Quintus 5,399 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is a movie I remain firmly unexcited about.That's not to say I'm not open to pleasant surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Great cast, am excited for this like no other movie. I wonder when the first teaser will surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I guess I've just become to accustomed to disappointment in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Holy Moly Doly!!!AlexI like Pearce as an actor. I often wonder why we don't see him in more films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'd like a world in which Guy Pearce was in each and every film and where all the roles in a film were played by him and him alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I like Pearce as an actor. I often wonder why we don't see him in more films.I believe the article says it. They tried to make a big star out of him but apparently the public has no need for him. He doesn't have what it takes to be a Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, James Stewart, ... Heck, he even doesn't have what it takes to be a Jake Gyllenhaal. Alex - who thinks Pearce is going to be a fucking robot in the new sorta Alien, sorta not Alien film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Two robots then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Yes, Pearce will be the unexpected surprise twist moment robot with a different agenda (psst, the evil robot!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I like Pearce as an actor. I often wonder why we don't see him in more films.I believe the article says it. They tried to make a big star out of him but apparently the public has no need for him. He doesn't have what it takes to be a Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, James Stewart, ... Heck, he even doesn't have what it takes to be a Jake Gyllenhaal. Alex - who thinks Pearce is going to be a fucking robot in the new sorta Alien, sorta not Alien filmFrom what I remember he turned down several offers to play so-called big parts. Maybe he's next generation's Sean Connery (LOTR anyone?) or maybe he wasn't all that interested in being a massive star. I like the guy, he's a good actor.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Did he really turn down LOTR, or is that a myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 The comparison between Connery and Pearce is not a very good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'm not being serious here, silly. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Filming Prometheus Has StartedPrometheus re-teams Scott with several of his long-time collaborators, including production designer Arthur Max (Robin Hood, American Gangster), Academy Award®-winning costume designer Janty Yates (Gladiator, Robin Hood), and Academy Award®-winning editor Pietro Scalia (Black Hawk Down, Gladiator), as well as set decorator Sonja Klaus (Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven).Hmm, based on these collaborators, it seems like just another project for ol' Ridders. Just another day at the office. I got a bad feeling about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Back to the ol'e freezerino!Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Filming Prometheus Has StartedPrometheus re-teams Scott with several of his long-time collaborators, including production designer Arthur Max (Robin Hood, American Gangster), Academy Award®-winning costume designer Janty Yates (Gladiator, Robin Hood), and Academy Award®-winning editor Pietro Scalia (Black Hawk Down, Gladiator), as well as set decorator Sonja Klaus (Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven).Hmm, based on these collaborators, it's seems like just another project for ol' Ridders. Just another day at the office. I got a bad feeling about this.Spielberg has been working with the exact same crew for 20 years.Scalia is one of the best editors working today, I have no problem with him on this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Spielberg has been working with the exact same crew for 20 years.That coincides roughly with the beginning of his decline. Not that I'm attributing that with his crew, but you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 What decline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I'd say his "decline" began when he made Schindler's List and lost some his youth. He became serious and lost a bit of that edge that served him so well prior to Schindler.As far as Ridley goes, I've never been gaga over him. I've found him to be an adequate director with a few great films and a bunch of average/ decent / bad / watchable films. The fact that every film in the series, since Aliens, continues to go downhill doesn't give me any hope this will be different. Especially since it's been over 30 years since Scott did Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 What gives me hope is:1. Ridley Scott2. Damon Lindelof3. It's apparently only loosely based on the preexisting franchise.4. The cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 What gives me hope is:1. Ridley Scott2. Damon Lindelof3. It's apparently only loosely based on the preexisting franchise.4. The castI was hoping for names or things that would give me hope but for now the only thing that strikes me as positive is number 3. The fact that Ridley is just continuing with the people of his latest mediocre films is not a good sign in my point of view. When purely looking at the design of those films, I haven't seen much remarkable. It feels like he's just making another film about the South of France, if you know what I mean. I would pick designers that comply to a certain vision. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Why can't we just wait for the movie itself? It's the first s-f from Scott in 30 years. We don't know what it'll look like.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Blade Runner is from 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes, which is 29 years ago. By the time Prometheus comes out, it will be 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Why can't we just wait for the movie itself? It's the first s-f from Scott in 30 years. I wonder if he even realizes that. A lot of people feel that Alien and Blade Runner are without doubt Scott's best and most defining work. Everyone will compare Prometheus with these two iconic films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Why can't we just wait for the movie itself? It's the first s-f from Scott in 30 years. We don't know what it'll look like.KarolYeah I remember those arguments for TPM, AOTC, ROTS and KOTCS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I don't think anybody said anything like that for KOTCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes, which is 29 years ago. By the time Prometheus comes out, it will be 30.Yes, that's what I meant.I wonder if he even realizes that. A lot of people feel that Alien and Blade Runner are without doubt Scott's best and most defining work. Everyone will compare Prometheus with these two iconic films.We all know it's going to disappoint most people, no matter what they do. The question is how badly... Somehow I can't picture Prometheus being paced the way these two films were. In a sense I don't even want it to be that reverential. What I expect is the film to be its own thing. It's about time we got some decent s-f!Yeah I remember those arguments for TPM, AOTC, ROTS and KOTCS.... I'm open-minded towards this and the new Superman film (not so much with TDKR). It won't change the face of the cinema though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 It's about time we got some decent s-f!Lots of people think Moon is decent SF. Heck, they even say Source Code is more than decent. Duncan Jones is the new SF messiah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Well... is he?Karol - who didn't like Moon much (but he kind of liked Moon OST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Good sci-fi for the last few years for me: WALL-E, Cloverfield, Moon, District 9, Inception, Source Code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Don't ask me. In theory, I love the SF genre, but I can't stand 98% of all SF movies. The last decent one that I saw was Gattaca, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Same happens with me. I'm very picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Good sci-fi for the last few years for me: WALL-E, Cloverfield, Moon, District 9, Inception, Source Code.I know what you're trying to say, but these pictures are not really what I mean by true s-f. Wall-E is a more of a cute animation than anything else, District 9 started off well and then degenerated into a mindless action flick, the s-f aspect of Inception is the least important element of that film. I haven't seen Source Code so I can't comment on that. And Moon, as I said, is completely unexciting for me and reminds me too much of Solaris and stuff like that. And Cloverfield? It's a monster movie.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes, which is 29 years ago. By the time Prometheus comes out, it will be 30.Yes, that's what I meant.Yes, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 My hopes for a sci-fi revival ended with Danny Boyle's Sunshine. Moon was just decent, nothing special or out of the ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Sunshine is a name for a Goldie Hawn comedy, not a sci-fi film!You should have known better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Good sci-fi for the last few years for me: WALL-E, Cloverfield, Moon, District 9, Inception, Source Code.I know what you're trying to say, but these pictures are not really what I mean by true s-f. Wall-E is a more of a cute animation than anything else, District 9 started off well and then degenerated into a mindless action flick, the s-f aspect of Inception is the least important element of that film. I haven't seen Source Code so I can't comment on that. And Moon, as I said, is completely unexciting for me and reminds me too much of Solaris and stuff like that. And Cloverfield? It's a monster movie.KarolI understand you prefectly. Moon is the only film of these that takes the s-f element seriously. I think it was beautiful. District 9 was meant to be an action film, and a pretty good one at that (Neill Blomkamp has said he is developing films that are more sci-fi centric). I thought that about Cloverfield, but since it was awesome and many people put it on the science-fiction genre and I wanted to put more films... but for me is pure fantasy."Hard sci-fi" is very, very underdeveloped in film. Literature is waaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of films on this regard.Someone enlighten me: 2001, Moon, Blade Runner (minus the flying police cars), what else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Someone should do a Heart of Darkness in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Kurtz could be a rogue AI that escapes throgh the moons of Jupiter, but it turns out it's a human in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 The planet Jupiter turns out to be a human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 No, the AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 "The horror! The horror!"Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I'd say his "decline" began when he made Schindler's List and lost some his youth. He became serious and lost a bit of that edge that served him so well prior to Schindler.No, its just that his serious POW won over the lighthearted one. Now his serious movies are more serious, and his lighthearted ones have a serious side.He had been doing 'schindler's list-ey' films for all over his career. (sugarland, color purple, empire sun...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 There aren't too many science fiction films being made these days, but they're usually pretty good. I loved Moon and most of Sunshine (it lost me with the final act).The Fifth Element still holds up, in my opinion, such an underrated film. It's astonishing how the special effects there are better than some films today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Fith Element is a dumb and silly Fantasy, Koray.Someone enlighten me: 2001, Moon, Blade Runner (minus the flying police cars), what else?True SF? Yes, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, Solyaris, Gattaca (probably the most topical one), ... uhm ... what else is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Fith Element is a dumb and silly Fantasy, Koray.So's your face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Gattaca indeed has some interesting ideas (and some nice shots of Uma), but the movie is so boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I like Gattaca, mainly for Jude Law's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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