Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Jay said: Operation Dumbo Drop This score is so good. My favorite D. Newman score I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 OMG, I finally did it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Shame on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I know. 😝 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: This score is so good. My favorite D. Newman score I think. What rounds out your top 3 for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Jay said: What rounds out your top 3 for him? Hadn't really thought about it before. Probably Brave Little Toaster and Galaxy Quest. I have a lot of attachment to his Flintstones score for only nostalgic reasons. If you haven't heard Dumbo Drop before you really are in for a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I haven't. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Bespin said: OMG, I finally did it... How did you manage to get Angela's Ashes in both versions? I had to buy that score on Amazon three times, until I got the version without dialogue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: How did you manage to get Angela's Ashes in both versions? I had to buy that score on Amazon three times, until I got the version without dialogue! Well, I asked to the seller if it was the Decca version or not! 😋 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 What is the other label? Which one is with and which one without dialogue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: What is the other label? Which one is with and which one without dialogue? You know, a guy here, he did a superb discography... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Link? 1 minute ago, Bespin said: You know, a guy here, he did a superb discography... That depends. Is the E.T. OST considered a re-recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 LINK??? Seriously? You don't see my signature? No, this is the way I described the E.T. OST on my discography: *Mainly featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music, but this is not a re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Link? That depends. Is the E.T. OST considered a re-recording? It's more than 50% a rerecording. So in a binary world, which JWFan mostly is, the ET OST is a rerecording. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 NOT AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Jurassic Shark, a re-recording is when a new set of separate recording sessions occur weeks or months later, potentially with a different orchestra, to record selections from a film score for an album because they don't want to assemble an album from the film cues. In the case of ET, the concert arrangements were recorded along with all the film cues by the same orchestra in the same room with the same team. That score happens to have more concert arrangements written than the average Williams score, but its still not a re-recording by any stretch of the imagination. When it comes to JW, the only OST releases that were true re-recordings were Checkmate, Diamond Head, How To Steal A Million, Not With My Wife You Don't, Penelope, Fitzwilly, Jaws, Missouri Breaks, and The Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bespin said: Seriously? You don't see my signature? I switched them off in 2016 and don't know how to switch them back on. Completely forgot about signatures existing on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Click your own screen name in the upper right, then Account Settings, then Signautre Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bespin said: No, this is the way I described the E.T. OST on my discography: *Mainly featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music, but this is not a re-recording. Well, in that case it might be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: Well, in that case it might be superb. IT IS! http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/music/disco/albums.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Well, I made a joke that completely misfired. Anyway, I don't think it's correct to use the term rerecording for any of the JW OSTs. I find it more suitable to say "recorded specifically for the OST", and it doesn't really matter whether or not it was recorded with the same musicians and at the same sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 It matters if people watch a film and like the music in it, then go and buy the album and it sounds different. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 To me, it doesn't make sense to call it a rerecording if different forces were involved, and not a rerecording when different arrangements were recorded. In both cases it sounds different from what's heard in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Every John Williams score except for a handful have a combination of film cues and concert arrangements. ET is no exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: To me, it doesn't make sense to call it a rerecording if different forces were involved, and not a rerecording when different arrangements were recorded. In both cases it sounds different from what's heard in the film. Don't make a Thor of yourself, one is enough! I wonder... is E.T. actually the JW score with the most recorded and released "concert arrangements" (without counting the real re-recordings of course)? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Master and Commander, Legends of the Fall and Harry Potter (first). Found them in a charity shop, figured what the heck. Found some gems that way before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I wonder... is E.T. actually the JW score with the most recorded and released "concert arrangements" (without counting the real re-recordings of course)? C'mon Bes! You're the discographer aren't you? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,310 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I wonder... is E.T. actually the JW score with the most recorded and released "concert arrangements" (without counting the real re-recordings of course)? If you mean on the OST, then ROTJ wins. ET has 5 concert arrangements on the OST, while ROTJ has 5 1/2 (Parade of the Ewoks, Luke and Leia, The Forest Battle, Lapti Nek, Ewok Celebration, and part of Jabba The Hutt). Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Strangways said: Master and Commander, Legends of the Fall and Harry Potter (first). Found them in a charity shop, figured what the heck. Found some gems that way before. Legends of the Fall and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone are pretty great to put it mildly. I have never heard Master and Commander outside the film and can't remember very little of what I heard. But it is Christopher Gordon so it can't be all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 It's the best Christopher Gordon score, IMO, and certainly better than one of the other scores you're mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2018 I miss having HMV in Dublin! The Illustrious Jerry, Bespin, Sir Hilary Bray and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 10/4/2018 at 6:11 PM, Disco Stu said: Hadn't really thought about it before. Probably Brave Little Toaster and Galaxy Quest. I have a lot of attachment to his Flintstones score for only nostalgic reasons. If you haven't heard Dumbo Drop before you really are in for a treat. Love The Phantom myself. Probably my top DN score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 It was important for me to get this one, because it's truly a complete and real John Williams album, and moreover I count this CD as an original album of previously unreleased material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 14 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's the best Christopher Gordon score, IMO, and certainly better than one of the other scores you're mentioning. I saw it in HMV earlier but left it... is it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Bilbo said: I saw it in HMV earlier but left it... is it worth it? It's high up on my list of great soundtracks. Just listen to the whole thing yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 These SACD babies arrived just as I was opening my brand new LLL set of TITANIC. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 33 minutes ago, Amer said: These SACD babies arrived just as I was opening my brand new LLL set of TITANIC. So cool that SACD is still a thing. So sad that I recently sold my SACD player. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: So cool that SACD is still a thing. So sad that I recently sold my SACD player. Sorry to hear. I have Denon blu ray player which plays SACD as well as DVD-A. But it's entry level high grade player and gets the mileage. But I'd love to upgrade to an OPPO 203/5. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Made the decision to sell it as the only SACD titles I own are Kunzel 's Great Film Fantasies, E.T. 20th, Goldsmith's rejected Timeline and The Great Train Robbery (all of which are dual layer with CD capability). It was an easy decision as I have too many source components and barely use my hi-fi /home theatre anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Made the decision to sell it as the only SACD titles I own are Kunzel 's Great Film Fantasies, E.T. 20th, Goldsmith's rejected Timeline and The Great Train Robbery (all of which are dual layer with CD capability). It was an easy decision as I have too many source components and barely use my hi-fi /home theatre anymore. @davefg is looking for The Great Train Robbery. Amer and davefg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: @davefg is looking for The Great Train Robbery. Just checked on Amazon and saw someone's selling a used copy for over $100! Are they smoking their socks or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 minute ago, JTWfan77 said: Just checked on Amazon and saw someone's selling a used copy for over $100! Are they smoking their socks or something? Then you know what to charge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Just checked on Amazon and saw someone's selling a used copy for over $100! Are they smoking their socks or something? SACDs always sell at high prices in the secondary market once they sell out. I remember seeing E. T. 20th Anniversary selling for over $1200 on Amazon. Glad I got my copy in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Christ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 8:20 AM, Jurassic Shark said: It's the best Christopher Gordon score, IMO, and certainly better than one of the other scores you're mentioning. It's mostly glorified source music and cannot compare in the slightest to 'Moby Dick', 'On the Beach', 'Mao's Last Dancer' or that vampire movie which name i forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Mostly? Over half the duration of the OST consists of original compositions! Regarding the source music, I find it very well chosen for the film. I especially like the contrast between the source music and the comparatively modern sounding score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 'Original compositions' that sound like improvised drumming over generic orchestral chords. It was most disappointing after the other two Gordons back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I'll take "improvised" drumming over drum loops any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 And generic chords, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Well, most soundtracks contain lots of "generic" chords and progressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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