Kevin 22 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Pity his career has gone down the toilet. His scores for Star Trek VI, Christopher Columbus: The Discovery, Madaglene, Triumph of the Spirit, and Free Willy 3 show how gifted a composer he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I just discovered Christopher Columbus: The Discovery and indeed that seems to be a pretty good score.Haven't listened to much outside the main theme yet, but it does sound promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah it's a shame he never took the next step after Star Trek VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Indeed. Other than parts of Star Trek, the only music I have is the theme from Traveling Pants on the Varese 30th set.Maybe just one of those composers who doesn't like big projects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah it's a shame he never took the next step after Star Trek VI.Check out "Christopher Columbus: The Discovery"That was pretty much his last really big and meaningful effort, and it's damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 A very talented composer that got pushed out in the wayside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah it's a shame he never took the next step after Star Trek VI.Check out "Christopher Columbus: The Discovery"That was pretty much his last really big and meaningful effort, and it's damn good.(Cough)StarTrekVI:TheUndiscoveredCountry(cough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Stef, Columbus was a year after Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Columbus discovered America in 1492, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 He was after Star Wars at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have an interview with Mr. Eidelman in the next issue of Film Score Monthly Online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hey, that is pretty nifty, Tim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have an interview with Mr. Eidelman in the next issue of Film Score Monthly Online.I look forward to reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 6 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Columbus discovered America in 1492, I think.How did he discover it when people were already living there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 HE didn't know it was there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 This may have already been posted in the Star Trek Discovery thread, but I wouldn't know because I'm avoiding the spoilers there. https://io9.gizmodo.com/listen-to-this-short-album-of-unused-star-trek-discove-1819950947 Haven't listened to it yet either, but I'm massively surprised this is even a thing! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Not as bad as the theme they went with, but pretty lackluster. Does every composer suck now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Many composers submitted materials for this project and I think Cliff Eidelman's effort was very impressive and I would have loved to hear it on the show. I only saw the first hour since I don't have CBS all access so don't know what became of the story line but I think many of us assumed it would be in the vein of a modern version of the other Star Trek story (Gene Roddenberry's vision). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, The Doctor said: Not as bad as the theme they went with, but pretty lackluster. Does every composer suck now? They are on par with every ST writer of the last 10 years. So, to answer your question, "yes, they do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 18 hours ago, The Doctor said: Not as bad as the theme they went with, but pretty lackluster. Does every composer suck now? The brief for the theme must have sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 According to his Facebook page, there is a remastered re-release of his score to Triumph of the Spirit through his Eidelman's own label, Tempest Music. There's a Q&A on his Facebook about it (which I've not had the chance to watch) but the re-release seems to be available at various places, notably Qobuz: https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/triumph-of-the-spirit-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-cliff-eidelman/eqwty7oe7p8mc. It's also on 7Digital, but isn't lossless (for some reason). Also on Spotify for the streaming crowd... Apparently he financed this himself so hopefully it'll get a decent number of buyers and maybe lead to some more of his scores being remastered/expanded and maybe lead to a CD release if LLL or someone wants to collaborate with him. If anyone has any more info, do feel free to add! It's a great score that certainly shows the promise that he never quite had the opportunity to fulfil. Edmilson, Yavar Moradi, crocodile and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 I should give me CD of that a metaphorical spin again, I have no recollection of the score at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Give us MacGyver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I should give me CD of that a metaphorical spin again, I have no recollection of the score at all. Given the subject matter it's naturally fairly intense at times, but well worth a spin. I have a feeling I recalled this having not especially great sound so if he's had the opportunity to improve that, then great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Finally got round to the remastered Triumph of the Spirit and it really is quite the improvement - who knows why the original sounded so terrible, but I'm glad he was able to go back to the original tapes and produce a vastly improved release of a very fine score. Having not listened to it in a while, the rather strident Main Title feels a bit over the top but it soon becomes a lot darker and haunting, with some very fine choral writing, notably The Slaughter and Death March which are both as chilling as you might suppose, although there are some more hopeful moments as in Mercy on to (unto?) Us. It does all feel a bit more like what one might expect the score to a Hollywood score for a film about the Holocaust to sound like, with a considerably more grandiose approach compared to the understatement of Schindler's List. Still, as a standalone piece of music, a superb score and, were it not for the subject matter, would likely be mentioned in the same breath as Star Trek VI as one of Eidelman's finest works. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Finally got round to the remastered Triumph of the Spirit First time I hear about this score. I saw the trailer and it seems very interesting! Have you seen the film? By the way, which is the remastered soundtrack? I see here 2 releases in 1989: https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2732/Triumph+Of+The+Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, filmmusic said: By the way, which is the remastered soundtrack? I see here 2 releases in 1989: https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2732/Triumph+Of+The+Spirit The remaster has only been released digitally. I posted more details in this FSM thread: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=151059&forumID=1&archive=0 Only $7.49 for CD quality lossless download from Qobuz! Yavar filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, filmmusic said: First time I hear about this score. I saw the trailer and it seems very interesting! Have you seen the film? By the way, which is the remastered soundtrack? I see here 2 releases in 1989: https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2732/Triumph+Of+The+Spirit I've not seen the film but it seems to be moderately well regarded. I just enjoyed the music as a standalone listening experience (as with most scores to be fair!). The two releases listed there are just the original US (Varese) and European (Colosseum) releases. The new release, as Yavar said, is digital only and is on Tempest Music so make sure you pick that version when buying! Qobuz: https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/triumph-of-the-spirit-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-cliff-eidelman/eqwty7oe7p8mc (inexplicably £8.99 in the UK, versus $7.49 in the US, although still a pretty decent price!). Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I'm just listening to it at spotify! Quite good score (I'm on track 14). I cannot detect a theme though at first listen.. Is there a main theme a la Schindler's List? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Eidelman's LEAP OF FAITH was released today, on Paramount Music. I've loved the cue on his SELECTED FILM MUSIC promo compilation forever, and it's great to finally have a whole soundtrack; a nice and tidy 24 minutes worth. Beautiful score, although the film looks like a proper cheeseball. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2023/07/13/cliff-eidelmans-leap-of-faith-score-to-be-released/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Thor said: Eidelman's LEAP OF FAITH was released today, on Paramount Music. I've loved the cue on his SELECTED FILM MUSIC promo compilation forever, and it's great to finally have a whole soundtrack; a nice and tidy 24 minutes worth. Beautiful score, although the film looks like a proper cheeseball. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2023/07/13/cliff-eidelmans-leap-of-faith-score-to-be-released/ Just listened to it. Nothing extraordinary, but nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I will make it my life's mission to recommend a score to you that you find extraordinary! On 22/04/2023 at 6:20 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Give us MacGyver! Were you perhaps thinking of Randy Edelman here, JS? I can understand the confusion -- Cliff Eidelman, Randy Edelman, Stephen Endelman..... Incidentally, the best MACGYVER score wasn't written by Edelman (not sure how much he did beyond the theme anyway; wasn't most of it done by Dennis McCarthy?), but by Ken Harrison, for the TV film THE LOST TREASURE OF ATLANTIS from 1994. Wish that got a release some day. But a MACGYVER boxed set would be nice anyway. I know that Norwegians and Germans would be particularly thrilled, as he was/is bigger here than he ever was in the US. Sorry for the off-topicness. Back to Eidelman and the premiere release of LEAP OF FAITH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thor said: I will make it my life's mission to recommend a score to you that you find extraordinary! Haha. I think I have listened to all the extraordinaries! Maybe I have grown too old to be impressed any more. I am still impressed by films/soundtracks I know from the past, but nothing new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I think there's plenty more for you to discover. We just need super specific parameters to work with. For example, I think I've gleaned that you prefer traditional orchestral scores that subscribe to a neo-romantic tonal language. An extension of the very tradition Cliff Eidelman represents, in fact. So it's just a matter of specifying. For example, are you familiar with the scores for Japanese Taiga dramas? I feel fairly confident that you would enjoy something like Yoko Kanno's score for ONNA JOSHU NAOTORA and Yugo Kanno's score for GUNSHI KANBEE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thor said: For example, are you familiar with the scores for Japanese Taiga dramas? I feel fairly confident that would enjoy something like Yoko Kanno's score for ONNA JOSHU NAOTORA and Yugo Kanno's score for GUNSHI KANBEE. No. What is a taiga drama? I enjoy Yoko Kanno's score for the first story of the anime MEMORIES. I'm currently listening to this. Is it representative of the style you mention? It's quite good. edit: Oh, found it at spotify: Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, filmmusic said: No. What is a taiga drama? I'm no expert, and I'm too lazy to google at the moment, but it's this annual Japanese TV drama, set in historical times, that encompasses generations of storytelling. 3 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I'm currently listening to this. Is it representative of the style you mention? Sure, and even more spectacular cues than that. Sorry again for the off-topicness. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 48 minutes ago, Thor said: Were you perhaps thinking of Randy Edelman here, JS? I can understand the confusion -- Cliff Eidelman, Randy Edelman, Stephen Endelman..... Whatever, just give us MacGyver already. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Thor said: Eidelman's LEAP OF FAITH was released today, on Paramount Music. I've loved the cue on his SELECTED FILM MUSIC promo compilation forever, and it's great to finally have a whole soundtrack; a nice and tidy 24 minutes worth. Beautiful score, although the film looks like a proper cheeseball. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2023/07/13/cliff-eidelmans-leap-of-faith-score-to-be-released/ STOP THE PRESSES! We found a COMPLETE SCORE RELEASE (expanded 10 minutes longer than the old composer promo, even, because it includes cues recorded for but not used in the film) that Thor approves of! 😜 Great news all around! Yavar Tallguy and Thor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/100009275426845/videos/171663262474883/ (sorry, I don't know how to Facebook embed) Amazing to think that Eidelman is now 58 years old. He looks much younger. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Thor said: Amazing to think that Eidelman is now 58 years old. He looks much younger. He didn't have much Hollywood wear and tear to wear him down… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 He's been living comfortably on his MacGyver money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 He’s always looked younger. He’s the Ralph Macchio of film music! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,961 Posted Sunday at 01:01 PM Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 01:01 PM Tom Guernsey, GerateWohl, karelm and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted Sunday at 01:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:15 PM I listened to Magdalene yesterday, and I found it a great score, although there are a couple of obvious "influences" from Mozart's Requiem. Check it out if you haven't yet. Pity that he has disappeared from the film music world! (Although to tell you the truth, I've only listened to 3 scores in total by him) Tom Guernsey and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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