Jay 37,281 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It was practically non existent for 25 years, and now consumers buy vinyl more than compact discs. It's pretty remarkable actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Its part of the nostalgia zeitgeist we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It's mostly interesting to me that music sales are so, so far down overall, regardless of medium its purchased on. Essentially, people would rather leech music these days than pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If you wanna hear something, almost everything is easily available on YouTube. Its the sign of the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 youtube or ad-supported streaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 When I listen to music at work, it's usually YouTube through my laptop speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Unwashed heathen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 YouTube obviously has a great selection but unless you buy into it, a lot of the music doesn't work for background listening on my phone. It's annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 What does the gray line on the bottom represent? At first I thought it was just the bottom of the chart but it does fluctuate a bit. Minidisc? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Minidisc was great! 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Why is streaming more popular than downloads? Wouldn't streaming drain your monthly data allowance more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 You still live in 2002 over there! Or 1997! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Streaming can also cost money. And if free streaming eats up your monthly data, throttling the rest of your month, what good is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just get better data service if that happens. It's unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: Just get better data service if that happens. It's unacceptable. No such thing in 'Straya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Not good enough, damn it! Not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 11 hours ago, ATXHusker said: What does the gray line on the bottom represent? At first I thought it was just the bottom of the chart but it does fluctuate a bit. Minidisc? 😂 That's a great question! I just went back to the original post and couldn't find the answer there (but one commentor did ask!). Minidisc seems like a decent guess except I don't think it would still be so high in the 2010s. Huh. EDIT: See here: https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/ It's probably an aggregate of all the other mediums mentioned here (SACD, DVD-A, etc) Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 8 hours ago, xWxzek said: Streaming can also cost money. And if free streaming eats up your monthly data, throttling the rest of your month, what good is that? How small is your monthly data cap that streaming music would cause an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bilbo said: How small is your ? Buy me a drink first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, xWxzek said: Buy me a drink first. Now those are streams I can get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Bilbo said: How small is your monthly data cap that streaming music would cause an issue? I wonder. My cable internet at home is unlimited. My mobile cap is 14 GB monthly, and these days all of that is even usable with EU roaming. That covers a full holiday with mobile Netflix streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,624 Posted May 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2019 Streaming= living with limited choices and the risk of losing your favorite tracks when they decide to delete them Like the only way right now to listen to the complete SW OT scores is having the c.d.'s or MP3's of the 1997n SE's I don't know why anyone would support this for the sake of convenience it's only good if you don't have specialized tastes The Illustrious Jerry, Bayesian and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I do both - buy CDs and do streaming. The latter is a great way to explore new music. The Illustrious Jerry and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Support streaming too much and in 10 years i'll be the only option. Apple discontinuing some ipod models was the first step in not letting me listen to music the way I want to, and I'm sure it's going to get worse Arpy and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Streaming will not go away. CDs will continue in a small niche market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 hopefully c.d.'s will be the new Vinyl The Illustrious Jerry and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 They certainly will, after the resurrection of the cassette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I keep thinking of piss when people say streaming. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: I do both - buy CDs and do streaming. The latter is a great way to explore new music. This is also what I do. I buy the stuff I love and have a physical copy of it. But most of the music I listen to I just stream from Apple Music. The Illustrious Jerry and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I detest paying for a subscription service for streaming music - music I don't own. I'd rather pay for CDs, rip them and play them through a range of devices I have, or play the CDs in a dedicated player. There's also the idea the CDs (as fragile as their cases are) that they're collectible pieces with the artwork and booklets, and their small size is great for storage or display. There are people who do buy vinyl for the ephemeral aspect too. I think ultimately the writing's on the wall for CD, sadly, there will of course exist limited markets for CD, but it's impossible for this niche to continue when studios and licensing would find it cheaper to provide digital releases of scores, as fledgling a market as it is already. Richard Penna and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 What do you do when you want to sample complete albums that you don't yet own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I suppose I can RCA a streaming device into a recorder and just make files I can keep. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: What do you do when you want to sample complete albums that you don't yet own? I download it with the intention of buying it when it is eventually and hopefully released. Though how does your question relate to the streaming factor? I doubt any bootleg scores are streaming on any service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arpy said: I download it with the intention of buying it when it is eventually and hopefully released. Though how does your question relate to the streaming factor? I doubt any bootleg scores are streaming on any service! So you only listen to bootlegs? I was of course referring to albums that exist in both streaming and CD format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Alright, alright, ye got me lad. I'm a pirate. Avast, Blackguard! I'm off to plunder the shrines that mustn't be spoke! Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 9 hours ago, The Original said: I keep thinking of piss when people say streaming. You see, you can stream without worrying about data limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: You see, you can stream without worrying about data limits. You think Data has to piss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 He just streams it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 As steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Bluetooth 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Arpy said: I detest paying for a subscription service for streaming music - music I don't own. I'd rather pay for CDs, rip them and play them through a range of devices I have, or play the CDs in a dedicated player. There's also the idea the CDs (as fragile as their cases are) that they're collectible pieces with the artwork and booklets, and their small size is great for storage or display. There are people who do buy vinyl for the ephemeral aspect too. I think ultimately the writing's on the wall for CD, sadly, there will of course exist limited markets for CD, but it's impossible for this niche to continue when studios and licensing would find it cheaper to provide digital releases of scores, as fledgling a market as it is already. Yeah, I’m not interested in paying for a streaming service. Granted I get that with Amazon Prime but my main purpose for having that is for free shipping and deals on physical products. I use Spotify to sample so the commercials don’t bother me. I was surprised to see I haven’t even used that in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 You'd just forget your password anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 18 hours ago, The Original said: I keep thinking of piss when people say streaming. Don't cross the streams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 4:00 AM, King Mark said: Support streaming too much and in 10 years i'll be the only option. Apple discontinuing some ipod models was the first step in not letting me listen to music the way I want to, and I'm sure it's going to get worse No, the iPod became obsolete because of the iPhone. My iPhone holds more music than any previous generation iPod ever did. Richard Penna and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Koray Savas said: My iPhone holds more music than any previous generation iPod ever did. Obviously, because iPods stopped with a ceiling of 160 gigs. If they sold larger models, I didn't know about them and I missed out. I see iPhones being sold with 512 gigs storage, is just ludicrous but also awesome. My Android could play along by using larger microSD cards, but I don't use it as a music player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Koray Savas said: No, the iPod became obsolete because of the iPhone. My iPhone holds more music than any previous generation iPod ever did. Yeah. iPods stopped selling because people were using their iPhones for music instead. Between streaming and larger storage capacities there was no sense in keeping the iPod Classic or nano around. They still have the touch (and I have one) but that’s it. It hasn’t been updated for awhile but there’s a rumour of one coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 10:46 AM, Arpy said: I detest paying for a subscription service for streaming music - music I don't own. I'd rather pay for CDs, rip them and play them through a range of devices I have, or play the CDs in a dedicated player. There's also the idea the CDs (as fragile as their cases are) that they're collectible pieces with the artwork and booklets, and their small size is great for storage or display. There are people who do buy vinyl for the ephemeral aspect too. I think ultimately the writing's on the wall for CD, sadly, there will of course exist limited markets for CD, but it's impossible for this niche to continue when studios and licensing would find it cheaper to provide digital releases of scores, as fledgling a market as it is already. This! I refuse to pay for Spotify - I need to own the music. As I've said before, I'm starting to let go of CDs, with the recognition that digital downloads are quicker and more economical, and having the music matters way more than owning an object. The one thing you lose by not owning a CD is being able to do gapless rips - a feature I only discovered earlier this year - ripping a section of a CD instead of separate tracks, so that tracks intended to flow into one another are ripped as one track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Dont most mediaplayers support gapless playback nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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