publicist 4,643 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 That's only his 'bumbling comic theme' he used a few times, it's pure coincidence in that more tranquil reading. I quite like the additional cues (Aerial Ballet, Flying Lession' Babies buzz NY), it's rare enough these days that additional material turns up substantial pieces that are better than the OST material (most of 90's Goldsmith excepted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yeah it's not really that similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I like the set too. It's no Cocoon...but it is better than Cocoon: The Return. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Same swing pieces...man, if Horner were just a bit less lazy this stuff would be much higher regarded. The swing numbers: most people don't have affection for them but they are perfectly arranged beauties. For 'Cocoon 2', the swing pieces are actually the only cues you *should* keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I think he saw himself as a painter and his scores as thematic cycles...like Rembrandt or whatever. His doctorate went into his head! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I know this rather silly rationalization. Since the exact results never were taken to task by a academic institution we have only Horner's word how sound that is. Here's my selection, btw: Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Bad Times at the El Royale - Michael Giacchino Keep this up Mister G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 You liked it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I did actually. Did everyone else think it stunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, TGP said: I did actually. Did everyone else think it stunk? General consensus was that it was a bit underwhelming. Jay thought so too, but he might have become a bit more positive about it after another listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yeah, boring was the word frequently used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 It's no thrill ride but the most inventive and competent I've heard from him in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,343 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 The opening suite is great and there's some wonderful highlights throughout. But overall the album is way too repetitive. 75 minutes is a lot for a score like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Small Soldiers OST My first time listening to this one. Pretty fun. The album is just the right length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: The opening suite is great and there's some wonderful highlights throughout. But overall the album is way too repetitive. 75 minutes is a lot for a score like this! Yeah the album is definitely overkill. I'm relieved to hear that it won't be a bore for me in the film though which I still have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, TGP said: Yeah the album is definitely overkill. I'm relieved to hear that it won't be a bore for me in the film though which I still have to see. As one of the douchey Giacchino critics here on JWFan, I'm happy to see him get something different for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 He's a guy that gets it so right for me in his scores for The Lost World video game and Space Mountain at Disneyland, but then I listen to the majority of his other stuff and it's just so bland. I guess if there's nothing else to listen to, but as long as we have a choice, like Harry Osborn, I'll choose to listen to better music by superior composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Listening to the new Halloween score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 A.I by John Williams @Nick Parker wins. The Reunion is on and I'm feeling my eyes water. I also love For Always the more I hear it (though preferring the solo version without Josh Groban). SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Surprisingly really enjoying the new Goosebumps score! Shame it lacks a great end titles cue like Elfman's, as it's otherwise a better score, I'd say. Better action riffing, at the least (which was never Elfman's forte). Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Got round to listening to Legends of the Fall (Horner) and the first Harry Potter. So tired, the latter put me in mind of Hook and some of the prequels (Quidditch Match shades of Zam Chase from Attack of the Clones) and the former, in "Off to War" made me think of Barry's John Dunbar Theme. Legends of the Fall on the quiet is a beautiful score. First score I listened to fresh of Horner that didn't immediately summon other scores to mind. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Staying in that spooky Halloween mood, I watched the Danny Elfman/Tim Burton concert that aired on PBS a few years ago https://www.pbs.org/video/lincoln-center-danny-elfmans-music-films-tim-burton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Batman at 44 minute mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Was in a Christmas mood today! The Uninvited by Christopher Young Hellraiser by Christopher Young Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown - Vince Guaraldi (Varese Sarabande, 2018) Word of warning about this Varese album just released. It is very clearly just the music stem from the TV show audio mix. So there are awkward edits, abrupt endings, and even many instances of sound effects. I mean, I guess it's better than nothing? I assume the session tapes are long destroyed/lost? Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Selections from three lush 1970's Williams scores for me today in anticipation of Dracula: Jane Eyre Family Plot The Fury And in menu this evening we have my very first listen of The Wind and the Lion which I picked up from post office this morning. Karol Incanus and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 If you're looking for great, but less well-known Halloweenish music, look no further than the wild score for Dementia from 1955 by George Antheil, one of America's greatest composers. I've never seen the film, but it's notable in that it contains no dialogue. The story is told entirely with visuals, sound effects, and music. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The Wind and the Lion. Wow, it isn't a score I expected at all. It sounds like a Klingon adventure in the Middle East but with a certain Golden Age sweep. Sometimes it feels like Rozsa score. I can definitely see where some of The Mummy originated from. What I find interesting about it is that Goldsmith manages to be both rough and lush at the same time. The ethnic instruments are well integrated into the symphonic writing. I like this one and will be definitely revisiting it! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 What he essentially does here (in the wilder cues) is take moroccan/african idioms/rhythms and transforms them for a standard western symphonic ensemble (plus percussion, of course), hence the wildness. After i saw the movie i realized how brilliantly he musically realized the wind (Connery) and the lion (Keith) as different side of the same coin (both share the same DNA, the american the wide open chords, the berber the archaic ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Casper by James Horner Nightmare Before Christmas by Danny Elfman Exorcism of Emily Rose by Christopher Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 hours ago, crocodile said: The Wind and the Lion. Wow, it isn't a score I expected at all. It sounds like a Klingon adventure in the Middle East but with a certain Golden Age sweep. Sometimes it feels like Rozsa score. I can definitely see where some of The Mummy originated from. What I find interesting about it is that Goldsmith manages to be both rough and lush at the same time. The ethnic instruments are well integrated into the symphonic writing. I like this one and will be definitely revisiting it! Karol Ray Bradbury was so moved by this score that he wrote a short story to it, and sent Jerry Goldsmith a thank-you letter. 23 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Nightmare Before Christmas by Danny Elfman Such a colorful, vivid, on-the-ball score. Almost sounds like it doesn't belong in a film. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The purest Elfman experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Still in the spooky mood, tried listening to some later Elfman today... Wow, Goosebumps is really boring. No energy whatsoever. I need to put on some good Danny to wash away this dullness. Is Sleepy Hollow worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yes! Karol Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 It's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: Live in Concert - John Williams Jane Eyre - John Williams The Hollywood Sound - John Williams & The LSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurwitz Fan 30 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 ,,, SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 James Horner - The Perfect Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Sleepy Hollow by Danny Elfman Pure gothic noise...and that's praise, in case I need to assure that! I do wish I could make out if there's any themes here, but the atmosphere and bombastic hellishness more than won me over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 There's the one theme hummed by a little boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Well, I guess the horseman decapitated him before he could finish singing! I'm sure if there's any thematic material here, it'll be more apparent upon later listens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Yeah, there's a pretty fun main melody in there. His Wolfman score is also a kickass score, a diamond in the rough re: his "recent" film output. @kaseykockroach Check it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I mainly found it odd in that usually Elfman has a good main theme that hooks me, followed by uninteresting underscore. Here, it's good atmospheric underscore, great gothic action and I couldn't make out a particular theme! Still dug it anyhow, looking forward to hearing it again later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: I mainly found it odd in that usually Elfman has a good main theme that hooks me, followed by uninteresting underscore. Here, it's good atmospheric underscore, great gothic action and I couldn't make out a particular theme! Still dug it anyhow, looking forward to hearing it again later. Oh yeah, and once you find it, you'll hear it _every_where in the score. At :37 There's other motifs and such throughout, but this is the main seed of the score. Shucks, haven't listened to this since high school. Dear Philip Glass: please return Danny Elfman safely back to us. We'll give you whatever you want. We miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The only downside is that the CD was scratched and gave out around "Final Confrontation" (what is it with Elfman and his love for that cue title?), so I'll either have to buy a new copy or buy it on iTunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, kaseykockroach said: The only downside is that the CD was scratched and gave out around "Final Confrontation" (what is it with Elfman and his love for that cue title?), so I'll either have to buy a new copy or buy it on iTunes. He actually started that as a statement on the conformity and predictability of the studio film industry. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Empire of the Sun by John Williams Magnificent. I subjectively maintain that the kind of "flying theme" here is maybe better than E.T.'s. Also, the OST here is too short. Pity. For me, this is the first score where Williams started to, if you can say it, become rather self-consciously mature. Having reached great heights in film scoring and popular culture, he started to think a bit about legacy. Exultante Justi is indeed a serious work and reflects this. E.T. by John Williams One of these scores that blows you away every time you here it. More than magnificent. Stunning how each cue flows so well structurally and narratively (in general) into the next. Williams's harmonic palette here deserves especial mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 @kaseykockroach You laugh but I'm being serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I know, I believe you! I just didn't expect that to be reason! That's rather clever and cute, I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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