Intrada presents Spacecamp

[King Mark 3,630]

Ok so there's only one unreleased 45 second fanfare I wanted ..but it's a good one

[MissPadmé 17]

Well I think this was the big Williams release and we can kiss Family Plot and Hook goodbye fore a few years.

I said in an earlier thread it was going a re-issue and every self respecting Williams fan probably d/led MP3's of it already

LALA Land has still one for us, they announced 2 scores - we only had Poseidon Adventure so far..

[King Mark 3,630]

Re-issues are more "shelf fillers" than anything else. Nothing we never heard before. So I hope we still something good this year

[John Crichton 4]

Re-issues are more "shelf fillers" than anything else. Nothing we never heard before.

You forget that they're great chances for those of us that haven't been around as long to pick up official copies. I'm very happy to be replacing my CD-R.

[Trent B 337]

You really are paranoid KM. If they couldn't include previously unreleased music in these new releases because of rights issues, than DEAL WITH IT and freaking move on. Other CD's have had the same damn issue, it's not just John Williams releases.

Get over yourself all ready, shit.

[King Mark 3,630]

Well I purchased it so I'm allowed to complain about it. Why am I not allowed to do so?

Anyways as I said I initially thought it wasn't remastered...but since it is it's a bit better

[indy4 155]

Officially ordered! Can't wait to hear this.

[Romão 2,274]

If La la Land release Towering Inferno later on in the year as I suspect they will, I will then own every JW score that has ever been released on cd. It's great for this music to be widely available (at least for now), after all these years.

[King Mark 3,630]

If Towering Inferno is the next big Williams release I'll just copy and paste my comments from this thread

I guess when they mean upcoming Williams releases now it means limited editions that were previously sold out with some sound tinkering to make you buy it again

[Romão 2,274]

It would be a pretty great release. I didn't even know limited editions existed when it was released, so I would really welcome the chance to own this music in a legitimate format (as would many, I'm sure)

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I want the complete Towering Inferno in better sound quality and with the original album presentation.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

So, um, how long does everyone think Spacecamp will last?

[Incanus 5,714]

Ordered!

I also took this opporturnity to finally order Amazing Stories Anthology Vol. 3.

[Matt C 452]

So, um, how long does everyone think Spacecamp will last?

A day or two.

I remember one scene in the movie, where the shuttle finally clears the atmosphere and the music cues in as Kate Capshaw murmurs "Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we've achieved orbit." And the samples sound great, so I bought a copy.

And if it sells out as fast as "Baby", "Predator" and "House of Cards" -- expect Christian Clemmenson to bitch over that too.

[Jay 37,336]

Ordered mine direct from Intrada, looking forward to hearing it very much, and especially reading the liner notes. I wonder if they will catalog the additional cues that could not be included.

[publicist 4,643]

Honestly, i like the sound from my old japanese CD well enough. It's a lovely score, though.

[Incanus 5,714]

Ordered mine direct from Intrada, looking forward to hearing it very much, and especially reading the liner notes. I wonder if they will catalog the additional cues that could not be included.

Yeah I ordered direct from Intrada too. The reissues from specialty labels always has the bonus of good liner notes.

And think they might mention the missing music in passing as they did with Monsignor and not make a huge deal about it.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Ordered!

*trashes footwarmer*

I won't bother with KM's sentiments.

[Incanus 5,714]

I guess when they mean upcoming Williams releases now it means limited editions that were previously sold out with some sound tinkering to make you buy it again

Or make you buy it for the first time KM. Not all of us had the opporturnity to get Space Camp, Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure etc. upon their first release. I know that those who got those scores when they first came out may feel a bit cheated but I'd imagine there were fans who did not get a copy back then plus now there are all those who want to discover these scores for the first time.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Just ordered it. Seems like a highly demanded score.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

For good reason. 1,000 copies of a JW score released only in Japan?

[Sandor 797]

Ordered.

[King Mark 3,630]

I guess when they mean upcoming Williams releases now it means limited editions that were previously sold out with some sound tinkering to make you buy it again

Or make you buy it for the first time KM. Not all of us had the opporturnity to get Space Camp, Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure etc. upon their first release. I know that those who got those scores when they first came out may feel a bit cheated but I'd imagine there were fans who did not get a copy back then plus now there are all those who want to discover these scores for the first time.

What I mean is that if there's a hint of a new Williams release ,it doesn't mean we'll get something new,just a re-issue or something re-mastered

[fommes 153]

Face it everyone, KM is the expression of the subconscious of all of us; we just don't say it out loud because being positive is supposed to be the decent and obedient thing to do.

And there's no denying that it is indeed a stroke of bad luck that a large number of Williams releases are reissues, which I would have loved to see expanded myself (esp. Witches of Eastwick and Monsignor, and yes I know the latter only has like 3 minutes of unreleased material), while virtually all the Goldsmith releases have been complete releases. If it had been the reverse, I'm sure the FSM board would have seen armageddon already, so it's not like we should create an uproar about complaining just a teensy bit here and there.

That said, we've had a number of great releases like Black Sunday and Poseidon Adventure this year already, and I'm over the moon with SpaceCamp. I was also very happy to get all these reissues, because I was too late to buy the original CDs, and I just realized that SpaceCamp was the only left of his post-1980 scores to get (officially). Excellent!

I hope it sticks around until at least tomorrow though.

[Incanus 5,714]

Face it everyone, KM is the expression of the subconscious of all of us; we just don't say it out loud because being positive is supposed to be the decent and obedient thing to do.

And there's no denying that it is indeed a stroke of bad luck that a large number of Williams releases are reissues, which I would have loved to see expanded myself (esp. Witches of Eastwick and Monsignor, and yes I know the latter only has like 3 minutes of unreleased material), while virtually all the Goldsmith releases have been complete releases. If it had been the reverse, I'm sure the FSM board would have seen armageddon already, so it's not like we should create an uproar about complaining just a teensy bit here and there.

That said, we've had a number of great releases like Black Sunday and Poseidon Adventure this year already, and I'm over the moon with SpaceCamp. I was also very happy to get all these reissues, because I was too late to buy the original CDs, and I just realized that SpaceCamp was the only left of his post-1980 scores to get (officially). Excellent!

I hope it sticks around until at least tomorrow though.

Yes KM might be channeling our collective displeasure but I think most of the Williams re-releases of LP/older CD presentations we have gotten in recent years have had a good (even if unfortunate) reason. Either some studio troubles have stopped the complete release or the it has been about money or the surviving masters only contained the LP release or there has been other odd entanglements or the producers have not had a complete release in their sights in the first place (not all releases have been from the most ardent specialty labels like the Witches of Eastwick from Collector's Choice, which by the way, treated Goldsmith's Capricorn One the same way, offering the original re-recording presentation instead of the complete score (that had been released earlier though).

Horner has had similar cases in the Intrada collection where not a complete score but an album compiled by Horner has been produced so it is not just JW related woe.

Of course getting these scores in complete form would be wonderful but when that is not possible I take the album presentation over nothing any day.

[Josh500 1,615]

Sold!

For good reason. 1,000 copies of a JW score released only in Japan?

Wasn't Japan the only country in the world that had an official JW club too? I've read somewhere that JW even composed a small theme for that club...

[MissPadmé 17]

Well I purchased it so I'm allowed to complain about it. Why am I not allowed to do so?

Anyways as I said I initially thought it wasn't remastered...but since it is it's a bit better

You are allowed to complain about everything youi want.

And we are allowed to complain about your complaining

The question is, is it necessary to suspect a Goldsmith FSM conspiracy theory behind every one of these releases?

People, for example complaining about the Batman 2CD sound quality, forget one thing:

PREFESSIONALS are working on these releases, professionals that care about music and know and care about the fans.

They do what they can to get so many things released in the best way possible and I think in that way we can trust them. To me it still is a great miracle, that I can listen to the soundtrack to "Lust for Life", a film I adored as a kid, and I never thought there would ever be any interest in releasing a CD.

Those people are magnificent guys, that share our love for filmmusic, and really.... ask yourself: how do you think their mind goes?

"Uuuuhhhm a Williams score, are there any album masters left, because that would save us some time? anyway, let's just rebuild the album...who cares"

"Whoooah yeaaah Goldsmith, let's get every and I mean EVERY coughing that was recorded onto this album!!"

If a label releases "just" a reissue, they have a VERY good reason for it.

That's nothing to be annoyed, but to be thankful ... well that's how my mind works..

[Melange 446]

"Puuuuuut Maaaaaax into Spaaaaaace!"

[Wojo 2,453]

I'm pleased it was released. Is it JW's best score? Nope, but it's long overdue.

I haven't seen the movie since 1994 and don't want to again, so I won't bitch about it being complete or not. It's much, much easier to deal with it if you distance yourself from the movie, and then the soundtrack becomes all there is, and much easier to enjoy for what it is.

[Quintus 5,399]

It wouldn't be the same around here without KM's complaining. I'm always amused by his rants and would miss them if he kept them to himself. Let's face it: John Williams could present the complete Harry Potter scores on a silver platter, IN PERSON, to KM... and he'd still find something to moan about.

"It's too long, there's too much music... it's gonna take me forever to re-sequence all these cues into correct chronological order".

[Ollie 1,059]

Of course people forget when this expanded run started, Williams was pretty much the first to get his scores out there.

Quite a few of the Goldsmith releases we've been seeing were never released originally.

I think the general consensus is that Williams is one of the best at putting together an album. Williams was also very generous with the music on his albums. So perhaps when it came time for The Accidental Tourist, Lukas Kendall felt that maybe the missing music from the album wasn't enough or too repetitive to include, plus the album is strong. Didn't Doug Fake mention that the original score to Monsignor contained 3 to 4 unreleased minutes, but it was actually shorter than what appeared on the original album?

We are still missing music from ST:TMP, The Omen, The Final Conflict, The Great Train Robbery, not to mention missing elements from Under Fire and Damnation Alley.

Williams also appears to have some influence over certain scores and the studios he did a majority of his work for were not ones who were that interested in releasing expanded scores until recently.

[publicist 4,643]

Goldsmith just scored more movies, period.

Besides, are people now seriously getting up in arms that stuff like ACCIDENTAL TOURIST isn't longer? We have come a long way since the STAR WARS anthology, it seems.

[filmmusic 1,825]

ordered!

For anyone that hasn't seen Spacecamp I suggest that you do. this was one of my favourite films in my childhood, and it still has the same effect until today that I'm watching it..

I always wondered why many people say it's a lousy movie..

what is lousy? the effects? the acting? the script?

Well, i don't think it pretended to be something else than it is..

[Matt C 452]

If a label releases "just" a reissue, they have a VERY good reason for it.

That's nothing to be annoyed, but to be thankful ... well that's how my mind works..

Well put, MissPadme. I was absolutely ecstatic when I heard Concord was releasing "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" -- I didn't care less if it was expanded or not. For me, it was like everyone else's "Spacecamp" -- I was happy to be able to get a pressed CD at a fraction of the eBayed Japanese imports' prices.

[Wojo 2,453]

Wow. Just...wow.

[Trent Hoyt 13]

Ordered.

[Demondm810 399]

Yay! Shipping notice already!

[TownerFan 4,983]

Less than 300 remaining at Intrada. Better you hurry up if you want it.

[Omen II 1,235]

I nearly forgot about this and raced to my computer when I remembered, just in time by the look of things. I've always resisted the temptation to acquire the various unmentionables of this score that have been in circulation for the last few years, so am familiar only with the music that Erich Kunzel recorded. This is the only Williams score CD I never had, so I am very much looking forward to hearing it.

The first time I watched this movie was on the last day of term at school one year, when a classmate brought in a pirate copy of the video (those were the days!) and asked the teacher if we could watch it. Once she had accepted assurances that it was not a porno, we were allowed to do so. I do recall everyone in the class started sniggering when that extra with the poodle perm* breaks down in tears of joy when the shuttle survives whatever jeopardy it was in at the end.

* She may not have had a poodle perm, but it was 1986 so that's how I remember it.

[Marian Schedenig 8,191]

Anyways as I said I initially thought it wasn't remastered...but since it is it's a bit better

I guess when they mean upcoming Williams releases now it means limited editions that were previously sold out with some sound tinkering to make you buy it again

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I listened to the original edition of this a bit earlier. I was kind of bored, I think I need to give it another chance.

[King Mark 3,630]

There's one or 2 boring tracks in the second half.

Other than that you can't get more classic sounding JW than this score

[Demondm810 399]

It really shines when arranged in film order.

[John Crichton 4]

Training Montage is an all time classic.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Can't wait to queue it up with Banning Back Home, Escape from the Basket and Orlando Pops John Williams interpretations.

And ANOTHER title sells out ridiculously fast. It's become a lifestyle to stay glued to the computer in the hours surrounding the release of new CDs. Don't want to miss out on anything.

"Hey, man. We're all going to see The Expendables."

"Sorry, Intrada is releasing a new CD."

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

Ordered mine last night!

I'm kinda baffled that any Williams fan could pass on this... but it will be a pointless argument here in a few hours anyway, so I'm not even gonna try to persuade anyone.

And for the completists (or rather, complete-as-can-be-ists): the film also features Clapton's "Forever Man", and Dire Straits' "Walk of Life" and "So Far Away" (although I don't recall off the top of my head where that last one appeared).

[Matt C 452]

Well, it's official: SPACECAMP is sold out, at Intrada's official site and SAE. MovieMusic still has preorder copies available.

[Datameister 2,041]

No surprise there! I'm glad I picked it up while it lasted, and I hope there weren't too many would-be buyers who missed out on the announcement by sheer bad luck. It's also nice to see these sell out because it makes sends a clear message to anyone who'll listen that there is still a market, even for obscure titles. If all 3000 copies of a release like SpaceCamp can sell out in one day, imagine how fast genuine complete soundtracks for the Star Wars prequels would go, especially if they were limited.

[Trent B 337]

Not surprised it sold nearly as fast as Predator.

[Wojo 2,453]

I was tempted to buy a second copy to sell back later, but figured I'd feel too lazy to bother when the price climbs.