Jay 37,363 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Major labels just don't care about that stuff the way the specialty labels do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Why do Link and Harry and the Hendersons have the same cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 They're both entries in the Crappy 80s Ape Cinematic Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Then why doesn't Monkey Shines have that cover? Though I'd argue Monkey Shines doesn't count because it isn't crappy, I like the other two aforementioned movies (and scores), so I'm in no position to be contrarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 LINK? "Crappy"? Fuck off. The film might be risible, by the score is top-notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 11 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I have never seen or heard of this movie, but that cover is legitimately terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Believe me, the film isn't. Terrance Stamp had the good grace to disappear in reel three...but the score is, definitely, worth a listen. It's a worthy successor to the previous Goldsmith/Franklin project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 hours ago, John said: I have never seen or heard of this movie, but that cover is legitimately terrifying. As well as the third chord of the main theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 How are music recordings not filled with the sound of pages turning? Are the pages arranged and printed in a way to minimise it, is it removed/diminished afterwards in mixing or is it nixed by a special recording setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Does anyone know where/if one can buy the national anthem recordings they use during the World Cup match openings? I'd really like to have all these organ/brass versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,913 Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Holko said: How are music recordings not filled with the sound of pages turning? Are the pages arranged and printed in a way to minimise it, is it removed/diminished afterwards in mixing or is it nixed by a special recording setup? Are you talking about scoring sessions? The copyist tapes the parts to open in an accordion way and page turns are put in generally good places to prevent huge page sounds. The sounds are definitely in recordings, but are way low in the mix so most people won't hear it. During a scoring session, you often hear the recording engineer say something like "we need to do another take because there was a lot of stage noises" which can be either page turns, sounds of picking up a pencil, mallet, putting a mute on or off, sometimes even chairs creaking. It will be easier to hear in very quiet passages and not at all noticed in very loud passages. In my experience, mallets are a much bigger problem than page turns. Loud breathing also bad. In some recordings, you can clearly hear the conductor hum. The musicians are frustrated to blow a good take on something like this but also important is by this stage in their career, they have been playing for many years and have mastered good page turning technique. I played in an orchestra where everyone made a big production out of turning the page and it was frustrating. Then I went to the LA Philharmonic and sat behind the orchestra where you can see the pages and you can't even notice them turning it they are just so professional and fast at it from years of having done it. They are elegant, swift, and QUIET! bollemanneke, Brundlefly, Holko and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 When I (as a European) sign up at amazon.com it is mentioned that in addition to the price of the product and the shipping costs there could be an extra toll for shipment overseas. Does this apply to something as a single CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I guess it depends on your country's laws on customs. though I never ordered anything from a store outside Europe, so I'm not the expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 51 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: When I (as a European) sign up at amazon.com it is mentioned that in addition to the price of the product and the shipping costs there could be an extra toll for shipment overseas. Does this apply to something as a single CD? I already bought a CD on ebay, I pay for shipping fees (US to Canada)... and I had to pay others fees to get it at my local Post Office. Of course, I gave the seller only 1 star as review. He did'nt chose the right shipping method, he chose a cheaper one and he put the money in his pockets... burglar. Normally, Amazon will charge you the right shipping fees, you'll don't have to pay additional fees when getting the parcel. But, I don't know, maybe it depends if you buy from Amazon directly or from the markeplace. At least, they notice you it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: When I (as a European) sign up at amazon.com it is mentioned that in addition to the price of the product and the shipping costs there could be an extra toll for shipment overseas. Does this apply to something as a single CD? You have to pay taxes when the value stated on the package is above a certain value, and that value depends on the country you're living in. In Norway, it's approx. €37 (including shipping charge) at the current exchange rate. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: You have to pay taxes when the value stated on the package is above a certain value, and that value depends on the country you're living in. In Norway, it's approx. €37 (including shipping charge) at the current exchange rate. So, when the seller doesn't state the value of the package, I wouldn't have to pay? Anyway, how much do you have to pay usually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 If I remember correctly, when Bolle bought an album for about 40€ including shipping from Varese, he had to pay an additional 45€ or something to recieve it. That's just insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 My advice is: if you really love John Wiliams and want to collect his albums, move in America. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: So, when the seller doesn't state the value of the package, I wouldn't have to pay? Anyway, how much do you have to pay usually? If the seller doesn't state the value, the customs guys use some standard rates. If the seller states an incorrect value (to avoid customs), it usually goes well. I have to pay value added tax (VAT) which in Norway is 25%, in addition to a fee which usually is significantly more than the tax. 1 minute ago, Bespin said: My advice is: if you really love John Wiliams and want to collect his albums, move in America. 😀 If you ask politely you might get to live in JW's house, like under the stairs or something. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: If you ask politely you might get to live in JW's house, like under the stairs or something. ... and wait to be saved one day by a kind of Hagrid? Com'on show John Williams how you really love him. Move in his country. What are you waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Come to Texas! I need the company! And the heat is fantastic! You'll never have to worry about being cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's not about John Williams, it's about Jerry Goldsmith in this case. Sadly, I cannot shown him any more, how much I love him. Anyway, he would have hated me, because I'm a bottlecapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Turns out I've had Close Encounters of the Third Kind all this time. More specifically, grandpa's had the Arista album with 26 tracks. I've never really delved into this score before. How's this album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 It sounds a bit wonky, but it's a better listen than the hastily slapped together '77 OST. Disc 1 of the 2017 LLL edition is way better than it, both in sound quality and presentation of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Anyone have any idea how much music from the film is missing here (if any is missing at all, I'm assuming there's some stuff missing just to be safe)? https://www.amazon.com/Peter-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B0013JK6A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1530045312&sr=8-1&keywords=peter+pan+soundtrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Can I order 6 CDs directly from La-La Land without being apprehensive of extra fees/customs? (I'm living in Germany.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Turns out I've had Close Encounters of the Third Kind all this time. More specifically, grandpa's had the Arista album with 26 tracks. I've never really delved into this score before. How's this album? 2 hours ago, Jay said: It sounds a bit wonky Wonky? It sounds fantastic! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Wonky? It sounds fantastic! Sounds fantastic, and is an amazing listening experience. One of Williams' absolute best albums, it flows so incredibly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Wonky? It sounds fantastic! I thought it sounded fine at the time, but the 2017 remix is much better than the 1998 remix I'd say. The choir is so much more prominent on the LLL edition, and the Dialogue track is really messed up on the 1998 CD. It just doesn't sound right, and doesn't even feature the Jaws bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Can I order 6 CDs directly from La-La Land without being apprehensive of extra fees/customs? (I'm living in Germany.) Did anyone who is living in Europe buy directly from La-La Land already and knows how they handle it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Recently a member of this forum sayed what I suspected, that the sound quality of the original vinyl of Dracula is far superior than the sound of the 1990 CD reissue. So I look for a good WAV rip of a mint copy of this vinyl. I will digitally restore it and then we'll be finally able to finally compare. I started a new thread dedicated to his fan-made restoration project --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Who here has confidence transferring a spinning hard drive to an SSD for seamless startup? What software would you recommend? I'm upgrading my laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I use Paint for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, Wojism said: Who here has confidence transferring a spinning hard drive to an SSD for seamless startup? What software would you recommend? I'm upgrading my laptop. I have had this done before - let me see if we are saying the same thing. My main drive was failing and needed to get replaced. I had a 2 TB SSD as the replacement try. I went to a local computer repair guy who I trust and he did a bit by bit copy from one drive to the next. When you do that, the SSD thinks it is the old drive. Is that what you mean? I have a lot of iLok software and you have a few added steps - like you need to pause iLok apps before the transfer and re-enamble after otherwise your software will lock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Basically. My laptop came with a hard drive. I bought an M2.5 SSD and I want to make it the primary without reinstalling Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Does Varese have perpetuity rights for The Burbs? An improved re-release would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Speaking of The Burbs, I'm wanting to take the Deluxe Edition and recreate the album presentation (but keep some cues from the DE), but the cue titles are different on each release. Any help as to which cue is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Shut up and paint your God damn house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 18 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Speaking of The Burbs, I'm wanting to take the Deluxe Edition and recreate the album presentation (but keep some cues from the DE), but the cue titles are different on each release. Any help as to which cue is what? Main Title = Night Work (Main Title) Welcome to Mayfield Pl. = The Window / Home Delivery New Neighbors = Good Neighbors Klopek House = Let's Go Storytelling = The Sentinel Neighborhood Watch = My Neighborhood A Nightmare in the 'Burbs = The Dream Brownies? = Snooping Around The Assault = Hot Wires Ray Peterson, Neighbor from Hell = Something Is Moving Runaway Ambulance = My Skull / The Gurney Vacation's End = Pack Your Bags End Titles = Square One (End Credits) Substantial omissions from the OST are Bad Karma, The Wig, Walter's Home and The Trunk. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Why does it matter who scores the Avatar sequels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Because Horner's score for Avatar was a masterpiece, one of his finest, and it's important to be cautious in choosing who will be handling/expanding upon the original film's musical legacy. I personally think James Newton Howard is the perfect man for the job. He's a very versatile composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I still say Zimmer would be most suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Was Debussy influenced by jazz or did he influence jazz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Personally, I'd guess at "neither". Jazz is said to be the USA's one indigenous music-form. Since Debussy died 100 years ago, he probably didn't get to hear much jazz. That being said, it's entirely possible that his music was beginning to some jazz idioms, whether he'd heard jazz, or not. Law of coincidences, and all that. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Both. It was a feedback loop, same with Ravel, Stravinsky, Milhaud, etc. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, TGP said: Both. It was a feedback loop, same with Ravel, Stravinsky, Milhaud, etc. Shame that a lot of times things came back around, composers would make some real cheeky, riki-tiki music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Jazz is a white, European invention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 There's certainly a lot of European folk and dance music embedded in the roots of jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Anyone else like the Modern Jazz Quartet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: Anyone else like the Modern Jazz Quartet? I thought they were a little too stiff and self-conscious when I heard them. Composers like Duke Ellington, John Williams, Wayne Shorter, Gil Evans, Charles Mingus, and Lalo Schifrin offer a far more compelling, authentic, internalized synthesis of musical worlds than so many self-proclaimed "Third Stream" musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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