BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 It's a really effective theme and very well used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Listened to the Wonder Woman score. Some fine moments, but for me it's just more RC-style music with loud noises, repeating percussion loops, and a lot of ear bursting action music. Wonder Woman's theme doesn't even seem to get an orchestral version disappointingly enough, and they still use that very inappropriate electric cello. Meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Why is the electric cello inappropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Why is the electric cello inappropriate? Maybe not inappropriate, I just don't think it fits the character very-well. I'd prefer Wonder Woman's theme to be more mythological and epic sounding honestly, not some Zimmer style trailer cello music, as fun as it may be. Though that's just me personally, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - Geoff Zanelli It doesn't reset the bar, musically, for the series. It sounds pretty consistent -- brainless entertainment but nothing else. Zanelli incorporates Zimmer's themes liberally throughout -- the main theme, Jack's, and both versions of Will/Elizabeth's love theme. It's less of a phoned in effort than "On Stranger Tides", but Zanelli doesn't develop a voice of his own. If you didn't read the credits, it sounds like Zimmer wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Matt C said: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - Geoff Zanelli If you didn't read the credits, it sounds like Zimmer wrote it. I think that was just what they were going for. The Spitfire Grill by James Horner: A lovely little low-key Horner score with a bit of a folksy twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I was expecting more from Zanelli to be honest. It wouldn't really matter if it sounded different or it had more of its own themes. Who's gonna complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 29/05/2017 at 7:42 AM, Incanus said: The score alternates between broadcasting the olfactory sensations through music, which is perhaps its strongest suit with beautiful choral work, the murderous off-kilter suspense that has the pulsing undercurrent that works as an effective musical trigger and the somewhat less succesful faux-classical seriousness of the more melodramatic parts. Overall I do like the music quite a bit and there is a nice dramatic arc to it on the album. Something between ominous and beautiful. Thanks for that! Not a bad assessment of the score. 3 hours ago, Brónach said: I was expecting more from Zanelli to be honest. It wouldn't really matter if it sounded different or it had more of its own themes. Who's gonna complain? Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Bruckheimer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is Secret Window available on CD anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Titus by Elliot Goldenthal Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The Big Brawl - Lalo Schifrin. Fun stuff. It's basically a follow-up to Enter The Dragon, similar to how Brubaker is kinda like Cool Hand Luke 2.0. The user who uploaded the Japanese only release on youtube deserves a cookie. Now if it only would get a proper re-release. The sound sucks! 19 hours ago, Matt C said: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - Geoff Zanelli It doesn't reset the bar, musically, for the series. It sounds pretty consistent -- brainless entertainment but nothing else. Zanelli incorporates Zimmer's themes liberally throughout -- the main theme, Jack's, and both versions of Will/Elizabeth's love theme. It's less of a phoned in effort than "On Stranger Tides", but Zanelli doesn't develop a voice of his own. If you didn't read the credits, it sounds like Zimmer wrote it. I listened to parts of the latest POTC score two days ago. It sounded very forgettable. It just basically feels like a Zimmer clone score, composed by someone who was obviously a protege / ghost-writer of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Still, this protege had previously written fun music for the franchise (some of the best, I'd even say). But for some reason, when he was given the opportunity to be in the forefront, he didn't deliver the goods. A shame, really. I just think he was following studio demands to retread the themes, for better or mostly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's kinda like a balancing act you might say. I'm sure Zanelli wanted to write his own themes, but he's loyal enough to Zimmer and Disney, that he just decided to use the pre-existing themes. Frustrating to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Isnt Zanelli nothing more than just another RCP stooge? Why are people surprised that he used the themes of his Overlord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: Well, Zannelli did write new themes. They're just not particularly interesting. His "new themes" (I swear there was like only two), just feel RC leftovers if you ask me, so yeah not exactly the most "engaging" of material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It did sound like it was written for a POTC video game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Isnt Zanelli nothing more than just another RCP stooge? Why are people surprised that he used the themes of his Overlord? Eh, some of Zimmer's proteges have gone on and to try and do their own thing to varying degrees of success. Zanelli only recently seems to have broken from Zimmer, so I'm not surprised he so faithful to themes of the recent POTC film. Or perhaps we should rage against the Zimmering of the light, if people would prefer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Midnight Run - Danny Elfman Remember when action comedies seemed to be scored exclusively using guitar slides? I feel like the sound heard here at 4:20 was used in a hundred films Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Godzilla said: Is Secret Window available on CD anywhere? No, but there's a bootleg out there with Zanelli's score and Glass' score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Midnight Run - Danny Elfman Remember when action comedies seemed to be scored exclusively using guitar slides? I feel like the sound heard here at 4:20 was used in a hundred films Sounds typically 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Yup. Just interesting how these very specific techniques become ubiquitous and then are gone just as quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 This week's program: John Williams - Tintin John Williams - War Horse John Williams - Lincoln Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Star Wars: A New Hope by J. Williams I found this album at HPB cheap, though I'm not sure which release it is (16 tracks)...It's growing on me. I think I always pressured myself into loving these holy grails (I feel similar anxieties with other really popular scores), but I've been calming down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Star Trek: Insurrection by Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Star Wars: A New Hope by J. Williams I found this album at HPB cheap, though I'm not sure which release it is (16 tracks)...It's growing on me. I think I always pressured myself into loving these holy grails (I feel similar anxieties with other really popular scores), but I've been calming down a bit. I think it's the original 2-LP program. Great! Star Wars [Original Motion Picture Soundtrack] (1977, 20th Century Records, L 45753/4 [2T-54]; London SO/Williams) DISC 1: Main Title; Imperial Attack; Princess Leia's Theme; The Desert And The Robot Auction; Ben's Death And TIE Fighter Attack; The Little People Work; Rescue Of The Princess; Inner City; Cantina Band; DISC 2: The Land Of The Sand People; Mouse Robot And Blasting Off; The Return Home; The Walls Converge; The Princess Appears; The Last Battle; The Throne Room And End Title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Knockabout comedy! 12 hours ago, Bespin said: John Williams - Tintin John Williams - War Horse John Williams - Lincoln Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Keeping this program for later today. This morning I listen to the OST Star Wars program (the 2016 remastered digital version), but in my playlist, I replace the theme (using the one from the Anthology Boxset, it has the same edit... but better done than the one on the OST) and the Throne Room (taking it from the Special Edition). Ultimately, someday, a kind of Mike Matessino will "reconstruct" the OST program using the best source possible... I hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think if Disney ever hires him to tackle the SW scores, he'd have room to rebuild the OST in a 2CD set. Disc 1 = The complete FILM score, no Cantina Band or Princess Leia's Theme, but there IS room for the Binary Sunset alternate Disc 2 = The original 1977 LP program PLUS Cantina Band #2 as a bonus track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 This cue is amazing, long and amazingly long. Faleel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted June 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2017 #Bad movie, great score KK, Incanus and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Always depressed by how little luck he's had in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Always depressed by how little luck he's had in Hollywood. Has he been keen on trying his hand at more film projects? The Patriot by John Williams: Even at its most rousing there is something comforting about John Williams' Americana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Always depressed by how little luck he's had in Hollywood. I don't think Hollywood is designed for the way he works. It would have been nice if he found one regular collaborator that fit with his ethic so we could hear him peak into this world more often (a la Greenwood/PTA or Johannsson/Villeneuve). Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 The Champ - Dave Grusin - Good stuff. Sentimental themes mixed in with 70's funk, but it works. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Journey by Austin Wintory Abzû by Austin Wintory A pretty brilliant pair I would say. Taikomochi and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Those two go beautifully together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: The Champ - Dave Grusin - Good stuff. Sentimental themes mixed in with 70's funk, but it works. Dave Grusin has always been criminally underrated. Do you like his solo stuff, especially his recordings for GRP? ONE OF A KIND is fantastic. Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, Richard said: Dave Grusin has always been criminally underrated. Do you like his solo stuff, especially his recordings for GRP? ONE OF A KIND is fantastic. He does have an Oscar at least, so it's not like the industry hates him or anything. He's also scored a lot of a hit films. He's sadly neglected these days. I think it's because people see him as a lounge jazz kind of guy where there's more to him then that. Yeah I've listened to some of his solo records too. Good stuff, especially Migration. Dig those synths! My favorite Grusin scores are On Golden Pond, The Goonies, Mulholland Falls, Heaven Can Wait, The Champ, Three Days of The Condor, Havana, and so on. His collaborations with Sydney Pollack produced some great work. One score of his I'd love to see a release of (even though the tapes are lost), that I listened to some exerts some of taken from the DVD is, Murder By Death. Like The Goonies it sounds like its a bit more of an orchestral affair as opposed to be "jazzy", and based off what I've listened to as well, a lot of fun. Again shame the tapes are lost though. Great composer though. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Nice, Fancy, but...no love for THE FABULOUS BAKER BOYS? Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 2:18 AM, Incanus said: Has he been keen on trying his hand at more film projects? As KK said, I expect it would take the right director, if one exists. Wonder what Terry Malick is up to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Angela's Ashes by John Williams: Aah music for my soul... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: As KK said, I expect it would take the right director, if one exists. Wonder what Terry Malick is up to.... Working with Hanan Townshend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Malick and Corigliano together...the possibilities... Though I seriously doubt Corigliano would have the patience to deal with most of his work being thrown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, KK said: Malick and Corigliano together...the possibilities... Though I seriously doubt Corigliano would have the patience to deal with most of his work being thrown out. Yeah with Malick that is more the norm than the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I wasn't sure where to put this, but you can hear, in bad quality, the La La Land overture, which was excised from the final film, right here, from the recent live-to-picture presentation (which Hurwitz conducted): You can also hear some (newly written?) entr'acte music at the end. Oh, you can also hear "Overture" here, perhaps in better quality, plus with video: As you can see here, it was not quite a "normal" LTP concert -- it had dancers (and seemingly singers as well) on stage: Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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