Delorean90 42 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Star Trek.Dave wanted to see it again, and we went. Its a frustrating film, very hard to not like and yet its so poorly conceived, its irratating, and its clear that Abrams has no understanding of how music and film work together, otherwise he would have hired someone decent.Say what you want about Giacchino, but there's just no flippin' way he's less than decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Into the WildMost impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Star Trek.Dave wanted to see it again, and we went. Its a frustrating film, very hard to not like and yet its so poorly conceived, its irratating, and its clear that Abrams has no understanding of how music and film work together, otherwise he would have hired someone decent.DAMN HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Star Trek.Dave wanted to see it again, and we went. Its a frustrating film, very hard to not like and yet its so poorly conceived, its irratating, and its clear that Abrams has no understanding of how music and film work together, otherwise he would have hired someone decent.DAMN HIM!That's mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Into the WildMost impressive.I agree although I don't know if it can stand repeat viewing (Is it as bulletproof as No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood?). It's also a shame the film is somewhat injured by the Eddie Vedder interludes.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 GenovaA nice film from Michael Winterbottom. with strong performances. It was probably a tod too long. Not much happening in it, but a nice character study nontheless.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 TARANTULAHooray for 50s monster movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 yes I do, John Williams, James Horner, James Newton Howard, Howard Shore, Christopher Young(sometimes).He said "modern" composers. Not these tired, old and worn out artisans who write the music autonomously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 TARANTULAHooray for 50s monster movies!Henry Mancini and a young Clint Eastwood as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 James Horner I agree although I don't know if it can stand repeat viewing (Is it as bulletproof as No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood?). It's also a shame the film is somewhat injured by the Eddie Vedder interludes.I thought the songs are great and work very well in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 'C'est la Vie'.....a splendid french family dramedy from 2008, partly impressionistic, presenting it's family story in form of 5 little vignettes, one for every family member. It's a very charming film with the amount of spontaneity and almost improvisational aura i have come to expect from modern french cinema. There are family feuds and reunions, fears and surpirses and some really great sight gags on the way (i. e. a sequence where the mother fails her driving test because of a squirrel which only can be saved by abrupt braking, leading to the opposite behaviour in the next test, which of course culminates with the merciless rundown of a dog - it's cruel but oh-so human). What weighs it down a bit is the accumulation of sad incidences in the last half. We know sad stuff happens but we don't want to see it happen to other people and having to pay for it. As film music fan i also objected to the director plastering this section of the film with indie rock. If you only have a faint memory what a Delerue could bringt to such scenes, it's just sad that no effort was made to raise this stuff out of youth culture, stylistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Into the WildMost impressive.I agree although I don't know if it can stand repeat viewing (Is it as bulletproof as No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood?). It's also a shame the film is somewhat injured by the Eddie Vedder interludes.AlexI thought the songs are great and work very well in the film.It's one of my favorite modern films, although it's too self-indulgent in some parts. And the fact that Eddie Vedder was the one behind the song cycle instead of John Darnielle is one of the biggest crimes of 2007. Otherwise, a very, very impressive achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 As film music fan i also objected to the director plastering this section of the film with indie rock. If you only have a faint memory what a Delerue could bringt to such scenes, it's just sad that no effort was made to raise this stuff out of youth culture, stylistically.C'est la vie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Star Trek.Dave wanted to see it again, and we went. Its a frustrating film, very hard to not like and yet its so poorly conceived, its irratating, and its clear that Abrams has no understanding of how music and film work together, otherwise he would have hired someone decent.It's an amazing film with a great score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I agree although I don't know if it can stand repeat viewing (Is it as bulletproof as No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood?). It's also a shame the film is somewhat injured by the Eddie Vedder interludes.I thought the songs are great and work very well in the film.Me too. Why should it have been John Darnielle instead of Vedder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Up Was great! Not the "best Pixar movie ever" that some are saying, but I enjoyed it throughout. Carl and Elli's love story was heartbreakingThe HangoverWas very funny! Not some huge revelation in comedy like some are saying, but it was certainly enjoyable. Zack Galifianakis was the best part. Some of the plot details are kind of weak if you think about them too much, but enjoying the movie for what it is its a fun timeTerminator SalvationDecent flick. Not the huge pile of shit that most people are saying, but certainly not great either. It was just kind of .... there. Some of the action scenes were pretty good, but if you put ANY deep thought into the plot and motivations of characters and especially Skynet, the whole thing really makes no sense. I dunno.One thing I really don't get is: In T1 and T2, all the future scenes had lasers from both the Terminators / Hunter-Killers and the human resistance. But in this movie it was all old-school bullets. What was up with that? And why did John Connor say "her tapes say nothing about organic machines"......... what? Does he not remember the events of T2 and T3 or something?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 One thing I really don't get is: In T1 and T2, all the future scenes had lasers from both the Terminators / Hunter-Killers and the human resistance. But in this movie it was all old-school bullets.This movie is supposed to take place in 2018 while the future scenes in the first two Terminator movies take place in 2029, where I guess they have invented plasma rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Grosse Point BlankOne of my favorite John Cusack films. Being John Malkovich and High Fidelity are up there with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Grosse Point BlankOne of my favorite John Cusack films. Being John Malkovich and High Fidelity are up there with this one.Great movie. Not a huge fan of BJM, but HF is brilliant.I watched T2 last night, well, most of it. God, Edward Furlong really strangles the movie in places. But some of it is still great. It's just a bit Hollywood OTT for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Grosse Point BlankOne of my favorite John Cusack films. Being John Malkovich and High Fidelity are up there with this one.Yes GPB is terrific! Dan Aykroyd & Joan Cusack are both crucial to the brilliance of the film as is the 80's soundtrack. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Into the WildMost impressive.I agree although I don't know if it can stand repeat viewing (Is it as bulletproof as No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood?). It's also a shame the film is somewhat injured by the Eddie Vedder interludes.AlexI thought the songs are great and work very well in the film.It's one of my favorite modern films, although it's too self-indulgent in some parts. And the fact that Eddie Vedder was the one behind the song cycle instead of John Darnielle is one of the biggest crimes of 2007. Otherwise, a very, very impressive achievement.I don't know Darnielle (was he Penn's first choice perhaps?) but I don't like Eddie Vedder's voice and songs. Plus the emotion of bringing those 'emotional' songs together with the nature vistas is somewhat easy and schmaltzy. Remember Joan Baez in Silent Running? But other than that, it's one of my favorite movies of the last few years too. However, I've only seen it once. It grabbed me on the first occasion and I find that worrying because none of my favorite movies grabbed me on the first occasion.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I need to see this movie, just for Eddie Vedder's songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I need to see this movie, just for Eddie Vedder's songs.Better buy the soundtrack then because they are the weakest element in the film.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I need to see this movie, just for Eddie Vedder's songs.Better buy the soundtrack then because they are the weakest element in the film.AlexYou seem predisposed to not like Eddie Vedder anyway, so it sounds like they wouldn't have made much difference where they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I don't know Darnielle (was he Penn's first choice perhaps?) but I don't like Eddie Vedder's voice and songs. Plus the emotion of bringing those 'emotional' songs together with the nature vistas is somewhat easy and schmaltzy. Remember Joan Baez in Silent Running? But other than that, it's one of my favorite movies of the last few years too. However, I've only seen it once. It grabbed me on the first occasion and I find that worrying because none of my favorite movies grabbed me on the first occasion.AlexI love Silent Running and the first time I watched it the Joan Baez songs did seem out of place yes, however after repeated viewings they actually lend themselves rather well to the overall ambience of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 The film is really good so I forgave Penn for using Eddie Vedder. You should definitely see it! It's a much more fulfulling experience than, let's say, Terminator Salvation.I don't know Darnielle (was he Penn's first choice perhaps?) but I don't like Eddie Vedder's voice and songs. Plus the emotion of bringing those 'emotional' songs together with the nature vistas is somewhat easy and schmaltzy. Remember Joan Baez in Silent Running? But other than that, it's one of my favorite movies of the last few years too. However, I've only seen it once. It grabbed me on the first occasion and I find that worrying because none of my favorite movies grabbed me on the first occasion.AlexI love Silent Running and the first time I watched it the Joan Baez songs did seem out of place yes, however after repeated viewings they actually lend themselves rather well to the overall ambience of the movie.Oh, but I've seen Silent Running many times. You know, I'm amazed that someone responds with an opposite opinion so soon. You really like the Joan Baez songs in that film? Is it because of the cheese factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 The film is really good so I forgave Penn for using Eddie Vedder. You should definitely see it! It's a much more fulfulling experience than, let's say, Terminator Salvation.I will. I'm not really interested in SALVATION any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Oh, but I've seen Silent Running many times. You know, I'm amazed that someone responds with an opposite opinion so soon. You really like the Joan Baez songs in that film? Yes I think they work with the film, i've never attempted to listen to them away from it admittedly. The film has aged quite well don't you think? There's a lovely remastered pristine HD print that Sky Movies show now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Oh, but I've seen Silent Running many times. You know, I'm amazed that someone responds with an opposite opinion so soon. You really like the Joan Baez songs in that film? Yes I think they work with the film, i've never attempted to listen to them away from it admittedly. The film has aged quite well don't you think? There's a lovely remastered pristine HD print that Sky Movies show now and again. Well, the last time I saw Silent Running, I felt it was a bit dated due to the Joan Baez songs and the sometimes obvious ecological preaching the film does about issues we are now very familiar with. Of course, at the time, these themes were new and somewhat alarming. The robots looked kinda funny too. Don't they look like giant Polaroid cameras?Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I Know don't they?! That's the beauty of the film though, it could've been utterly naff and corny but comes off as totally charming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I don't know Darnielle (was he Penn's first choice perhaps?) but I don't like Eddie Vedder's voice and songs. Plus the emotion of bringing those 'emotional' songs together with the nature vistas is somewhat easy and schmaltzy. Remember Joan Baez in Silent Running? But other than that, it's one of my favorite movies of the last few years too. However, I've only seen it once. It grabbed me on the first occasion and I find that worrying because none of my favorite movies grabbed me on the first occasion.He was not Penn's first choice -- it's a personal opinion that he should have written the music. You would like him, Alex. He's a purist folk composer and singer known for recording limited-edition cassette-only EPs on his boombox and playing deliriously cathartic solo acoustic shows to his ever-growing rabid cult. His barebones style is also known for more emotional straightforwardness (so I disagree with you to an extent), but he's also famous for his "travelling through America" songs (describing the Americana sights with painful realism and from an usually god-like point-of-view reflecting about humanity). He began releasing studio CDs of his band The Mountain Goats in the late 90s, so I think that he would have suited Into the Wild perfectly, and would've made better use of the prominent voice given to the songs.Not that I don't like Vedder (I mean, we still got "Society"), but I felt he was too easy, too pop-y and sometimes too happy ("Hard Sun") for the movie. I needed real folk (just as the script relies of folk mythology towards the end to make its points). Wish Youtube had some decent clips of Darnielle to show what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Not that I don't like Vedder (I mean, we still got "Society"), but I felt he was too easy, too pop-y and sometimes too happy ("Hard Sun") for the movie.Personally, I would've picked Bon Iver for the songs. Do you know him, Ross? He's definitely not happy sounding. Of course, he's propably not going to appeal to a large audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Not bucolic enough for my taste, but I haven't heard much by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Is it really that big of a deal? I say Bob Dylan should have done the songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 You say that but, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Songs are for people who hate orchestral film music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Songs in film or just songs in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Songs in film or just songs in general?Well, vocal proponents of traditional film scoring tend to be skeptical that an aptly selected (or composed) song can be as powerful as a section of original score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 You say that but, who cares?I don't know. Not me, I didn't even like the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Perhaps they should go watch some Scorsese then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Aw, your DVD Player is broken, Marc? That is a shame, how long have you had it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Broken DVD player? Sounds like a sign to upgrade to Blu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Aw, your DVD Player is broken, Marc? That is a shame, how long have you had it?Several years. I suspect it's merely run out. It's been used almost daily and was making some rather suspect sounds last week. It now fails to recognize any of my discs. I suspect some drive unit inside the actual reader is broken. I'm going to see if I can get it fixed, but I probably won't have time to do so until after the weekend.Broken DVD player? Sounds like a sign to upgrade to Blu.I would, if I had the money. For starters, I'd have to upgrade my TV as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 You can buy a DVD player for 25 Euro's these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I would, if I had the money.Don't tell me all those months of lugging around large mics on long sticks has been completely worthless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Mics on sticks? Say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Or whatever it was you were doing on set, I thought that's what you had said. Memory's always the first thing to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'm an electrician. I don't mess around with microphones, dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 but I don't like Eddie Vedder's voice and songs.Can't argue with that. I like both. Plus the emotion of bringing those 'emotional' songs together with the nature vistas is somewhat easy and schmaltzy.That's what I was afraid of when I realised it would have a song score, but I was completely convinced by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I just saw Forrest Gump for the first time, I really liked it. Alan Silvestri's score seemed decent enough, I suppose, it did its purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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