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[Yavar Moradi 2,585]

38 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said:

Yeah, I knew about that Bartok inspiration.  Just different enough not to ruffle my feathers, but clearly it formed the basis of Horner's opening.

 

Yeah but combined with all of the Prokofiev (listen to the October Cantata clip I posted, for one example) it starts to add up in distracting fashion. Still, I'd buy an expanded Land Before Time in a heartbeat. Perhaps Balto is the first of several Universal animated Horner expansions....

 

Yavar

[Lockdown 238]

I'm hoping for Willow as well. But I know the titles coming aren't it. At least not from Intrada.

[Faleel 5,331]

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=80454#p80454

Roger Feigelson said:

I almost forgot! We have a second release. Two scores on one CD. Same composer (and a class act as well). Both TV movies from the mid-80s. One featuring an actress I had such a crush on back in high school... Okay, TMI.

[publicist 4,643]

On 10/27/2018 at 12:12 AM, Yavar Moradi said:

Yeah but combined with all of the Prokofiev (listen to the October Cantata clip I posted, for one example) it starts to add up in distracting fashion. Still, I'd buy an expanded Land Before Time in a heartbeat. Perhaps Balto is the first of several Universal animated Horner expansions....

 

I am only bothered by the Peter and the Wolf stuff, the more lyrical stuff doesn't bother me. One buys these for updated (note how i din't say *bettered*) sound quality.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Preferring Balto to LBT is an odd but intriguing viewpoint, I do declare.

[NL197 368]

Doug's Corner

10/27/2018

Ok so this time it’s the 80’s and the 90’s. Two scores on one CD from two Fox TV movies from the 80’s by the same popular composer plus 1 greatly expanded 79-minute CD from a Universal film score released in the 90’s by another popular composer. Both artists notched Academy Awards into their belts during their highly successful careers. Artwork, contents and audio samples will be posted on our site Monday eve, October 29. Orders will begin shipping on Tuesday the 30th.

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f?fbclid=IwAR3_2_M9ZgkfmkyjZOrL78viyUVrf-hTT4xInkv2zOvbJ0KK98hFYxPo1hE

[Laserschwert 473]

The second one could be Apollo 13?

[crocodile 7,983]

1 minute ago, Laserschwert said:

The second one could be Apollo 13?

Nah, they already confirmed it isn't. But it's almost 100% Balto by James Horner. It fits all the clues.

 

Karol

[Laserschwert 473]

Oh, I thought this was already the next batch after Balto, my bad.

[crocodile 7,983]

No, this is about tomorrow's releases. We'll know more about the next batch around 8-9th of November. 

 

Karol

[publicist 4,643]

I don't need anything of A13 that i haven't had since 1999. The animation movies and Willow have much higher priority (it's also more varied music).

[crocodile 7,983]

There's one more Horner to go this year...at least there was supposed to be one. Willow seems like a perfect pre-Christmas title.

 

Karol

[publicist 4,643]

Jup.

[NL197 368]

For someone who hates Horner as much, it’s curious that one of his more borrowed scores is so highly sought. 

[Wojo 2,453]

Because it's easier to listen to it for the sake of doing so, as opposed to hunting down all the sources he borrowed from and listen to them instead. 

[TownerFan 4,983]

On 10/26/2018 at 11:30 PM, Yavar Moradi said:

There are bits of Cantata for the October Revolution, Romeo & Juliet, and even Peter and the Wolf all throughout Land Before Time.

 

Horner pillaged Prokofiev's October Cantata also in Willow (General Kael's music) and mostly in Red Heat.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

And he made them better!  

[Disco Stu 15,495]

5 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

And he made them better!  

 

This is the look Sergei is giving you.  Somehow both withering and bemused

 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Notice me, senpai Sergei.

[publicist 4,643]

Willow is probably the only one where Horner's lame attempt to rationalize the loads of uncredited thefts makes some sense: the sheer amount of quotes and how effortless they play off against each other (different idioms/musical epochs) is masterful in a homage-y kind of way. 

 

Many others are not. Simple as that. And of course they are not better than the source (in some cases they are the same). They are just put behind a big, splashy fantasy movie et voilá: suddenly they make sense! *cf unnamed moviefan#459

[Naïve Old Fart 9,493]

On 10/28/2018 at 2:19 PM, NL197 said:

For someone who hates Horner as much, it’s curious that one of his more borrowed scores is so highly sought. 

You want "borrowed"?

I listened to COLLAGE, the other day. I thought it was a whole bunch of musical outtakes, from STAR TREK:II. Dreadful.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

He made them better by making them Hornerific! 

[publicist 4,643]

I would rather think that he honed some of his own creations to better effect after the third or so incarnation. He certainly didn't with Prokoviev or Shostakovich. 

[Frank Vincent 226]

And the new releases are:

 

Balto (James Horner)

Sin of Innocence / Love Thy Neighbor (Georgers Delerue)

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

[NL197 368]

http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/balto-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/

[publicist 4,643]

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11659/.f

 

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11658/.f?sc=13&category=22848

 

Lush October at Intrada...it's just better with the covers.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I'm happy to have Balto now, believe me, but....it's bizarre that the only horror release this month was Varese's Dracula!

[mstrox 6,643]

And it's not shipping until mid November!

[Jay 37,281]

November 5th is MID November?

[crocodile 7,983]

Oh for a moment I thought you guys were talking about Balto!

 

Karol

[mstrox 6,643]

Mid enough!

[crocodile 7,983]

A clue for two next week's releases:

 

Quote

 

One is the premiere release of a score to a family adventure from the early '90s. You may not have ever heard of it. The second (if it comes in on time) is a legendary release of an early '80s adventure/western -- straight reissue of the original LP. That's all there was folks.

 

 

Karol

[Disco Stu 15,495]

No ideas on either of those

[Jay 37,281]

Ditto.  No ideas come to mind.

[crocodile 7,983]

FSM people suggest Legend of the Lone Ranger by John Barry as the second title.

 

The first one...is there any unreleased James Horner from the early 90's?

 

Karol

[Jay 37,281]

Nothing that looks like a "Family Adventure" to me

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Horner#1990s

[Disco Stu 15,495]

A Far Off Place fits that description, but is of course already released by Intrada.

[crocodile 7,983]

Well maybe there's hope for Willow to be released by the end of this year then. Last chance to commemorate the 30th anniversary.

 

Karol

[Jay 37,281]

God I hope Willow is in the works.

 

 

~

 

Looks like an FSMer figured out the 90s family adventure title.  By Richard Band:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_(1993_film)

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Isn’t Willow’s album something like 70-ish minutes? What do you want, 30-second filler cues?

[Jay 37,281]

The remaining, unreleased cues are all multiple minutes long each

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I’m sure those cues can be heard in other Horner scores.  

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Yes, there's a whole section of the movie missing.  Between "Escape From the Tavern" and their, er, escape from the snowy mountain village (the beginning of "Canyon of Mazes").

 

I did those isolated score videos using the OST, so I have a reasonably good grasp of what's there and what's not now.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Anyhoo, perhaps the 90’s family adventure is The Witches by Stanley Myers?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

That would be...interesting.

[Jay 37,281]

Here's the lengths per some wicked old DVD rips I've had on a hard drive for like 2 decades or something

01-highaldwyn (1:44)
02-Death-Dog-Attack (2:17)
03-general-kael (1:13)
04-madmartigan (1:10)
05-cherlindrea (5:34)
06-inthetavern-1 (1:15)
07-dustofbrokenheart (0:28)
08-inthetavern-2 (1:45)
09-thesearchgoeson (0:32)
10-finraziel (3:42)
11-capture (1:48)
12-trekinsnow (1:13)
13-snowyescape (7:52)
 

TOTAL TIME - 30:33

 

All the actual cue names are known now thanks to Omni's release of the complete sheet music.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

That last one, track 13 I believe is the most major missing music.

[Jay 37,281]

8 straight minutes of glorious Horner

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Oh no! The album left off a 28-second cue?! Horner, you monster! Now I’ll never be able to listen to that (dreadfully overrated) score knowing 28 seconds is missing!