Delorean90 42 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Yeah, there are numerous things in that statement that are just colliding into a massive "Wha...?" in my head.Koray, you have heard Silvestri's material for POTC...that was never recorded? And it sucks? Mmmmkay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I have heard it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 And you think Zimmer & co's results were better than Silvestri's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Interesting, Silvestri said in past interviews nothing was recorded, no demo's existed and he basically threw out his early sketches.However I find it hard to believe, given Silvestri's body of work compared to Zimmer's, that it would be worse than Hansy's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I have heard it, yes.How do you know it was real? How do you know it wasn't some other score that somebody labeled as Silvestri's POTC just to fool people?For example, there are supposed boots of Howard Shore's King Kong floating around, but in reality they are all just John Frizzell's score to Primeval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I think it was obvious Howard Shore didn't compose that disguised King Kong boot. When I first listened to that I was like "WTF?"I don't know if it is real, all I have is a 2 and a half minute "theme." It sounds like something Danny Elfman would do. It has a pretty bad chorus and is a waltz similar to Zimmer's theme for Jack, but it's all dreary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I think it was obvious Howard Shore didn't compose that disguised King Kong boot. When I first listened to that I was like "WTF?"I don't know if it is real, all I have is a 2 and a half minute "theme." It sounds like something Danny Elfman would do. It has a pretty bad chorus and is a waltz similar to Zimmer's theme for Jack, but it's all dreary.I think you have the theme for the Paris Disneyland ride of Pirates... That circulates as a fake "rejected" theme for POTC...If it has an organ and a "friend like me" in the trumpets, it's definetly the ride theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I recall an organ somewhere in the beginning. That's probably it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 So take back what you said about Silvestri, you big jerk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I didn't say anything about Silvestri. I said this music sucked under the impression that it was Silvestri. The music still sucks and Silvestri is a decent composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 But then again, "Pickled Heads" seems too rambunctious for Titus (I never saw it, but I cannot possibly imagine what kind of scene it would accompany)You would be surprised...-Chris, highly recommending the great film that is "Titus"... the music ans the movie follow the same artistic vision, which in turn is similar to Shakespeare's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I didn't say anything about Silvestri. I said this music sucked under the impression that it was Silvestri. The music still sucks and Silvestri is a decent composer.Oh, only teasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 A couple of updates:LAND OF THE LOST - Michael Giacchino(Varese Sarabande - 23 June - Pushed Back from 9 June!)1. Swamp And Circumstance (1:25)2. The Lighter Side Of Archaeology (1:03)3. Food Coma For Thought (1:01)4. A Routine Expedition (:48)5. The Greatest Earthquake Ever Known (3:12)6. Matt Lauer Can Suck It (1:22)7. Chaka Chasedown (:43)8. The Ones That Got Away (4:17)9. Enik Calls For Marshall (1:16)10. Sleestak Attack (2:01)11. Enik The Altrusian (3:20)12. The Cosmic Lost And Found (1:34)13. When Piss On Your Head Is A Bad Idea (3:54)14. A New Marshall In Town (1:37)15. Pterodactyl Ptemper Ptantrum (:42)16. The Crystal Cave (1:43)17. In Search Of ... Holly (1:34)18. Undercover Sleestak (2:18)19. Never Trust A Dude In A Tunic (4:17)20. If You Don’t Make It, It’s Your Own Damn Vault (2:40)21. Holly Mad As Sin (:50)22. Sleestak Showdown (:53)23. Stakbusters (2:33)24. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT (1:27)25. Crystal Clear (2:31)26. Mystery Cave Reunion (1:22)27. Ready And Will (1:36)28. End Credits Can Suck It! (3:26)29. Pop Goes The Sleestak (:16)Bonus Tracks:30. A Routine Expedition (Version 1) (:50)31. The Devil’s Canyon Mystery Cave (Version 1) (2:04)32. Crystal Clear (Film Version) (2:19)ICE AGE: DAWN OF THE DINOSAURS - John Powell(Varese Sarabande - 23 June)1. Code Blue (1:44)2. Pregnant (1:56)3. Leaving The Herd (1:50)4. The Cavern (:33)5. Magic Eggs (:13)6. Egg Roll (2:08)7. The Cliff (:19)8. Sid’s Kids (1:36)9. Nest (1:22)10. Playground (1:34)11. Scrat Finds Furry Love* (:41)12. Momma (3:38)13. Entry To Lost World (1:36)14. Dinosaur Vista (:34)15. Meet Buck (2:59)16. Flower of Death (2:49)17. Nose Job (1:35)18. Trek (1:00)19. Chasm of Death (:22)20. Big Smelly Crack (3:10)21. We shall raise them Vegetarian (2:20)22. Campfire Stories (1:19)23. Flashback (:59)24. Nite Nite (:45)25. You’ll Never Tango* (:48)26. Herd Crossing (:37)27. Plates of Woe (3:58)28. Battle Cry (:16)29. Buck’s Theme (:38)30. Battles (4:05)31. Over The Falls (:13)32. Rescues (3:33)33. Alone Again† Performed by Chad Fischer (1:54)34. To The Portal (:54)35. Rudy Fight (2:12)36. Farewell (1:42)37. Out Of This World (:33)38. Buck Returns (1:08)39. Welcome To The Ice Age (1:58)40. At Home With The Scrats* (:26)41. The Call Of The Siren Acorn‡ (:16)42. True Love For Our Hero‡ (:23)43. End Credits (7:00)44. You’ll Never Find Another Love Like Mine Performed by Lou Rawls (4:26)HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE - Nicholas Hooper(New Line Records - July 14)1. Opening2. In Noctem3. The Story Begins4. Ginny5. Snape & the Unbreakable Vow6. Wizard Wheezes7. Dumbledore's Speech8. Living Death9. Into the Pensieve10. The Book11. Ron s Victory12. Harry & Hermione13. School!14. Malfoy's Mission15. The Slug Party16. Into the Rushes17. Farewell Aragog18. Dumbledore's Foreboding19. Of Love & War20. When Ginny Kissed Harry21. Slughorn's Confession22. Journey to the Cave23. The Drink of Despair24. Inferi in the Firestorm25. The Killing of Dumbledore26. Dumbledore's Farewell27. The Friends28. The Weasley StompI'll be purchasing all of these as I'm high on Michael Giacchino, love Powell's work for The Meltdown and am eager to give Hooper a chance to prove himself worthy of Deathly Hallows. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Count me in for the Giacchino and Powell. I'll need to hear Half-Blood Prince first before I buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 Sorry, I confused that. Half-Blood Prince is the latest Potter movie; what I meant was that I'll be listening to HBP to see whether I want to hear Hooper score Deathly Hallows. Of course, I'm still rooting for Johnny to come back to bat(on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Wow, I'd completely forgotten about HBP. I wonder if I'll continue to have every Potter score in my collection? OOTP was a decent effort from the rookie.I see they're not afraid of spoilers in the track titles. But all of us who have read the book know what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 In other news, Public Enemies now has a Track listing on Amazon.com1. Ten Million Slaves Otis Taylor2. Chicago Shake The Bruce Fowler Big Band3. Drive To Bohemia Elliot Goldenthal4. Love Me or Leave Me Billie Holiday5. Billie's Arrest Elliot Goldenthal6. Am I Blue? Billie Holiday7. Love In The Dunes Elliot Goldenthal8. Bye Bye Blackbird Diana Krall9. Phone Call To Billie Elliot Goldenthal10. Nasty Letter Otis Taylor11. Plane To Chicago Elliot Goldenthal12. Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah Indian Bottom Association, Old Regular Baptists13. Gold Coast Restaurant Elliot Goldenthal14. The Man I Love Billie Holiday15. JD Dies Elliot Goldenthal16. Dark Was The Night, Cold Was The Ground Blind Willie Johnson Though I am disappointed in the appearance of songs, I am happy to know that is primarily an Elliot Goldenthal album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Mann uses songs the way other people use score, so I'm not that bothered. Also, Billie Holiday is one of my favourite singers ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I have to admit that the only Michael Mann film I have seen is Heat, so I will have to take your word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Mann always uses a well mixture of score from multiple composers and songs.What the hell is The Bruce Fowler Big Band? Mann going back to the RCP roots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Though I am disappointed in the appearance of songs, I am happy to know that is primarily an Elliot Goldenthal album.I wouldn't call 7 out of 16 "primarily". But we don't know how much score there is in the film - this may be all (or most) there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I think this might just be the case. After all it's a Michael Mann picture.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah, he's very Scorsese in his balance of score and songs. I like that he's always very particular where he puts his songs, and it usually works really well (Iron Butterfly in MANHUNTER, Audioslave in COLLATERAL, Moby/Joy Division in HEAT). It's interesting that he also uses cues from his earlier flicks in some movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Scoring session photos of Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 A friend of myne recently gave me a copy of Powell's "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs" and I must say it's really good! One of the best parts is that is doesn't "additional music by" anywhere, so it's all Powell! Finally! Also I love how he combined Morricone's and Copland's styles in terms of western music.I think I like this soundtrack more than the first, or the second... No, wait... The second, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Additional music hardly means anything. He still has his usual suspects working on the score. I prefer The Meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I haven't heard the music yet, but I look forward to it. However, the album looks like a big bunch of tiny cues which I generally don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I haven't heard the music yet, but I look forward to it. However, the album looks like a big bunch of tiny cues which I generally don't like.Admit it: Williams knows how to produce an album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I haven't heard the music yet, but I look forward to it. However, the album looks like a big bunch of tiny cues which I generally don't like.Admit it: Williams knows how to produce an album!I never denied it. I have issues with some of his albums, but I am fine with the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Yeah, Dawn Of The Dinosaurs has 44 tracks. Most of Powell's animation scores are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Yeah, Dawn Of The Dinosaurs has 44 tracks. Most of Powell's animation scores are like that.What I don't understand is why are they like "cutted". Take for example "True Love for our Hero" and "End Credits". Right at the end of "True Love..." starts the beggining of "End Credits"... It doesn't make any sense. And these happens a lot on Powell's animated soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 They're gapless, so bunches of cues flow right into one another. It's just a format for some scores, I guess to be more precise in naming the cues. Some of Thomas Newman's scores are like that. I don't see the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I find that annoying as well, especially when the track changes in the middle of a cue (like the UE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Whenever that happens, I rip the tracks together as one track. One of the most extreme examples is Gladiator, where I took it from 17 tracks down to 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 What's the point of making it into one track? You're still listening to the same music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Well if you're not using gapless playback then you get an annoying gap...I have a gapless plugin for winamp, but I don't use it all the time, so I also often rip several tracks as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 What's the point? The majority of my listening is done without gapless playback. I don't listen to audio CDs anymore as such, so that's out. I don't own an ipod (yet) so any gapless playback options it has don't do it for me yet. I listen to a CD-R of MP3's in either my car (with gap) or portable MP3-CD player (with gap). After several years of listening to music with gaps at the critical transition parts wherever the track number changes, I got sick of it. Sure, I can listen to FLACs or MP3s using Winamp on a computer with gapless playback, but now I'd need up to four folders of each album -- gapped FLAC, gapless FLAC, gapped MP3, and gapless MP3. Yea, ok, I think I'll do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 One of the most extreme examples is the second track on Twister at about 15 seconds long. Why break that up from another track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Twister lends itself well to combing tracks together, and the packaging even promotes it. The first 4 make up Oklahoma; the next 2 are It's Coming. The next four are The Hunt, then you get the standalone The Damage. After the 2-track Hailstorm Hill, combine 3 for F5. I just wouldn't combine the last two tracks because I really enjoy the Van Halen brothers on Respect the Wind, and I don't want to listen to that goofy William Tell Overture/Oklahoma to get there. But I also have Respect the Wind as a standalone single anyways in with my Van Halen songs, so it's all good.I'm just torn as to why I haven't combined my Twister tracks like I just described yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I'm just torn as to why I haven't combined my Twister tracks like I just described yet.Because there's no point?EDIT: Never mind I forgot there was a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Upcoming score that I am ecited for:"Amelia"Gabriel Yared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 There's nothing in particular I'm looking forward to now. Tuesday was a little disappointing, so now I'm back to barely anything new to listen to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Twister lends itself well to combing tracks together, and the packaging even promotes it. The first 4 make up Oklahoma; the next 2 are It's Coming. The next four are The Hunt, then you get the standalone The Damage. After the 2-track Hailstorm Hill, combine 3 for F5. I just wouldn't combine the last two tracks because I really enjoy the Van Halen brothers on Respect the Wind, and I don't want to listen to that goofy William Tell Overture/Oklahoma to get there. But I also have Respect the Wind as a standalone single anyways in with my Van Halen songs, so it's all good.I'm just torn as to why I haven't combined my Twister tracks like I just described yet.I find the Williams Tell Overture quite fun, so I moved that to the middle of the album, closer to where it actually appears in the film.Also combined about 3 groups of cues together, plus a DVD rip of the scene where they hurriedly leave Meg's house... I love the bit with the guitar with the aerial shot over the landscape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 GI JOE - Silvestri.http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp...2D066%2D980%2D2Looks to be 70+ minutes and performed by the Hollywood Studio Symphony.Although given the Michael Bay styled previews one would wonder how much symphony is in the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 When's the BIG FSM release supposed to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 GI JOE - Silvestri.http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp...2D066%2D980%2D2Looks to be 70+ minutes and performed by the Hollywood Studio Symphony.Although given the Michael Bay styled previews one would wonder how much symphony is in the music.I can't wait to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 70+ minutes with a score recorded in L.A.?Did Varese win the lottery or something?When's the BIG FSM release supposed to happen?Must be soon, it's been mentioned they want it ready for Comic-Con I think.Unless it's early 90s Williams, can't see myself being interested in it, with all the Batman/Trek talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I seriously doubt it will be Batman or Star Trek.More than likely it will be something along the lines of Gremlins or even BTTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hmm, I thought BTTF had long been shot down. I'd probably buy that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I believe Lukas said it was going to be a "Real Holy Grail". It's been released before but FSM is going to pay the re-use fees, add more music, and make it unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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