Label Threads The Official Intrada Thread

[NL197 368]

Honestly I hope Roger doesn't give any more detail. Really forces one to Think McFly, Think!

[publicist 4,643]

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11535/.f

 

 

It's droll!

[Jay 37,281]

Didn't Roger claim two titles were coming out at once?  The mid 90s bio pic and this one?  Oh well.

[fommes 153]

This must be the bio pic then. The stakeout really happened!

[OneBuckFilms 319]

Both titles were mid-90s, and originally the Biopic was coming out first. Then they announced it was dealyed by the manufacturer and both would come out, then this mid-90s sequel came in early.

 

Between this and the *disc2 not included error, their manufacturer seems to have some serious organisational and communications issues.

[Jay 37,281]

There are less and less pressing plants existing on the planet all the time, and the ones that are left don't have to be competitive because they know there are no alternatives (most of these specialty label CDs are contractually required to be pressed by a plant connected to the film studio in some way)

[OneBuckFilms 319]

And now there's a "known manufacturing issue" with CD 2 of *batteries, and they are working with the factory to get a fix.

 

Oh well, listen to what I can until a fix arrives. Plenty of other goodies to bide the time.

[Wojo 2,453]

Will they release Stakeout next now that they've released the sequel score? 

[Richard Penna 3,669]

7 hours ago, Jay said:

There are less and less pressing plants existing on the planet all the time, and the ones that are left don't have to be competitive because they know there are no alternatives (most of these specialty label CDs are contractually required to be pressed by a plant connected to the film studio in some way)

 

I often wish the labels were able to do these releases digitally. Very few of us (I suspect) actually need to have them on CD and these plant issues seem to make the whole think harder.

 

And yes, I know that for some people, holding the CD, looking at its cover art and having a nice booklet are all stuff they enjoy (me too to an extent), but that sort of physical nostalgia should never come before the actual practicalities of releasing the music.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

36 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

And yes, I know that for some people, holding the CD, looking at its cover art and having a nice booklet are all stuff they enjoy (me too to an extent), but that sort of physical nostalgia should never come before the actual practicalities of releasing the music.

That's not the reason. I want CDs, because I want to HAVE the music - whenever and wherever I am. And it's WAV and not shitty MP3.

[Richard Penna 3,669]

Same with me, absolutely. But I hate to think that there are almost certainly scores we don't get because it's not worth pressing the CDs and a download would be the only economical way to do it.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

The physical copy is not the financial barrier of such releases, is it?

[bollemanneke 3,337]

CDs are becoming much more important to me lately. It's really nice to be able to turn off that damn computer, put something in a player and just sit back.

[NL197 368]

On the FSM board, LLL said they make virtually nothing whatsoever from any sort of digital release, as they just don't have any real stake in that and in those rare times they do, it's such a loss it's not remotely worth it. I can't recall what page but I think it was a Transformers score they cited as an example. 

[Arpy 4,145]

Well you have to consider that the consumers of film scores are also collectors and these labels gear their releases to those people.

 

Isn't it already the case that more scores are released digitally sans any form of physical media, and maybe vinyl if you're lucky?

[Richard Penna 3,669]

I also see it from the perspective that non-US customers have to wait a week+ and pay almost as much as the CD in shipping. It just feels a somewhat old fashioned way to deliver music.

 

And when a pressing error results in thousands of CDs being thrown away, that I have a problem with.

 

I completely understand the problems with digital business models. I just see a lot of downsides to releasing CDs these days.

[Corellian2019 383]

So has the biopic title been delayed indefinitely?

[Frank Vincent 226]

From the Intrada messqage board:

 

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The delayed release arrives! The subject of which is honored on a statue that can be found in Central Park in New York City.

 

Balto?

[Wojo 2,453]

Ghostbusters? 

[Corellian2019 383]

Most likely Balto. Which is great for fans of the score, but I was personally hoping that Intrada had somehow made an inroad that LLL couldn't regarding scores composed by Goldenthal for WB, i.e. Cobb or Michael Collins. Ah well. Can't do anything about bad blood

[Amer 2,080]

So that's James Horner #2 from the remaining slated releases. Now hoping that we get Apollo 13 in the coming months.

 

 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I'd be surprised if Balto gets the specialty treatment before either Fievel scores, but what the hey, I'd be game for that one too.

[A. A. Ron 1,738]

17 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

I'd be surprised if Balto gets the specialty treatment before either Fievel scores, but what the hey, I'd be game for that one too.

 

Surprised? But there is a statue of Balto in Central Park. It's pretty much a guaranteed title after that clue.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

A Balto in Central Park

[Amer 2,080]

11 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

A Balto in Central Park

 

Amer in Central Park

 

9 years ago!

[crocodile 7,982]

That sounds like Balto from 1995 as other have pointed out. I'm happy if that's the case.

 

"Biopic". That was one sneaky clue! Well played, Intrada! 😂

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

The album plays fine as is despite missing about twenty minutes, so the added stuff wouldn't exactly revolutionize what's already a good score, it'd just...make a good score last longer! And obviously, that's a splendid thing indeed.

[crocodile 7,982]

I haven't got the album and it has been on my list forever. It's is a very good James Horner. I'm really happy.

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

A worthy finale to the legacy that is Horner's cartoon music.

[crocodile 7,982]

Yeah, he wrote some of his best scores for those types of films. I'm not as convinced by some of his "adult" scores. There's often something terribly melodramatic about those. He's really chewing the soundscape with those, if that makes sense.

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I think the only non-cartoon Horner score I really truly love is Aliens. 

[crocodile 7,982]

1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said:

I think the only non-cartoon Horner score I really truly love is Aliens. 

Oh I didn't mean those types of scores. I meant his drama...which are usually a drama.

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Before anyone smacks me, I should clarify that there are plenty, PAH-LENTY, of non-cartoon Horner scores besides Aliens that I LIKE.

But LOVE is a whole other matter, baby! 

[crocodile 7,982]

Horner was always my "it's complicated".

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I'm kind of a weird Horner fan, in that I don't give a shit about any of the scores I'm told I'm supposed to care about. Who the hell voluntarily listens to Willow when Land Before Time kicks its ass? 

[publicist 4,643]

Balto is a bit heavy on Don Davis-influence but entertaining enough. No rush I feel. 

Just now, kaseykockroach said:

I'm kind of a weird Horner fan, in that I don't give a shit about any of the scores I'm told I'm supposed to care about. Who the hell voluntarily listens to Willow when Land Before Time kicks its ass? 

 

Both are much, much superior.

[Incanus 5,713]

Hmmm I haven't heard a note from Balto. Would you guys recommend it?

[publicist 4,643]

Just listen to it. All on YT.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

 

1 minute ago, Incanus said:

Hmmm I haven't heard a note from Balto. Would you guys recommend it?

Balto's indeed fairly minor in the Horner library, and I assume you'll shudder and exclaim "Eww, cartoon music! Mickey-mousing! No thank YOU! Give me Apollo 13 instead! Hmph!", because you're not me who likes Mickey Mouse (but prefers Donald Duck because I'm a badass). 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Are you on somekinda medication we need to know about?

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

My doctor insists I ingest this every morning.

 

[NL197 368]

Everyone wants Willow. It’s one of those things that I just shrug and think ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Me, I want Fievel. 

But Balto's good too!

[NL197 368]

There are indeed cats in America. The streets were not paved with cheese. That film was all lies. They lied to children. 

And never say never was a thing way before Bieber came along. 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Cats are one of the few truly wonderful things about America!

[Yavar Moradi 2,585]

11 hours ago, Incanus said:

Hmmm I haven't heard a note from Balto. Would you guys recommend it?

 

Yes. There are some less mickey-mousey elements from time to time, but then there's amazing stuff like the last few cues...

 

If you don't like that cue, definitely don't bother ordering.  Personally it might be my favorite Horner score for an animated film (and it was his last). The Land Before Time is also great of course but I find the Prokofiev quotes somewhat distracting, and it's honestly just as mickey-mousey at times.

 

Yavar

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Willow is fun but Krull is better.

[SteveMc 2,674]

3 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

The Land Before Time is also great of course but I find the Prokofiev quotes somewhat distracting, and it's honestly just as mickey-mousey at times.

For me, it does not really sound any more mickey-mousy than a ballet would.  What are some examples of the Prokofiev quotes?

[Yavar Moradi 2,585]

There are bits of Cantata for the October Revolution, Romeo & Juliet, and even Peter and the Wolf all throughout Land Before Time. Here's a particularly blatant lift:

 

Also check out the second minute or so of this Bartok ballet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEijXHFY1w

 

To one familiar with these pieces, Horner's little quotes are distracting. I still really like Land Before Time, and Balto isn't free of this stuff, but somehow I find the quotes in LBT more prevalent/distracting/bothersome.

 

Yavar

[SteveMc 2,674]

Yeah, I knew about that Bartok inspiration.  Just different enough not to ruffle my feathers, but clearly it formed the basis of Horner's opening.