Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 These are the composers who are/were perhaps known more for their orchestration duties than for their compositional output. Your Mark McKenzies, Conrad Popes, Nicholas Dodds, William Rosses, even your Alexander Courages and Don Davises.What's your list of top scores to come out of this crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,177 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The Matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Chamber of Secrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Before Neil gets it in: Superman The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 Has anyone heard Pope's Pavilion of Women, or McKenzie's Durango? I've heard good things about both. I think Erik Woods dedicated one of his radio shows to McKenzie awhile back, actually.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Before Neil gets it in: Superman The Movie.Superman IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Before Neil gets it in: Superman The Movie.Superman IV. Surely you know that Herbert Spencer was fully responsible for Williams's Golden Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yes, after he died Williams sound changed radically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yes, after he died Williams sound changed radically.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Has anyone heard Pope's Pavilion of Women, or McKenzie's Durango? I've heard good things about both. I think Erik Woods dedicated one of his radio shows to McKenzie awhile back, actually..Pavilion of Women. There is clearly a Williams sound recognizable (or probably, a Pope sound). It's a good score, rather introvert, comparable to George Fenton's Anna and the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw_researcher 0 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Herbert Spencer full responsible for Williams' golden age? Not likely.Most of the scores Herbert worked on involved other orchestrators as well, he wasn't the sole orchestrator utilized during the so-called Williams "golden age". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Before Neil gets it in: Superman The Movie.Superman IV. Surely you know that Herbert Spencer was fully responsible for Williams's Golden Age.But on the otherside, if you read the Superman sheet music sketches, you see that all the instruments are notated in the music.So I can't see why a score like Superman should sounded radically different by an other orchestrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The writing of Empire (of the Sun, that is) doesn't differ much from that of Jurassic Park (just to name one). It's only his style that has evolved, nothing to do with orchestrators, because, as many other times stated, all notes are already in the sketches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The notes, yes. But not the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The writing of Empire (of the Sun, that is) doesn't differ much from that of Jurassic Park (just to name one). It's only his style that has evolved, nothing to do with orchestrators, because, as many other times stated, all notes are already in the sketches.It still has not been adequatly proven that his style has evolved, or that it merely changed for the worse.Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yes, after he died Williams sound changed radically.No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Before Neil gets it in: Superman The Movie.Superman IV. Surely you know that Herbert Spencer was fully responsible for Williams's Golden Age.But on the otherside, if you read the Superman sheet music sketches, you see that all the instruments are notated in the music.So I can't see why a score like Superman should sounded radically different by an other orchestrator.Yeah, I don't see what's going on. I just said Superman IV is a great score by one of Hollywood's orchestrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 No mention yet for Hugo Friedhofer in this thread? How VERY dare you!The Best Years of Our Lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,177 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I never noticed any particularly radical changes in Williams' sound. It has always been gradually evolving from work to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The one fundamental change I've noticed over the years is that his wonderful simplicity (sleight of hand) has increasingly become more and more complex. A turn off, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 No mention yet for Hugo Friedhofer in this thread? How VERY dare you!The Best Years of Our Lives. And no mention of John Williams as orchestrator either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASW 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 No mention yet for Hugo Friedhofer in this thread? How VERY dare you!The Best Years of Our Lives. I don't post here a lot, but I this was the first score that came to mind when I saw the thread title. Guess you beat me to it! A great score for a great film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 78 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I guess it's stating the obvious that one of the most likely recognizable pieces of film (well, television) music ever, the theme to the original Star Trek series, was written by Alexander Courage. The scores to the shows were corny, as was most of 60s TV, but for the time they were great...in fact I'd put a lot of them up against the crap on TV these days. I was lucky enough to get to study and work with Earle Hagen while he was alive...now there was a guy who wasn't really a Bartok or Strauss of our time, but he was a helluva great composer for TV. I miss those days!OK GREAT now you've all gone and got me NOSTALGIC. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 For me also Superman The Movie and Aliens (orchestrated by Greig McRitchie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Ennio Morricone anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Who does he orchestrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Who does he orchestrate?Himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I don't think that was quiet the point of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 For me also Superman The Movie and Aliens (orchestrated by Greig McRitchie).Ok, I'll repeat myself:But on the otherside, if you read the Superman sheet music sketches, you see that all the instruments are notated in the music.So I can't see why a score like Superman should sounded radically different by an other orchestrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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