The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Edit Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 High-res downloads of Hubris are available exclusively from Powell's official website. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 E'yup, that first 50 seconds is pure Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Finally I can listen to The Prussian Requiem again! I remember the concert at the Royal Festival Hall like it was yesterday. The entire piece was great, but it was the last part, "The Gift" which created a kind of electric atmosphere in the auditorium. In the recording, from about 6:00 in that track you can hear the voices of the tenor and bass become distant; this is because they both turn 180 degrees to face the choir standing and singing wordlessly behind the orchestra. It's one of those moments in music where everything falls into place and you feel that the musicians together go beyond merely "playing the notes" and seem to reach into some transcendental sphere. Gosh I get chills listening to it right now! Anyone who's a fan of English classical music in the style of RVW should certainly give The Prussian Requiem a listening. crocodile and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2018 Out of the four threads I could have posted this, I'm choosing this one. Just heard Powell's Hubris cycle. Very impressed. The Prize is Still Mine is a singular work. Powell certainly had a lot of artistic guts to combine rather disparate musical palates, but the final result is surprisingly unified and moving. The Prussian Requiem is an excellent work indeed. Powell's intent and approach is unique, and very well executed. The familiar and the new come together dramatically, making for a complete artistic statement and emotional experience. Requiem Addendum is more traditional, if you will, but the writing is of the highest quality. Powell seems to be reaching great heights. An opera might be a good idea, actually. Muad'Dib, Breadstick Basilisk, Kasey Kockroach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted June 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 I just discovered the End Credits from Ice Age 3 and they’re awesome Muad'Dib, Breadstick Basilisk, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Easily one of my all-time favorite Powell cues right thar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Well, i know nothing of music theory, but this hurts my head quite bad: Powell has a blatant tendency to write his themes with this one particular writing style: Recently in hubris (0:28 - 0-54) : and the of course Chewie's theme (especially during this highlighted part): and then there is a theme from HTTYd 2: i picked only three examples, but you guys hear the similarity in writing style? It's hard to find the appropriate term, but it sounds like the notes is "spiralling", hill-y, elongated, swaying...(?).. i give up. Can anybody here shine a light to this? the musical term and such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 That first example you quoted reminded me a bit of section of Exultate Justi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: It's hard to find the appropriate term, but it sounds like the notes is "spiralling", hill-y, elongated, swaying...(?).. i give up. Can anybody here shine a light to this? the musical term and such? You're close. The proper term is "Spiralling Hill-y Elongated Swaying Chord Sliding". I can give a rough indication of what is going on. Basically, Powell loves using basic triadic chords and progressions and doesn't shy away from them when he feels it necessary. All those examples have quite rapid chord progressions of such basic chords. The fact that the chord changes are RAPID (i.e. almost every note has a different harmony) contributes to the "spiralling" sensation, whereas the fact that the chords have different lengths gives the swaying sensation and helps emphasise stronger and weaker points in the melody, hence giving a sense of hierarchy. The hill-y aspect comes from the melody's smooth contour (up--->.....down------>, not up down up down etc...) Those examples actually sound quite folk-ish to me, like a faster version of this: Play it at 2x speed. Not saying that this is folk but perhaps you can hear what I'm getting at. That's a start, anyway... PrayodiBA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's pretty much in every score by Powell: Horton etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Well, that's John Powell figured out! Now, time to get back to Williams... Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 @Loert He (Williams) really seems to like horns going D Eb Db/E F Eb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Williams uses brass a lot. There, I figured out John Williams. Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Williams uses brass a lot. Percussion too. 5 minutes ago, Fal said: @Loert He (Williams) really seems to like horns going D Eb Db/E F Eb You are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 He DOES? What a disgrace! Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Loert said: You're close. The proper term is "Spiralling Hill-y Elongated Swaying Chord Sliding". I can give a rough indication of what is going on. Basically, Powell loves using basic triadic chords and progressions and doesn't shy away from them when he feels it necessary. All those examples have quite rapid chord progressions of such basic chords. The fact that the chord changes are RAPID (i.e. almost every note has a different harmony) contributes to the "spiralling" sensation, whereas the fact that the chords have different lengths gives the swaying sensation and helps emphasise stronger and weaker points in the melody, hence giving a sense of hierarchy. The hill-y aspect comes from the melody's smooth contour (up--->.....down------>, not up down up down etc...) Those examples actually sound quite folk-ish to me, like a faster version of this: Play it at 2x speed. Not saying that this is folk but perhaps you can hear what I'm getting at. That's a start, anyway... Thank you so much for your time! Just what i was looking for, and i will get to learn more based on your answer. the obvious fact that you are the very expert at this is when you successfully justifed my nonsensical terms with logical explanations, that i could understand. Thank you again! ---- The happy feet 2 times faster part actualy reminds me of Arabian-Grand Bazaar music. As a matter of fact, hearing them again, all of the examples do sound kinda Arabic. 4 hours ago, Fal said: It's pretty much in every score by Powell: Horton etc. Yeah, hahaha Well, i guess i have to settle with that being Powell's style, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2018 Has anyone seen that? There is a new segment of building a crate. At around 3:57, coming into the new segment, it somehow transitioned into the current Powell's writing style (from Powell's 90s-00s old style). Idk if it is just me, but it feels different. Then there is a longer suite for Lando's Closet. I dont quite like it. the higher pitch kinda ruins in, sadly Yavar Moradi, crocodile and Breadstick Basilisk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Nice to hear The Gift. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I like that Qi’ra theme. Sounds okay on my computer, but I’ll make an MP3 of it and listen in my car to see how it sounds. Jolly decent of the audience to withhold their applause till the conductor relaxes his arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I had the pleasure to attend a concert of John Powell in Hamburg. What a privilege to hear it live! https://soundtrackworld.com/2018/06/hollywood-in-hamburg-john-powell/ karelm and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 The analysis on this page could explain why I find Powell's themes so memorable - the 'sliding' nature of them and constant chord changes really seems to excite me. Even though some of them are quite simple in construction, they're still memorable. A lot of other composers also use a wandering style, but I think their use of chords must be different or more static. His action material is occasionally OTT, with too much going on (first HTTYD especially), but his melodies.... sublime. Kasey Kockroach and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Current source of ear pleasure. Muad'Dib and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I've been trying to figure out a proper way to articulate this, but I'm at a loss, so I'll just throw it out there and see if any conversation ignites from whatever inanity I spew out. I've always found that there's something particularly distinctive about Powell's handling of flutes. I can't put my finger on what it is, but there's a specific consistent way flutes sound in his scores that often grab my ears. I don't know how to describe it. I'm hoping someone who knows how to actually talk about musical terms can elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 12 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I've been trying to figure out a proper way to articulate this, but I'm at a loss, so I'll just throw it out there and see if any conversation ignites from whatever inanity I spew out. I've always found that there's something particularly distinctive about Powell's handling of flutes. I can't put my finger on what it is, but there's a specific consistent way flutes sound in his scores that often grab my ears. I don't know how to describe it. I'm hoping someone who knows how to actually talk about musical terms can elaborate. Can you give an example? Do you mean something like this? crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Yes, precisely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Loert said: Can you give an example? Do you mean something like this? This track is currently one of my favourites. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Yes, precisely! Maybe you mean the double-tonguing that flautists do when playing fast notes? So like this: Only that Powell would usually write for multiple flutes together, like this: I think in general Powell treats the flute more as a staccato instrument than a legato instrument. He does legato passages too but his usage of staccato, ballet-style flutes is quite distinct. Kasey Kockroach and PrayodiBA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 That kind of flute writing always makes me think of the beginning of the scherzo from Mendelssohn‘s Midsummer Night’s Dream wdb408 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Flower Festival! Not Mr. Big and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 One of the great score cues of recent years for sure Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caliburn 72 Posted July 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2018 I just returned from the MOSMA festival in Spain. It was quite magical as you can see. I think that Powell has signed around 300-400 times in about an hour. Sadly no interview though, but that was probably too much to ask 🙂 Kasey Kockroach, Loert and crocodile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 q: "from scale 1 - 10, how hard is it to play John Powell's music?" a: ( This is the only guy who successfully recorded the concert from Malaga, that i could find ) Amazing suite from Powell, as always If only Powell could do concert in Asian region Kasey Kockroach and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Yeah, that concert was great. I was also quite impressed by the A Prussian Requiem two days before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Apparently was involved with this? http://www.karmina.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hmm, the concert must be really behind schedule because the broadcast is like 15 minutes late... Now 45 minutes late... Maybe he messed up the times?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 With the release of American Dreams, i tried to hear Bergensen's previous efforts again And this track : (mind the audio volume) First, it is nice for Powell to have been able to create his own music style, but.. How could anyone other than Powell could well imitate and emulate his style easily, and with sophistication, such as that track..!?? ............... Locrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Something about the fade-out here is just beautifully poetic and "epic": Those soft bells... Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Wow i just realized, this HTTYD 2's "Lost and Found" theme: is actually an elongated and swayed version of this Just Visiting's theme: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Edit Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Are you only now discovering these?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I had heard them before, but now I'm really hearing them! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just be warned,several of those older Powell scores had weird album presentation where cues had to be split apart. They play together without a gap, but any cues that use choir had to be split into bits to avoid some kind of choir use fee, or something like that. It's not a bother when you're playing the score all at once, but when you want to listen to particular cues, one has to do some combining work on iTunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 So was this mentioned before and I just missed it? View this post on Instagram Who’s coming to @httydragon in concert in Lucerne? #JohnPowell #soundtrack #howtotrainyourdragon #httyd A post shared by John Powell (@johnj_powell) on Nov 13, 2018 at 10:49pm PST crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 It’s not in Texas, so who CARES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2018 So John Powell actually got TWO Grammy nominations. As discussed over on the Williams subforum, "Mine Mission" is nominated for Best Instrumental Composition. But I'm much more happy to see that he also got a nomination for the Ferdinand score! "Madrid Finale" is nominated for Best Arrangement, Instrumental or A Cappella Bofur01, Jay, Kasey Kockroach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 This is an off topic but.. ...this is to reassure that Powell is far from retirement. And now we can only wait for the announcement of what his next score will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Why would he be retiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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