The Official La-La Land Records Thread

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 It was a joke. It will never sell out without the help of a heavy discount.

 

Because soundtrack fans are racist!

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

4 hours ago, crumbs said:

What occurred to me is Mike's comment about 'having an idea' to convince Williams to release The Sugarland Express. I wonder... what if he approached Williams and said he wanted to celebrate their milestone release with his first Spielberg collaboration? The premiere release of an entirely unreleased film score, already scanned and assembled in preparation for the Heritage Collection (before Williams pulled the plug). Would the honour of that milestone be enough to secure Williams' approval, given how many of his scores LLL and Mike have now remastered?

 

Interesting idea, but I don't see why the 500th release would be so delayed then.

 

4 hours ago, crumbs said:

Just a thought. I can't imagine what else Mike's idea was, other than bundling the score alongside Always in a 2CD anniversary set (45th and 30th respectively).

 

I said it first!

[Bilbo 3,709]

I reckon it’ll be a massive disappointment.

 

Probably be a collection of monophonic Star Trek ringtones 

[A. A. Ron 1,741]

Star Trek ringtones are better than everything!

[Amer 2,080]

Has to be some Boxed set. 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Lost In Space Box 2

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

Hans Zimmer: The Original Fart Samples Box Set (14 CDs)

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

11 hours ago, Bilbo said:

I reckon it’ll be a massive disappointment.

 

Probably be a collection of monophonic Star Trek ringtones 

 

Yesterday's post of the day! 

[bollemanneke 3,338]

So I haven't been keeping up at all: are we expecting the announcement soon, this month, or... just… at some point?

[crocodile 7,990]

1 minute ago, bollemanneke said:

So I haven't been keeping up at all: are we expecting the announcement soon, this month, or... just… at some point?

They will announce it at the same time as it goes on sale next Tuesday. Same time as usual.

 

 

Karol

[bollemanneke 3,338]

Hmm, right when I'm on holiday… I'm gonna lose it if a day of sightseeing ends with me discovering Hook has sold out.

[Arpy 4,145]

The X-Files (vol. 20,000)

[Chewy 2,382]

So how likely will this big release be a JW score?

[crocodile 7,990]

 

Karol

[Jay 37,322]

 

5 hours ago, bollemanneke said:

So I haven't been keeping up at all: are we expecting the announcement soon, this month, or... just… at some point?

 

On 7/10/2019 at 10:46 AM, Jay said:

Oh, and about that release #500?  MV just posted this:

 

Coming next Tuesday

 

Can't wait!

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=135424&forumID=1

[mstrox 6,647]

They posted on Twitter that it specifically will be announced at 12:00PM PST on Tuesday, and will go sale on the website at that time.  No early e-mail/announcement/tracklisting

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Hans Zimmer: The Original Fart Samples Box Set (14 CDs)

With immersive remastered sound and smell!

[bollemanneke 3,338]

7 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

 

Thanks. I had started to read that long post but somehow didn't finish it.

[Jay 37,322]

 

[crumbs 14,305]

Surely LLL haven't managed to cut a deal with Disney for the Star Wars OT... surely...

 

Not even Williams has enough clout to make that happen.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Music from the 500th episode of Bold and the Beautiful.

[crumbs 14,305]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

 

Also:

 

 

Okay, so... it isn't a Mike Matessino release. Or it's a release so big that Mike recruited other producers to help? Seems unlikely... so considering Williams only wants Mike handling his catalog, we can deduct this isn't a Williams score.

 

And if it was, it could only be a "huge" Williams release like SW or Indy, and definitely not a single score release like Always, Hook or Sugarland.

[Arpy 4,145]

I think the orgasmic hype for Star Wars might surpass Harry Potter!

[mstrox 6,647]

If it's not Williams or Elfman, I can't think of anything LLL would consider "big/huge" that I'd be interested in.  A few months ago, Ghostbusters would have done it, but...

 

For the sake of my wallet, I hope it's some Goldsmith or Star Trek thing.

[Jay 37,322]

Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores will only come out from Disney Records.  Sorry!

[crumbs 14,305]

Hmm, so Neil S. Bulk assisted Mike with the remastering on the Superman release... so maybe my theory about "a release so big Mike needed assistance" isn't as outlandish as I thought...

 

10 minutes ago, Jay said:

Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores will only come out from Disney Records.  Sorry!

 

... or not.

 

10 minutes ago, mstrox said:

For the sake of my wallet, I hope it's some Goldsmith or Star Trek thing. 

 

Neil S. Bulk did some huge 15 disc Star Trek box set years ago, so I'd put money on something related. Probably some Horner or Goldsmith box set for whichever movies they scored.

[Faleel 5,341]

All of the Goldsmith and Horner scores were released already.....

[crocodile 7,990]

The only other big thing to get me excited would be The Elliot Goldenthal Batman Collection. With updated/fixed Forever. But that is highly unlikely for many reasons.

 

Karol

[crumbs 14,305]

Star Trek: The Next Generation box?

[Chewy 2,382]

Star Trek, again?! huh

[mstrox 6,647]

I'd definitely buy Batman and Robin, although my guess is I'd be fairly disappointed in its similarities to Forever - but at this point I've ruled it out as a possibility.

[crocodile 7,990]

I'd love a Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy on a 7CD set too (final disc devoted to all the late changes on film 2 and 3) That would be huge...and probably won't happen.

 

Karol

[Holko 9,499]

Post-2005 reuse fees!

[crumbs 14,305]

LLL have only two Sony scores left in the pipeline. One of those??

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

1 hour ago, Arpy said:

I think the orgasmic hype for Star Wars might surpass Harry Potter!

Um...no question there. Absolutely. 

[crumbs 14,305]

3 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:

Um...no question there. Absolutely. 

 

Ironically, there won't be any opportunity for hype of a Star Wars trilogy set under Disney Records. It'll just appear in a listing on Amazon randomly one day.

 

Such a shame one of the smaller labels won't have a chance to work on those scores, where they can be handled with love and care. We won't have any of that fun anticipation in the lead-up to an announcement date; it'll just drop when we're not expecting it.

[Jay 37,322]

Nah, the demasters were announced via a big press release on StarWars.com.  No reason to think expanded editions wouldn't go the same way

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I haven't visited the SW official site since the AotC days.

[bollemanneke 3,338]

53 minutes ago, crumbs said:

 

Ironically, there won't be any opportunity for hype of a Star Wars trilogy set under Disney Records. It'll just appear in a listing on Amazon randomly one day.

 

Such a shame one of the smaller labels won't have a chance to work on those scores, where they can be handled with love and care. We won't have any of that fun anticipation in the lead-up to an announcement date; it'll just drop when we're not expecting it.

You… don't want them to just be available? You actually want the maddening wait and hype? To each his own.

 

Also, why is it so important that LLL do SW or Indy? I'm convinced Matessino will do them anyway, so I'm not too worried about that… (please, let this one be Hook…)

[Holko 9,499]

Because with LLL we'd be guaranteed pristine quality control, a beautiful release and all the right people working on it. Shawn Murphy was involved with the demasters, but only the premixing phase, the rest was done and messed up by noname hacks. With Disney or any other big company owning all the rights by accident or not, we have no precedent for anything this size, who knows how much they'd let one person perfect it without meddling in it.

 

 

Also, @crumbs, Neil helping in with a Mike release... like with Supes... because Mike is busy... doing other big things... for Disney, perhaps?

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

Ironically, there won't be any opportunity for hype of a Star Wars trilogy set under Disney Records. It'll just appear in a listing on Amazon randomly one day.

If that is the case, which it may not be theoretically (as Jay has pointed out), that'd be kind of odd. Such a surprise would kill a lot of hype and anticipation, which actually provides half of the excitement for these releases, believe it or not. I mean, just look at the days leading up to LLL's Black Friday announcement this year. It was nuts! And the payoff that fulfilled the bubbly excitement heightened everyone's excitement! It's a far more enjoyable way to go about it.

 

16 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

You actually want the maddening wait and hype? To each his own.

Um...yeah! The announcement of the maddening wait and hype's payoff is all the more exciting and fulfilling that way!

[crumbs 14,305]

1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:

You… don't want them to just be available? You actually want the maddening wait and hype? To each his own.

 

The lead up to Alien 3 last year was heaps of fun, all the guessing games! Then it was Dracula... then Potter. It's one of the few exciting things we get to anticipate, especially with new Williams scores becoming rare. LLL are fantastic at dropping subtle hints; it makes the reward of seeing the announcement that much sweeter.

 

1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:

Also, why is it so important that LLL do SW or Indy? I'm convinced Matessino will do them anyway, so I'm not too worried about that… (please, let this one be Hook…)

 

A smaller, independent label handling a score expansion will almost always result in a better quality product. Independent labels have practically one layer of management, which means no suits trying to smear their fingerprints on a product, no board members demanding profit margin spreadsheets to justify a product, and so forth.

 

A label like LLL entrusts the producer with near-complete creative control over a title. Working under a larger company means you're beholden to a whole range of vested interests, from legal to managerial.

 

I'm not convinced Mike would have the same creative control under Disney Records as he would have at LLL/Intrada/Varese. Would he be allowed to hire Jim Titus when Disney have a team of in-house graphics artists (the same ones who brought us those amazing Star Wars demaster covers, which probably went through dozens of pointless revisions before managerial approval)? Would Disney allow all the discs required to present these scores properly, or tell Mike to cut back some music after seeing the cost involved in the LA licensing fees? Let's not forget how hard Bouzerau had to fight to justify the cost of a fourth disc of Indiana Jones music in 2008.

 

Soundtracks under big labels are about turning a profit. For the smaller labels, it's about the passion for the job. Just because JW might request for Mike to handle such a set under Disney Records doesn't automatically mean he'd receive the type of autonomy he has under smaller labels; he would still be beholden to all the bureaucratic managerial input that any producer stepping into his shoes would face (though hopefully held in far higher esteem, given his respect in this field).

[bollemanneke 3,338]

JW also has people and he wants MM to do everything. Also, Disney might do them digitally so we could finally stop worrying about enough discs.

 

And if Disney reads reactions to their products, don't you think they'll have noticed we all hate the recent demasters?

 

Finally, I no longer believe that the 'big executives' care about music. Look at WB and Harry Potter. That set hasn't even sold out yet either! Nobody cares about film music except fans, so I can't see any higher-ups interfearing when someone like MM is involved anymore.

[crumbs 14,305]

15 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

I can't see any higher-ups interfearing when someone like MM is involved anymore. 

 

Maybe not for the first two SW trilogies but the third? All that unreleased music is really expensive due to the new licensing fees, especially if Mike fights to release all of it (200 minutes of unreleased score for TFA and TLJ alone, with TROS indeterminate).

 

With luck, Disney Records is large enough to disregard such costs and focus on the prestige of the property. It would be interesting to know how much they make from streaming/digital releases of the two scores thus far. It could be many millions for all we know, even after JW's percentage, which means it could be highly profitable.

[Jay 37,322]

I think the biggest difference between a theoretical boutique label SW/Indy releases and Disney Records SW/Indy releases is entirely the packaging/release/pricepoint side of things.  The actual music program that Mike would make and Williams would approve would be identical either way, and of course he'd create each master in the highest quality possible.  The nice thing about Disney Records having the rights would mean it will be available on all the digital platforms, instead of locked forever on a physical product that will eventually go OOP

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Disney owning SW. I still can't believe it...

[OneBuckFilms 319]

I could easily live with Disney releasing it themselves if the mastering and decisions for the music itself are handled by Matessino, given his work and the trust placed in him by Williams.

 

Even if they are bare bones, hardly any liner notes, and simple artwork (Teaser posters, or original LP covers with track listings on the back), I would be happy, given that it's really the music at the heart of it.

 

The ideal of La-La Land Records doing it with Jim Titus artwork, and a presentation on par with the Superman and Harry Potter releases (and Close Encounters, and E.T. ... and on and on ...) is a pie-in-the-sky pipedream.

[Jay 37,322]

Yea, I have no clue if Matessino/Williams could convince Disney to use Titus or not, if they could insist on a booklet with a liner notes or not, etc etc.  All that would be great, but a properly edited and complete music program is far more essential imo.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,508]

Goodness me. All this speculation. Why don't we all wait until Tuesday?

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

1 minute ago, Richard said:

Goodness me. All this speculation. Why don't we all wait until Tuesday?

And then complain it’s another boring release of a score no one’s heard of and no one demanded? 

Let’s speculate in the misplaced optimism it’ll actually be something interesting!