bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Well, whatever it is, I'm sure it won't be of interest to me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 How did you come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 It's not Hook, Far and Away, Harry Potter or Schindler's List. Anything else that interests me is 2000s stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Only listen to Williams then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Oh no, not at all. But I hardly know any pre-90s score, partly because the old sound really annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Who said anything about pre-90s? If anything, MV's quote makes it sound like a more recent release, to me. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Oh no, not at all. But I hardly know any pre-90s score, partly because the old sound really annoys me. Stylistically or actual recordings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Jay said: The other title is kinda frustrating...not because of the title itself (which some will find awesome, while others will think it's meh), but what it represents as a whole is what will get you guys drooling over. And until we can finalize a press release with the studio, we can't say anything about it. But trust me, the announcement is gonna be pretty special (and it should be considering it has taken 3 months just to finalize the the logo, the branding, the credits and the press release). What could that be? Rogue One? Extremely unlikely, but it would certainly fit the description. bollemanneke, Alan, Disco Stu and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I bet that, as usual, they're overhyping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 How can anyone claim he's overhyping anything when the first thing he said was that many people will find it "meh"? Good lord! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Stylistically or actual recordings? Actual recordings. I just cannot enjoy JW's original Superman recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Overhyping the implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I buy every expanded Williams scores now, so I don't care... Even if it's an expansion of Images. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Which Newman is he talking about? Thomas? He was being deliberately vague, I suspect...and it might be referring to more than one Newman. LLL has released scores by Alfred, Thomas, David, and Joey. As far as I know they've never done a Randy or a Lionel score, but that could always change. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Captain EO? filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: LLL has released scores by Alfred, Thomas, David, and Joey. Karol Incanus and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 . Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Overhyping the implications. https://tenor.com/OvZD.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,096 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It has to be a franchise related title. Why else would a studio get so worked up on logos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Amer said: It has to be a franchise related title. Why else would a studio get so worked up on logos? Studios work hard to make logos as frightening as possible for young children. Look up the "V of Doom" and the "S from Hell" for further info. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Margo Channing said: Deeply disturbing if you look at it more than 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Okay, my theory/question based on othing but my own wishlist: Could it be that LLL has somehow managed to get rid of the ridiculous licence fees that are connected to post-2005 scores? In other words, is it legally possible for specialty labels to find a way around those? After all, they can't survive if nothing post-2005 is possible, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: In other words, is it legally possible for specialty labels to find a way around those? After all, they can't survive if nothing post-2005 is possible, right? Maybe! We know that labels negotiate directly with unions with regards to their fees, seeking exemptions for various reasons (though Intrada's attempts ultimately failed on Avatar). Which makes total sense, because it's in the union's best interests to actually return a profit for members, rather than remain so stubborn about fees that releases become financially unviable for smaller labels (because then everyone loses, especially the musicians). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Maybe! We know that labels negotiate directly with unions with regards to their fees, seeking exceptions for various reasons (though Intrada's attempts ultimately failed on Avatar). Which makes total sense, because it's in the union's best interests to actually return a profit for members, rather than remain so stubborn about fees that releases become financially unviable for smaller labels (because then everyone loses, especially the musicians). I didn't know that record labels negotiated directly with the unions. You'd think studios would do that... As for those fees, I have no idea about the numbers, but can we safely say that abolishing them would be more profitable for all parties involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I have this sneaking suspicion that I'm going to care about neither this mystery release nor "what it represents as a whole." Hope I'm wrong, but if it's all about crap 80s cartoons or something similar, I really couldn't care less. Bilbo and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: As for those fees, I have no idea about the numbers, but can we safely say that abolishing them would be more profitable for all parties involved? Whatever changed after 2005, it's made it prohibitive for labels to release scores unless they want to sell at a loss or print an untenably large quantity of units (which they won't be able to sell) to justify the fees incurred. My understanding is that independent labels like LLL rely on reduced quantities because it reduces the fees involved in licensing a score (especially when the studio, composer and musicians all want a slice of the pie) and helps make releases financially viable. Obviously we never heard about exact dollars but JP/TLW was basically a break-even release for LLL. Fortunately for us, their passion revolves more around the music than profit margins, but if the scales tip much further it would become unsustainable as a business model. OneBuckFilms and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 If it becomes financially nonviable for these releases to occur, it'll be a sad day. I'm going to enjoy the riches we recieve as best I can before that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 If it wasn’t for nostalgic collectors, this market would have died a long time ago. Its time will run out one day, but let’s hope it isn’t anytime soon! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Thankfully I have most of everything I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 " A question mark is just a question mark. Not a clue or a hint. Its going to be one of two titles. One has been approved (Fox title) while the other (Mystery title) is waiting on one last thumbs up. If the Mystery title gets final approval this week it's coming out on the 19th. If it's not approved it will be coming out on July 5 and the Fox title will take its place on June 19th. And NO the word mystery is not a clue!!!" bollemanneke and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I think the word mystery could be a clue. Which "meh"-scores of a mystery film come to mind? (I'm sorry for not being funny.) bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Mysterious Island by Herrmann! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Mystery Science Theatre 3000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,680 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The Varese theory is a rather interesting one, and the fact that they were bought by that other company would lend some logic to that possibility. Not saying it's that likely, but it would make sense if it were. I'm a bigger fan of the idea that it's a release from some studio which implies a lot of other stuff that's now possible. MV using 'awesome' to describe some people's reactions feels like how he diplomatically describes all their releases - some people will be interested and some won't, but it opens doors. Although.... if logos and branding have taken forever, it's something that the studio cares a lot about. JPIII does seem to fit these clues but I'm just not sure what such a release would 'unleash' and make us so happy about. Not like there's masses of Davis' scores unreleased. MV saying the announcement will be 'pretty special' also suggests he will talk about whatever the newly opened door is when he announces this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 04/06/2018 at 10:27 PM, Marian Schedenig said: Rogue One? Extremely unlikely, but it would certainly fit the description. That was my first thought too A general meh from a lot of Williams fans but the implications for future releases would certainly cause a lot of drooling! Arpy and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Mystery Men by Stephen Warbeck confirmed. 🙌🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 It must be a franchise! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 do we know when will we know? on the 19th or earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Maybe later! The reason it's still a "?" is because they haven't gotten everything lined up for the release date yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Maybe it's Hubris? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Could be a rectified SW OST remasters. aj_vader and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Hey Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 GUYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 You think it's Guys 'n' Dolls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 welp. that is an unsettlingly clear gif bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Is it from the Nolanmastered version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,339 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: do we know when will we know? on the 19th or earlier? The newsletter that goes out the night before with the track lists and press releases for the new titles would be the latest we'd know. More than likely, he'll post this weekend (or maybe Tuedsay June 12th) what the other June 19th title will be since by then they'll know if the mystery title was approved and is coming out on the 19th, or it wasn't approved and the Fox title is coming out instead filmmusic, Bayesian and bollemanneke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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