ManofDestiny 71 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ordered Speed. I always want to listen to full score for both two movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Straight from their Facebook page:Now that #200 is in the rearview mirror, we here at the triple L look foward to the next 4 1/2 months, building up to another big celebration -- COMIC CON, BABY! We have a some awesome releases planned for this bash and we hope (fingers crossed) the cds will be done in time. That would certainly be a good opportunity for a TMP release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Indeed it wouldHowever, unless Neil is lying on his Facebook, he hasn't done any work on it yet. I imagine work would have started by now for a July release, and I imagine Neil will be involved in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Neil would be legally prohibited from saying anything about it, especially if he wants to keep his job. It's not a lie, it's a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 In which case, he'd probably just dodge the question/statement, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 What would you do if you were in his shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If I were Neil, I for one wouldn't risk getting fired because I posted information about upcoming projects. Grant he does give out little "hints" for stuff he's working on but doesn't necessarily come flat out and say, "I'm working on such and such score". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Of course he wouldn't say anything if he was really working on. As you guys say, he would just dodge the question.However, he did not dodge the question... He said:The Sony album isn't complete at all. I'd love to someday work on TMP. It could be my favorite film score of all. It is the first score I ever owned on LP. In the meantime, enjoy all of the other great Trek music that is out there!Source:https://www.facebook...01952259&type=1I'm sure someday he WILL work on it. All I'm saying is that since he hasn't started yet, its unlikely to be done by Comic Con. But I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Its either denial or evasion. However if Neil is working on it, he will not make it known untill he is allowed too. He is very professional these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I agree with you 100%. My point is that if he WASN'T working on it, he wouldn't have said what he did. As you said, he is completely professional. When he says "I hope to someday work on it", I completely believe that he has NOT done ANY work on it at all.That doesnt' mean he won't start working on it tomorrow, and that it can't be done by Comic Con, I just have my doubts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yes, probably not comic com, but hopefully this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Could be a Black Friday title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'm actually quite happy with the Sony edition. Both existing releases are very good in their own respect. But since I already bought all the others (some of which I already had in OST form), then obviously this one would end up in my collection as well.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.Or if they are (EXTREMLY) casual score fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.There was some Alexander Courage material for captain log in the film. Can't remember the rest.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The 20th Anniversary album is pretty good on its own but I agree with Jason on this matter. The full complete score is simply awesome and once you've heard it you don't go back to the 20th Anniversary edition.I would not be surprised if this ends up being one of La-La Land's Black Friday titles this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.There was some Alexander Courage material for captain log in the film. Can't remember the rest.KarolYou should listen the unused version of "The Enterprise", it's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The one that which kind of hints at the Enterprise theme that didn't exist yet at the time? Heard a part of that in some making of documentary.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.Or if they are Sheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sheldon would think the 20th anniversary soundtrack would be too much because he wouldn't like it anyways.It came out in 1999, not 2000. I started college in 1999, and got this album before I started. Got it the same day I got the stereo for my dorm, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.Fanboy twaddle! The Sony release is excellent and has most of the highlights of the score proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.There was some Alexander Courage material for captain log in the film. Can't remember the rest.KarolThen you've proved my point!The only way anybody could possibly be happy with the 2000 edition of Star Trek TMP is if you've never heard the unreleased music + alternates before. They NEED to be legally released.Fanboy twaddle! The Sony release is excellent and has most of the highlights of the score proper.COMPLETELY disagree with you. Wouldn't have expected a response like that from you. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Heard a part of that in some making of documentary.KarolHere is the full track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrL27HLofX0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow! It's pretty amazing.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Jason, just because it is incomplete does not mean its a bad release. Back in 1999 it was a gift from the Gods!Btw, Maestro Goldsmith was involved in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow! It's pretty amazing.KarolI've just realized that it isn't the full track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Jason, just because it is incomplete does not mean its a bad release. Back in 1999 it was a gift from the Gods!Btw, Maestro Goldsmith was involved in it.It's a good release, but a COMPLETE release in the same manner of 2-6 would be MORE than welcome to me. The music NOT included on that 1999/2000 release (whenever it was) is great Goldsmith music that deserves to be released legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Steef/Stefan, I am sure they will get release a complete/expanded reissue of your precious Star Trek Generations, and a expanded/complete reissue of TMP will not hurt the release of a reissue of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You guys misunderstand. The complete TMP score with alternates in great sound, edited by Neil S. Bulk will be the most fantatic Goldsmith release ever!But the 99 release was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That's what I meant as well. I like the album. It flows beautifully, covers the most important bits and is not overlong.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 That's what I was referring to as well. I too think the 20th Anniversary album is fine on its own, especially for a casual listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Likewise. I really enjoy the 20th anniversary edition, but clearly a complete release would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The 20th anniversary soundtrack album is a great one with good chronological musical sequencing and 65 minute running time but I certainly would not say no to a complete score released with all the alternate material.Which reminds me I should listen to the anniversary album again today. It has been far too long since I listened ST TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I am glad Jason's Jihadist opinion about completism is not shared by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I never said the 1999 release wasn't good! Just that it wasn't good ENOUGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 As a listening experience, as a way to spend 60-ish minutes, it does its job quite nicely.That assembly is more or less what's on my iPod right now, with 'Voyager 6!' from the unmentionable added to it. That was the only unreleased portion I was really missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 How much is domestic shipping for LLL? I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 How much is domestic shipping for LLL? I forget.Direct quote from their home page.North America : $4.00 for the 1st cd and $1.00 for each additional CD.All orders will be shipped First Class mail via the United States Postal Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Is their Speed release definitive or does one have to keep the first releases? I'm thinking about to get the new one but it would be nice if I could toss the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 You can 100% toss the old one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 That's good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I'll stick with the old one for now. Not speeding to get this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 MV's new avatar on FSM gives away that Dimitri Tiomkin's Fall Of The Roman Empire will be a part of their March 13th batch (which MV will pre-announce tomorrow):Larger version from Illustrating The Score's facebook page:Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=360178920683744&set=a.114158731952432.13032.112035492164756&type=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Friends, Romans, Fanboys -- send me your credit card. . .Coming March 13, 2012 at 1 pm PST on www.lalalandrecords.comTHE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE EXPANDED ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACKMUSIC BY DIMITRI TIOMKINLLLCD 1202LIMITED EDITION OF 2500 UNITSRETAIL PRICE: $19.98 PRODUCED BY DIDIER C. DEUTSCH AND MARK G. WILDERMASTERED BY MARK G. WILDERLINER NOTES BY JEFF BONDART DIRECTION BY JIM TITUSLa-La Land Records and Sony Music are excited to announce the arrival of Dimitri Tiomkin's classic score to THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE. The fine folks at Sony Music dug around in their vaults and discovered the original 1/4 inch LP master of this fantastic score. Using those elements as well as some bonus mono cues we have culled together a fantastic 65 minute presentation that features some of the finest music Mr. Tiomkin ever wrote. If you are a Tiomkin purist you will be delighted with this new release! Stunning artwork by Jim Titus and in depth liner notes by Jeff Bond are another highlight. As fantastic as 2011's re-recording is, nothing beats the real thing!Source: https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/324002370981403 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I thought this was kind of interesting:For Trek V, there was talk about have Bruce Botnick remix it, but in the end he said that he was happy with it and that it was what Jerry had wanted, and so we kept it. Again, that one was mastered by Sony, but it didn't seem like too much happened to it on their end. Actually, Trek V has a very wide sound to it if you listen as opposed to Insurrection, which came later when, as Bruce has explained, Jerry kept wanting things wetter and wetter. If that one ever came up again I'd hope to find a drier 3-track mix to use. Trek V may be the widest sounding of all of the scores -- even the movie has an interesting mix with extreme panned dialogue much like a film from the '50s or '60s.he could be referring to inssurection of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 He WAS referring to Insurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I like Insurrection's sound mix. It's got a lush, dreamy quality.But if a rerelease happens and the mix is drier, I won't complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 He WAS referring to Insurrection.so...why did he say "again"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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