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      Donate to JWFan, win a CD!   05/30/17

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What is the last Television series you watched?

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That sucks.  The high today here is close to 90 fahrenheit.  Then tomorrow the high is in the 60s!  Schizo weather.

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3 minutes ago, Jay said:

The heat turned on in the house yesterday for the first time in like 2 weeks.  We had a gorgeous streak of amazing weather and now its back to rainy and cold

 

We had 20 Celsius less then 2 weeks ago. 2 days ago i biked to work in 1 degree above freezing.

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54 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Shows I want to watch, but simply have not yet started:

 

The Wire

The Man In The High Castle

Mad Men

The Americans

Bates Motel

The Affair

The Leftovers

 

 

 

Wow, I've seen all these shows except for The Man In A High Castle. (and I don't see as many shows as you do)

 

 

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I finally binged Deadwood a few years ago.  The first season I thought was quite good, but I remember being sort of disappointed by the time season 3 rolled around. It was definitely a solid show and in many ways ahead of its time...I'm not sure if you'd call it pre-golden age or one of the first golden-age shows, but the kind of top shelf quality we take for granted now was definitely present in Deadwood. Though again, I don't think I was taken with it as others, and I don't think I'd watch it again...though certainly I'd check out a movie. Needless to say that show was all about McShane and it wouldn't have worked without him.

 

I remember liking Rome better, and that's a show I think I'd like to watch again.

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The Sopranos started the Golden Age, Nick.

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Oh really? I did not know that.

 

Sopranos is one of those huge cultural things I missed, probably because I was living in Russia when people were going crazy about it. I've also never seen a single Fast & Furious or Transformers movie.

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2 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

Thank god for Transformers, though!

 

I KNEW it!!!!!!!  

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Girls Season 6

 

Miserable ending to a miserable show.  It had potential when it launched but never reached it at all.  The biggest problem with the show is that the four main characters are all completely self-indulgent narcissists, and remain that way until the bitter end.  Hardly any of these characters show any growth at all over 6 years (though I guess the show only actually covers 2-3 years of their lives).  The biggest problem with the later seasons is including the more more interesting characters (Shoshanna and Jessa) less and less, in order to instead feature new characters that aren't as good (Elijah, Hanna's neighbors) more and more.  Marnie is insufferable and never learns any lessons, which is basically how you can describe Hannah as well (but at least she tries).  Shoshanna was great throughout primarily thanks to Mamet's performance) but the show never bothers to give her a really important storyline (her Japan season was a waste of potential) or worthwhile ending.  In fact, the biggest problem with the final season is that no one got an ending!  The final episode had no sense of finality to it; It was just another episode.  Which means retroactively the final scenes we got of all the characters that weren't in the final episode (So, everyone but Hannah, Marnie, and her mom) got in the episodes leading up to the final were their final scenes in the whole series, none of which felt like final scenes at the time, not remotely.  Maybe the showrunners were trying to say something about the fluidity of life choices and didn't want to give an ending to any of the characters, but it just leads to me feeling like "well what was the bloody point of watching these characters for 6 years if you have nothing to say about them and don't show them learning anything"?

 

I can't recommend anything about this show, unless someone makes a youtube cut of all of Shoshanna's best moments or something.

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You watched a show you hated for 6 years?

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It wasn't hated for six years; Often shows have just enough potential that you keep watching to see where it goes, then when it goes nowhere or to a horrible place in the end (Dexter, How I Met Your Mother) the whole show becomes worthless in retrospect.  Also, my wife liked it, and we watched it together.  It's not like I sit there in rapt attention taking in every detail while watching a show I don't love; I might be on my phone or the laptop or folding laundry or whatever.  Haven't we covered this topic 2-3 time already?

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I've never talked about Girls with you.

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No, but we've talked about not needing to absolutely love a show to be willing to watch it, especially if you significant other likes it and you like spending time with her, as well as the difference between shows worth focusing on with no distractions vs shows you can do other things during.

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I didn't know Girls was one of those shows, and from your description it sounded like it was always bad.

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I watched True Blood, a show that sucked since the first season, b/c my s/o liked it. Comes with the territory.

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My wife watched all 6 seasons of Girls but I was so disgusted by it it became a show she'd watch while was way on the other side of the house listening to records or whatever.  I couldn't stand to even be within earshot of that garbage.

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10 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

I watched True Blood, a show that sucked since the first season, b/c my s/o liked it.

 

Well, it's a show about vampires. Of course it sucks...

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36 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

 

Well, it's a show about vampires. Of course it sucks...

 

Well under that logic I guess you could argue that Interstellar, a movie about black holes, sucks as well.

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They're extremely powerful cosmic vacuums. So in other words, nothing sucks more than Interstellar

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7 minutes ago, Quintus said:

So in other words, nothing sucks more than Interstellar

 

Clearly you haven't seen Kingdom of the Crystal Skull or Star Trek Beyond.

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There isn't one. Both films just suck. ;)

 

EDIT: Didn't all those ruins get sucked into some kind of vortex at the end of KOTS? 

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17 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

I watched True Blood, a show that sucked since the first season, b/c my s/o liked it. Comes with the territory.

 

Oh come on now, the first season wasn't that bad. Actually presented a decent murder mystery, and had some good world building. It all went quickly to shit after that, though. 

 

17 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

My wife watched all 6 seasons of Girls but I was so disgusted by it it became a show she'd watch while was way on the other side of the house listening to records or whatever.  I couldn't stand to even be within earshot of that garbage.

 

I gave up on Outlander after we watched the first few episodes together. Just not a show for me. You didn't miss anything by giving up on Girls, the main characters all remained insufferable narcissists until the bitter end. 

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2 hours ago, Jay said:

 

Oh come on now, the first season wasn't that bad. Actually presented a decent murder mystery, and had some good world building. It all went quickly to shit after that, though. 

 

Sorry...that's what I meant, since (after) the first season, not including it. My bad. I thought the first season was pretty good. As you said, captivating murder mystery, world building, and I thought the whole thing had a nice Southern Gothic feel to it. It was with season two the show started to become ridiculous.  By the end it was just self-parody.

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I'm not a grammar Nazi, but even I know it means "to include".

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2 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

Sorry...that's what I meant, since (after) the first season, not including it. My bad. I thought the first season was pretty good. As you said, captivating murder mystery, world building, and I thought the whole thing had a nice Southern Gothic feel to it. It was with season two the show started to become ridiculous.  By the end it was just self-parody.

 

Ah, cool, yup totally agreed.  Self-parody is a good way to describe the silly depths the later seasons got into.

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The first season was camp as well (in the beginning I really had to adjust to it before I could appreciate it) with a little bit of Twin Peaks thrown into the mix but the series increasingly suffered from the 'We need more of everything' disease. I gave up after three seasons, I think.

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You think True Blood is like Twin Peaks? 

Very funny, Alex.

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I never really said True Detective was like Twin Peaks, but you accused me of that.

 

Interesting isnt it?

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Context, Steef. You didn't recognize Twin Peaks' influence in other shows except for True Detective. Now that is interesting.

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I never said anything of the sort, that's a classic AlexCremers inference.

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He literally pulls nonsense and fallacy about people out of thin air doesn't he, it's the dude's entire shtick here, it's been like that as far back as I can remember. I mean, he must still believe people are fooled by it, otherwise why would he do it? 

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It was quite amusing back in the day, when Morlock could be bothered to counter his "arguments".

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I know, but nearly a decade later of the same routine it really starts to wear a bit thin. Predictability humdrum.

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23 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

I never said anything of the sort, that's a classic AlexCremers inference.

 

I'm relieved to hear that.  Well, Quint was all over the thread and because I don't see his posts I might have misinterpreted something. 

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