Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: My copy doesn't have any problems. May I have your booklet then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Roar! (The Cloverfield Overture) by Michael Giacchino 10 Cloverfield Lane by 🐻 McCreary The Cloverfield Paradox by 🐻 McCreary Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: May I have your booklet then? I am afraid not. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 15/04/2018 at 9:36 PM, Jay said: John Williams - The Accidental Tourist Lovely. Really, Jay? "Lovely"? The score's a mini chuffin' masterpiece, and all you can say is "lovely"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Richard said: Really, Jay? "Lovely"? The score's a mini chuffin' masterpiece, and all you can say is "lovely"? Would have preferred him to remark that "it's alright"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 That's your line, stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 It's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Not bad. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Very repetitive. Not Mr. Big and Simon McBride 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 A mini chuffin' masterpiece, and make no mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The music has a typical Sunday feel to it, and I don't like Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 From almost the same year and completely ill-served by a movie its own production company found so irrelevant it played only for three days in Canada, 'Lionheart' is and always will be, next to Rózsa's 'Ivanhoe' my all-time favourite knight score. After Goldsmith's scores became idiomatically bigger in the mid-70's, with a heavy emphasis on french impressionism, he accordingly ventured into a leitmotivic approach he personally was not very fond of when the movie required it (Lionheart does in spades) - the results were always stellar, even when working under strained conditions like here. Franklin J. Schaffner, who frankly had seen better days and filming a lackluster script that may not be as awful as some will have you believe but hardly worth the time of such a talented old craftsman, did this medieval adventure in eastern Europe (to save a few pennies) and Goldsmith also went to Budapest (the second time after 'King Solomon's Mines', another full-blown adventure score). The story of a young but not very promising knight (Eric Stoltz) sent out to prove himself, assembling a Robin Hood-like band of children joining him on a wee 'crusade' or rather, trotting along uninviting romanian landscapes, battling a demonic child-snatching Gabriel Byrne begged for not much, musically, but it's a textbook example of Goldsmith wildly (wonderfully) overreaching to make up for the movie's shortcomings while intelligently keeping his orchestral apparatus airy and appropriately 'young' instead of bombastic. So yes, you probably enjoy this score much more if you never ventured to Youtube to watch the movie. All themes relating to Robert Nerra, the Stoltz character, are built on a characteristic three-note call. Often used as heroic fanfare it's the building block for a long, stately hymnal tune (the main theme, often joined by a chattering woodwinds representing the wandering children), a minor-drenched love theme for Nerra and his lady (one of Goldsmith's most convincing creations, considering love themes were not exactly his forte) and a faintly medieval questing motif. That's already quite a line-up, though 'Lionheart' offers riches beyond, especially a wonderful english folk tune enlarged for full orchestra for a warrior girl (Mathilda) and of course, a darkly Orffian chant for the Black Prince (with three or four other ideas for locations and situations dynamically interacting). That you never would mistake these pieces for anyone but Goldsmith is a given, but still, the painterly splendor he achieves in a succession of long set pieces is quite something. Chief among the scores highlights are 'The Banner', which midway through its noble horn recitation of the main theme goes into a bright crusader's fanfare (it's Rambo in the middle ages) before closing with a joyful medieval dance, the aforementioned 'Mathilda' cue, a wild, cheerful battle between hers and Lionheart's theme that should be studied by young composers for virtuosity's sake, and finally, 'King Richard', linked above, a finale that really does nothing wrong in terms of epic closure and variation, bringing the hymnal tune to a giant conclusion. The much-maligned playing by the Hungarian State Opera Orchestra is fair (they sometimes flub in up-front brass parts which are painful, as 50 seconds into 'The Wrong Flag') but on the whole, they keep up in other complicated parts well. Goldsmith still overdubbed them with synths in many spots, probably because of dissatisfaction but also because he was just too damn fond of his Yamaha's then and the results are often not pretty. The new ultra-clean digital recording techniques add an overt brightness (up-trebling without depth in the bass) that is still more than listenable but make me long for a new recording with better rehearsed musicians and minus the brass synth doublings sound awful and frankly do not contribute anything. But even without such super-worthy project, Varése's multiple releases of this score belong into any self-respecting film music collection. Naïve Old Fart and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard said: Really, Jay? "Lovely"? The score's a mini chuffin' masterpiece, and all you can say is "lovely"? Masterpiece? I dunno about that. It's quite nice though, I liked it a lot. I'd buy an expanded reissue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 There's not much to expand, but, yes, so would I, Jay...in a heartbeat. The score currently resides at #7 in my JW top-ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 '95' by Panu Aaltio. Sounds good so far. I've been a big fan of Aaltio since his Tale of a Forest score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Ducktales: The Movie by David Newman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The Godfather Part 2 The Last Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Good day. Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Planet Earth (soundtracks) all in on rent, along with The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey (film)!!! Returned samplers The Phantom Menace and the Desolation of Smaug (soundtracks) in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: It's got a Cheddar factor that's off the chart, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Cheddar monster movie music is my favorite music after cartoon scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Black Panther by Ludwig Goransson. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Evolution by John Powell Funny memory with this one...as a kid, obviously long before I got into film scores, I rented the movie at the library (out of obligation to rent and/or buy every single monster movie that caught my youthful gaze). I don't know if it'd hold up or not upon a revisit, but I found it really fun as a tyke. The score got my attention (especially the glorious fanfare at that climactic slime monster explosion), but because I was/am an idiot, I assumed it was John Williams doing the music. Because pre-teen me assumed every single good music in a movie was done by that John Williams guy. Yes, including The Lion King. I don't know why I didn't bother reading film credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Dixon Hill and Koray Savas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 John Williams - Saving Private Ryan In honor of the 20th anniversary and because I hadn't listened in a while. Still the subdued score I remembered, but picked up on some nice passages I want to revisit this time. Brad Fiedel - The Terminator (OST) Heh, hadn't listened to this in forever. 20 minute score selection is brilliant, captures every major idea of the full score! The pop songs from side B were garbage. John Williams - The Force Awakens My first time listening since really getting to know the Last Jedi score. It's funny, now when I hear Rey's Theme get a long-lined treatment in this score, I expect in my head for it to transition to the Luke in Exile/Island theme from TLJ, but it never does! I really dug the action music this time more than ever, especially I Can Fly Anything and Follow Me / The Falcon John Williams - The Post Short and sweet and very enjoyable. OST album is so nicely arranged. Nobuo Uematsu - Final Fantasy V A hidden gem of the SNES era for me. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Chariots of Fire, by Vangelis Yes, the 80s synth sounds a little dated nowadays, but it's still a wonderful, uplifting score for an inspiring film. "Abraham's Theme" is ethereal. **** and 1/2 out of ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 The Ten Commandments Ben-Hurray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Sharky said: Now you're digging deep brother. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, TGP said: Now you're digging deep brother. I only discovered Stearns last December through the The Beacon (one of my favourite moments in Cameron's Titanic edit/mix), and now I'm in love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 What's so great about that? Static spheres that do not move and world music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 20 hours ago, John said: Chariots of Fire, by Vangelis Yes, the 80s synth sounds a little dated nowadays, but it's still a wonderful, uplifting score for an inspiring film. "Abraham's Theme" is ethereal. **** and 1/2 out of ***** It's a truly great score, and it fully deserved its Oscar, but it's a crying shame that there's so much unreleased music. I thought that the DELECTUS box would correct that, but, sadly, no. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, publicist said: What's so great about that? Static spheres that do not move and world music. It's Sharky's bag now! He digs it! Pops Britannia: A lovely little album of British and British Isles inspired music which of course for a Williams fan has the added allure of the only recording of his Jane Eyre Suite which is terrific. War of the Worlds by John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,499 Posted April 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2018 The Fellowship of the Ring CR What a legendary score. Hearing Parth Galen/The Departure of Borimir/The Breaking of the Fellowship live at an LTP event is an experience I never plan on forgetting. Even after listening to this illegally for years, almost knowing it inside out, hyping myself up even more when I bought Doug's book for Christmas, I'm completely overwhelmed that I can finally hold this incredible and beautiful set in my hands and put it on my shelf next to the EE DVDs, and putting a disc in whenever I want to. I do have some nitpicks with the way the music's presented across the discs, but for now I just willingly oppress them in my head. Can't wait for the next two reissues! Jay, crocodile and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, Incanus said: War of the Worlds by John Williams. I hope LLL team have their eyes on this one. Very underrated score. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Jurassic World (Recording Session) by Michael Giacchino Better than the album presentation, it has a great action themes, great use of the old themes, and a really nice collection of new themes (I really like the raptors theme). I hope Giacchino delivers on the sequel and develops all of this themes, and also it would be great if he could create something like the Island Fanfare but for the new trilogy. Kasey Kockroach and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I like the album presentation, but it had felt weird how short it is compared to Williams' JP albums (57 minutes VS 70ish minutes), so I made my own expanded album awhile ago. Didn't feel the need to include every cue, just enough to make the listening experience feel more...fleshed out, I suppose? I really hope Fallen Kingdom's score is even better. Has every reason to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 It really is a great score. Much better than many here make it out to be. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 My only qualm is the sound quality being dry as always, but I imagine Giacchino fans are accustomed to that. At least it doesn't sound like John Carter though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I'm not a huge fan of the Jurassic World OST, but MAN did my opinion of the score improve when we got the session leak! He really didn't make the best choices of what to include on the OST program on that one. I'm very much looking forward to the Jurassic World 2 score, it has potential to be pretty epic and fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 World Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 14 hours ago, publicist said: What's so great about that? Static spheres that do not move and world music. Says the man who waxed-poetic over Marty O'Donnell's sphericity. Spheres before swine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Jay said: I'm not a huge fan of the Jurassic World OST, but MAN did my opinion of the score improve when we got the session leak! He really didn't make the best choices of what to include on the OST program on that one. I'm very much looking forward to the Jurassic World 2 score, it has potential to be pretty epic and fun! Seems like you don't like Giacchino scores where he takes over from Williams. Do you think it is because of that or is it because they are actually lacking in themselves? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I imagine it's because having to follow up Williams only draws more attention to his shortcomings. Not for me, but I understand that's how others feel. Since it barely uses the Williams themes, I just go into it as its own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: Seems like you don't like Giacchino scores where he takes over from Williams. Do you think it is because of that or is it because they are actually lacking in themselves? Karol I don't see what Williams has to do with anything. Jurassic World just isnt as good of a score as Tomorrowland or inside Out from the same year, or as good as Spider-man or Star Trek 3 in terms of summer popcorn fair in his recent ouvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay said: I don't see what Williams has to do with anything. Jurassic World just isnt as good of a score as Tomorrowland or inside Out from the same year, or as good as Spider-man or Star Trek 3 in terms of summer popcorn fair in his recent ouvre. Jurassic World and Rogue One. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 One is a decent effort with solid highs. The other is terribly mediocre on all fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, crocodile said: Jurassic World and Rogue One. Karol Yes, I of course understood what you meant, but I still don't see what Williams has to do with liking the score or not. For one, I didn't even say anything bad about Jurassic World in the post of mine you quoted, just that the OST album wasn't assembled well from all the recorded material. So why bring up Williams, or Rogue One, at all? Can't we rate Jurassic World on its own merits? Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Rogue One isn't a score I particularly care for, but it's one I find...interesting. Though probably for reactions to it moreso than the music itself. But it's a mess I found intriguing either way. I can only hope Solo won't be similarly messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, KK said: One is a decent effort with solid highs. The other is terribly mediocre on all fronts. Exactly my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes, I of course understood what you meant, but I still don't see what Williams has to do with liking the score or not. For one, I didn't even say anything bad about Jurassic World in the post of mine you quoted, just that the OST album wasn't assembled well from all the recorded material. So why bring up Williams, or Rogue One, at all? Can't we rate Jurassic World on its own merits? Only because I noticed these two are the only ones you seem to be underwhelmed by. So it's quite obvious for me to think that. 10 minutes ago, KK said: One is a decent effort with solid highs. The other is terribly mediocre on all fronts. These are my two favourite Giacchino scores actually. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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