Label Threads The Official Intrada Thread

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Of course when I see "early 80s score we've only re-issued the original LP of" my first hope is Monsignor but that obviously wouldn't take up 3 CDs!

 

Just now, Jay said:

Yes, it was always there.

 

Oops!  Sorry bout that.

[Jay 37,287]

Maybe the 90s title is Poledouris' Jungle Book?  Not sure there's anything on the OST that wouldn't be able to be licensed again, though

[Disco Stu 15,495]

How much of Silvestri's score for Forrest Gump is unreleased?  I have no idea.  But that one has so many pop songs it would be a licensing nightmare and would probably take up more than 2 CDs?  I dunno.

[Jay 37,287]

But Forrest Gump also had a separate score album with no pop songs on it

 

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/5843/

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Well he didn't say it hadn't ever had a score release but yeah it probably wouldn't count as greatly expanded.  Your Apollo 13 guess is certainly plausible.

[Jay 37,287]

Exactly, the Forrest Gump score CD was already either completely or nearly complete; There isn't enough score written for that to "Greatly expand" it to 2CDs.

 

Horner's Apollo 13 is juuuuuuuust long enough it could spill over to a second CD, BUT I don't think that's the title he's talking about.

[A. A. Ron 1,738]

Apollo 13 could be 2 discs if they include the album as disc 2. There was a dialogue free version -- the FYC promo.

[Jay 37,287]

There would be absolutely no reason in the world to do that

[Disco Stu 15,495]

His use of the word "epic" is throwing me.  When I hear the words "mid-90s epic" two movies jump to mind immediately: Braveheart and The English Patient.  The former was obviously already expanded by LLL.  I know nothing about Gabriel Yared's score for the latter or its OST.  I saw the movie so long ago.

[Jay 37,287]

Yea, I'm really stumped by the 90s title!

Almost every "epic film" form the mid 90s (which should be 1993-1996 unless Roger misspoke) has already had a score expansion of some kind, or wouldn't have any tracks on their OST that wouldn't be able ot be licensed again.  hmmm.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Does Muppet Treasure Island count as epic?  

[Jay 37,287]

Possibly but there's no way that score is long enough to fill two CDs.

 

I  considered THE ROCK but can't imagine any of those tracks would be unable to be licensed again

 

The FSM groupthink will figure it out but their forum software is once again down right now

[A. A. Ron 1,738]

14 minutes ago, Jay said:

There would be absolutely no reason in the world to do that

 

Except that the official album program has never been released sans dialogue and the mixes are supposedly different throughout. Also, maybe they want Thor to buy a copy? There's microedits here and there and there's nothing wrong with a shorter program, y'know?

[Jay 37,287]

Hmmm, OK, maybe they would do it that way.  I mean, I certainly HOPE it's Apollo 13 - I LOVE that score its one of my favorite Horners, I just feel like Roger would have described it differently.  I dunno.

 

What about The Fifth Element?  1997 is outside the "mid 90s" range, but Roger has messed up in that regard before, and maybe Aknot Wot, the Ruby Rap, or Little Light of Love verisons are not included?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

What about True Lies?

[Jay 37,287]

I don't know how long that score is, would it be long enough to fill up 2 CDs?  Would Roger call it "epic"?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

It's certainly a long movie, haha.  I dunno if "epic" is the word I'd use to describe it though.

 

I'm just grasping at straws anyway

[Jay 37,287]

Yea, "epic" is the really confusing part of his clues!

Maybe when he said mid 90s he was mistaken.  Maybe its mid 80s or mid 00s?

 

 

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LOL - I was right!

 

Roger says:

 

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Sorry, I made an error and meant to say '00s

 

That changes everything!

[Romão 2,274]

The 3 cd is most certainly Shogun. Looking forward to it

[Disco Stu 15,495]

57 minutes ago, Jay said:

Yea, "epic" is the really confusing part of his clues!

Maybe when he said mid 90s he was mistaken.  Maybe its mid 80s or mid 00s?

 

 

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LOL - I was right!

 

Roger says:

 

 

That changes everything!

 

Ah!

 

Never hurts to start with Disney films since it's Intrada.

 

Could it be the first Narnia?  There were a few crappy pop songs on that OST.  No idea how much score is missing.

[mstrox 6,647]

I think that's a solid guess.

[Jay 37,287]

Yea that seems to fit

 

01 The Blitz, 1940 (2:32)
02 Evacuating London (3:38)
03 The Wardrobe (2:54)
04 Lucy Meets Mr. Tumnus (4:10)
05 A Narnia Lullaby (1:12)
06 The White Witch (5:30)
07 From Western Woods to Beaversdam (3:34)
08 Father Christmas (3:20)
09 To Aslan's Camp (3:12)
10 Knighting Peter (3:48)
11 The Stone Table (8:06)
12 The Battle (7:08)
13 Only the Beginning of the Adventure (5:32)
14 Can't Take It In (4:42) Performed by Imogen Heap
15 Wunderkind (5:19) Performed by Alanis Morissette
16 Winter Light (4:13) Performed by Tim Finn
17 Where (1:54) Performed by Lisbeth Scott

 

Maybe 2 out of the last 4 pop tracks couldn't be licensed.

 

 

Another possibility is Horner's TROY score, though I dunno why a "couple" of tracks from the OST can't be licensed.  If he said "one" track, I'd assume it was the Groban song

 

01 3200 Years Ago (3:36)
02 Troy (5:01)
03 Achilles Leads the Myrmidons (8:30)
04 The Temple of Poseidon (3:28)
05 The Night Before (3:28)
06 The Greek Army and It's Defeat (9:38)
07 Briseis and Achilles (5:19)
08 The Trojans Attack (5:01)
09 Hector's Death (3:27)
10 The Wooden Horse and The Sacking of Troy (10:02)
11 Through the Fires, Achilles... and Immortality (13:27)
12 Remember Me (4:18) Performed by Josh Groban with Tanja Tzarovska

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I'm not the biggest fan of Gregson-Williams' Narnia score but there were a few cues I really liked.  I'd be interested to hear any unreleased music.

 

I will say, though, it seems like a release that should wait til closer to Christmastime.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

 

The OST was a poor representation of the score. Lots of cool unreleased material in there. Never checked the sessions leak?

 

 

I haven't.  Mostly because I was so underwhelmed by the OST.  I'll also say I wasn't the biggest fan of the movie back in 2005, and I was a huge fan of the novels and the BBC series going in.  I'm totally willing to revisit this one.  I still have a lot of affection for the world of Narnia.

 

3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

Wait: what about Kingdom Of Heaven?

 

No licensed songs, right?

[Jay 37,287]

3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

Wait: what about Kingdom Of Heaven?

 

Like Troy, I can't imagine any of the score tracks wouldn't be able to be licensed again.

 

I wonder if the answer is Troy, and Roger just meant to say "one" track can't be licensed again (the Groban song), but accidentally said "a couple", like how he originally messed up the decade.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I just can't imagine they couldn't license a song that Horner wrote for the film.

[Jay 37,287]

But why wouldn't they be able to license two of the score tracks, either?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

That's why I'm saying I don't think it's Troy (based on the current information at least).

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Unless he's really really loosely using the word "epic"  I can't think of much else that fits the clues.

[Jay 37,287]

I'm not that familiar with the Troy score - are all of the tracks 100% composed by Horner, or are some of the tracks in the main program licensed from somewhere else?

 

One poster on FSM said some of tracks feature vocals that were originally recorded for Yared's rejected score, maybe that's the issue?  The 2CD set only features versions of those cues without vocals, and using a new name?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Is FSM still down?  I'm sure they'll have had it figured out by now.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I like how we keep referring to it as Narnia.  I do because who wants to type out "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" and TLTWATW looks stupid 

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

You said twat.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

1 minute ago, Marian Schedenig said:

You said twat.

 

CS Lewis was a dirty old sod!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I just looked at the FSM discussion for this and I gotta say, we come off better.  Most of the members there are willfully ignoring Roger's clues and just guessing whatever.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

But seriously, there is NOTHING of Yared's work on the Troy OST.

 

Heh, I see the one insisting it's Troy is azahid, actually.  A JWFan!

 

Maybe I'll be eating crow next week, but I really don't think it's Troy.  I'm not completely sold on it being Narnia, either, which I would describe as a "mid-00s fantasy" not a "mid-00s epic"

[Jay 37,287]

Are two of the tracks on the Troy OST not used in the film, maybe never intended to be used in the film?  IE, are the tracks "Troy" and "Briseis and Achilles" concert arrangements?  Maybe there is some weird legal situation with them first appearing on the album instead of the film or something.  Or maybe its the Groban song and one of those.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I suppose there have been stranger licensing snafus, but that would be pretty weird.

[Jay 37,287]

With "epic" Roger is describing the film and not the score, so I think only "Troy" "Alexander" and "Kingdom of Heaven" fit.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Braveheart?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

What if he stretched the definition of mid-00s to include 2007 and it's 300 and the licensing situation is because of Goldenthal plagiarism?!

 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Jay 37,287]

Yea, my bad

[Richard Penna 3,670]

What's not 'epic' about Narnia? I think it fits.

 

I'm a little iffy about the two non-licensable tracks though - it would most likely be two of the songs, but why would Roger specifically point that out at this stage, if it has nothing to do with the score? A score expansion that doesn't have the (usually unrelated) credits song isn't really something to write home about.