mstrox 6,651 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Small Soldiers was listed at the wrong price for a few minutes. See Yavar’s and Karol’s early posts in that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 So I take it both "The Cowboys" and "Small Soldiers" is now complete and chronological? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 The Cowboys is both complete and chronological. Small Soldiers is complete (not including some alternates that leaked out; the film version of every thing is here) but not quite chronological. Really short cues were moved around a bit for listening experience (kind of like their Gremlins 2 expansion). Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Ah well, good enough for me, and probably the best possible release (for SS) we can expect from Varese. Great that TC is complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 @Jay, do you know if the Overture is presented in identical takes on the new release and the old one? I ask because there's a low brass thud at 16s into the overture on the new release which I can't hear on the old. Check it out: New release: https://s3.amazonaws.com/022616club/cowboys+1.mp3 Old release: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Should be the same take of the overture. If you're hearing more instruments, it's likely just due to finally bring properly mixed Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 17 hours ago, Jay said: Should be the same take of the overture. If you're hearing more instruments, it's likely just due to finally bring properly mixed Are you sure? I ask because of Mike's statement: The fact is the Deluxe Edition is the first and only John Williams' approved version of The Cowboys. The 1994 release was done without his involvement, was incorrectly mixed, at the wrong speed with the wrong takes and made-up titles, with a track called "Overture" in the middle of the program and another track by a different composer erroneously added, making it actually a 28 minute album which, sorry to say, had basically nothing correct about it. Do you know which tracks had the wrong take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Yes. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28620-the-cowboys-1972-new-2018-varese-deluxe-edition/&do=findComment&comment=1495975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I'm not sure I want this or not. I've always been content with Track 2 of By Request. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Quote Ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to unveil our 40th Anniversary logo! Look for this on our upcoming 40th Anniversary soundtrack compilation which will include tracks from many wonderful composers. Details are forthcoming! https://twitter.com/VareseSarabande/status/1042481657595346944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've been hoping for another Club batch announcement. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Interresting! I'm hoping this compilation will be better than the previous ones, which frankly were a tad disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: I've been hoping for another Club batch announcement. Karol Hopefully we get one soon AND an end-of-year one, and not just one left for the year Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I'd rather they celebrated their anniversary with a bumper club batch rather than another compilation. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I'd rather they celebrated their anniversary with a bumper club batch rather than another compilation. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Every time someone posts something in this thread everyone is hoping for another Club batch. It would be really nice to see them return to three or even four batches a year. And every batch must have a Goldsmith title, every second batch a Poledouris title and every third batch a Silvestri title. That'd be awesome! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I hope they celebrate their anniversary with a new logo! Nothing else necessary, IMO. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, mstrox said: I hope they celebrate their anniversary with a new logo! Nothing else necessary, IMO. No no no even that is too much! We deserve nothing! We are not worthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Every Varese Club release is one score that cannot be released by LLL anytime soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Every Varese Club release is one score that cannot be released by LLL anytime soon! I'm confused. Most of what Varese releases in their Club now is stuff they hold rights to in perpetuity, so it's not like LLL has access to release them anyway -- this was decided a couple decades ago when Varese originally released their usually-30 minute album! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Moreover, their recent releases are great anyway! MM is involved a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Varese just announced on Twitter that they are releasing the soundtrack to Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas, a world premiere release! This post has been brought to you by the one person on this board who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Hehe, I remember that being discussed on one of the movie podcasts I listen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, mstrox said: Varese just announced on Twitter that they are releasing the soundtrack to Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas, a world premiere release! This post has been brought to you by the one person on this board who cares. What am I, chopped liver? Though Emmet Otter's not a particular favorite of mine as far as the Henson library goes. Tale of the Bunny Picnic is where it's at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 you're a pain in the NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I'll throw soft objects at the next person who bumps this thread without news of an imminent club release Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: I'll throw soft objects at the next person who bumps this thread without news of an imminent club release The only Goldsmith releases we need are Mulan and The Swarm, and neither of those would be coming from Varese. So, chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, kaseykockroach said: The only Goldsmith releases we need are Mulan and The Swarm Get off my message board! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I want Air Force One more! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I'll throw soft objects at the next person who bumps this thread without news of an imminent club release New club batch incoming - all based on puppet-centric holiday specials! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I want Lionheart - by Varese or by Tadlow, I don't care, but I want it! And I want [insert shitload of Goldsmith titles owned by Varese in perpetuity and still not expanded]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 What's missing from Lionheart that you NEED to hear? A 25-second alternate cue, syth demo? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Well for Lionheart a complete score would so just fine for those of us who don't own any of the previous albums. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Then buy the album(s)! They're perfect in terms of sound and cues chosen! For grop's sake, at least an album even exists for a score you like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Then buy the album(s)! They're perfect in terms of sound and cues chosen! For grop's sake, at least an album even exists for a score you like! Too much risk and too pricy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 25$ ain't so bad, though I get what you mean. Once upon a time, I bought the album for Ghost and the Darkness only for Intrada to put it out a couple weeks later (and this was a case where the complete score was unquestionably better than the album). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 If one combines Vol. 1, and Vol. 2 of LIONHEART, how much is missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I'm pretty sure just a few seconds from the end of The Future, since it's crossfaded into the beginning of the finale cue (which is a repeat since it's on the other volume as well). Otherwise between the two volumes we're supposed to have the complete score -- of course there may be unused cues or alternates which would necessitate a second disc, but if not, it should all fit on a single one removing that finale repeat. Yavar Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Richard said: If one combines Vol. 1, and Vol. 2 of LIONHEART, how much is missing? Not much, apparently. I'd still buy a new, remastered/complete release. And definitely a better performed re-recording (the same goes for Rambo III. Naïve Old Fart, Incanus and Yavar Moradi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted September 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2018 If someone ever re-records Rambo III I desperately hope they stick a new recording of the Rambo: First Blood Part II end credits on there! I need that in great sound! Yavar Pieter Boelen, Marian Schedenig and Brundlefly 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Yeah it's a nice track that one. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Not much, apparently. I'd still buy a new, remastered/complete release. And definitely a better performed re-recording (the same goes for Rambo III. Ditto. A re-recording would be fantastic but is there anyone who could get those vintage Goldsmith synths right. Perhaps Leigh Phillips who recreated the synth work for Damnation Alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Fuck the synth stuff. We already have that on the original and it really doesn't add much more than distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: Fuck the synth stuff. We already have that on the original and it really doesn't add much more than distraction. Well yes. Quite. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, publicist said: Fuck the synth stuff. We already have that on the original and it really doesn't add much more than distraction. But the synths are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Minority opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Why don't you like the synths? The synths are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The cheap Casio trumpets and goofy horn and ram's horn samples do not help matters. There are some discreet pipe sounds, i. e. in 'The Lake' that could easily be recreated but the others are mostly awful. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, publicist said: The cheap Casio trumpets and goofy horn and ram's horn samples Like the Warlock synth trumpets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Nahhhh it adds to its character. I wouldn't have it any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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