hell is going on.Folks, I asked Howard Shore about his involvement in Gangs of New York. This is what he had to say:"I did not score this film but contributed a part of a concert piece called 'brooklyn heights' that i have been working on that has never been premiered. I have licensed this piece for use in the film. I did not record it as my involvement in composing, orchestrating and conducting 'The Two Towers' has had me completely absorbed for the last 9 months."Howard also says that "other music for the film has been recorded by Peter Gabriel and Bono". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I am resurrecting this ancient, dusty thread to post a cool video I just found, only uploaded a month ago. Somebody made an attempt to set Elmer Bernstein's rejected score for Gangs of New York to specific scenes. Pretty cool! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Interesting. Didn't know Bernstein's score was hearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, TGP said: Interesting. Didn't know Bernstein's score was hearable. Varese released it with two other Bernstein rejected scores https://www.discogs.com/Elmer-Bernstein-Elmer-Bernstein-The-Unused-Scores-Gangs-Of-New-YorkJourney-Of-Natty-Gann-and-The-Sca/release/10769766 Jurassic Shark and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,326 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, TGP said: Interesting. Didn't know Bernstein's score was hearable. But is it listenable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, TGP said: Interesting. Didn't know Bernstein's score was hearable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001U38XWI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I tend to forget about this film a lot in Scorsese’s oeuvre, along with Bringing Out The Dead. What a streak he had from ‘99 to ‘10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 For those of us who loved Hugo, Wolf, and Silence he ain't stoppin! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I seem to remember some people round here ragging on Wolf. I thought it was absolutely brilliant, up there with his greatest ever portrayals of criminal excess and amorality. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 That's one of the few movies I've genuinely struggled to get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Must have been you I had this discussion with last time. Whereas for me the hours flew by, I was entertained and entranced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I’m in the same boat with TGP. I thought it was terrible, and it firmly knocked me off the Scorsese bandwagon. Hugo was pretty poor as well, despite a strong and heartfelt middlish-third act revolving around Méliès. He should have just made one of his usual documentaries instead. Havent seen Silence yet. Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Call me Wolf-stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I seem to remember some people round here ragging on Wolf. I thought it was absolutely brilliant, up there with his greatest ever portrayals of criminal excess and amorality. It's right up there with Casino. As much as I can marvel at the technical virtuosity on display in Goodfellas, it's a film that leaves me cold. Pauline Kael said it best. Scorsese the arousal junkie makes you feel you’d like to hang out with him and listen to him tell how he brought off the effects; he’s a master. But this picture doesn’t have the juice and richness that come with major performances. It has no arc, and doesn’t climax; it just comes to a stop. Conceivably the abruptness could work, but I don’t think it does. Will the lift of the moviemaking still carry some people aloft? Maybe, because watching the movie is like getting strung out on pure sensation. That’s Scorsese’s idea of a hood’s life. It’s also a young film enthusiast’s dream of a director’s life, and in Scorsese’s case it’s not too far from the truth. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sJq7EtIKTNMJ:scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/08/18/goodfellas-review-pauline-kael/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I enjoyed Wolf of Wall Street a lot but am bummed that he had to rush it into theaters before he was done editing to hit that year's Oscar window instead of waiting for the next year's. I'd like to see both a tighter 2-21/2 hour version as well as deleted scenes from the original 4 hour cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 398 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Sharky said: It's right up there with Casino. As much as I can marvel at the technical virtuosity on display in Goodfellas, it's a film that leaves me cold. Pauline Kael said it best. Scorsese the arousal junkie makes you feel you’d like to hang out with him and listen to him tell how he brought off the effects; he’s a master. But this picture doesn’t have the juice and richness that come with major performances. It has no arc, and doesn’t climax; it just comes to a stop. Conceivably the abruptness could work, but I don’t think it does. Will the lift of the moviemaking still carry some people aloft? Maybe, because watching the movie is like getting strung out on pure sensation. That’s Scorsese’s idea of a hood’s life. It’s also a young film enthusiast’s dream of a director’s life, and in Scorsese’s case it’s not too far from the truth. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sJq7EtIKTNMJ:scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/08/18/goodfellas-review-pauline-kael/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b I don't agree with her on this particular one, but man she was the master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Sharky said: It's right up there with Casino. As much as I can marvel at the technical virtuosity on display in Goodfellas, it's a film that leaves me cold. Pauline Kael said it best. Scorsese the arousal junkie makes you feel you’d like to hang out with him and listen to him tell how he brought off the effects; he’s a master. But this picture doesn’t have the juice and richness that come with major performances. It has no arc, and doesn’t climax; it just comes to a stop. Conceivably the abruptness could work, but I don’t think it does. Will the lift of the moviemaking still carry some people aloft? Maybe, because watching the movie is like getting strung out on pure sensation. That’s Scorsese’s idea of a hood’s life. It’s also a young film enthusiast’s dream of a director’s life, and in Scorsese’s case it’s not too far from the truth. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sJq7EtIKTNMJ:scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/08/18/goodfellas-review-pauline-kael/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b Kael is a sucker for story. Goodfellas isn't about that. While Goodfellas is universally considered the better of the two, Casino is the one that is visually more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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