The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This is subjective; liking the score to Blade Runner 2049. You oppose my opinion and you therefore comment that I need to separate fact from opinion. I clearly stated an opinion, yet you blur the line between what is true and what is believed. This in itself is a biased remark suggesting that because I don't like something that you do it is no longer taking the form of an opinion. It is and you think that I'm approaching it as being a universal truth. You have an opinion and by the way you are acting anyone that opposes is crossing the boundary of opinion and encroaching upon fictional and delusional thinking translated into informative posts about scores that I have listened to. So grab your headphones, listen to the droning electronic hum of Blade Runner 2049 and block out all the comments you don't like because frankly not everyone is going to agree with you sometimes. I seemed to think that you had retired because JW Fan was no longer a place of meaningful musical discussion. Perhaps you can act as the spark to reignite such discussion and tell us why I am wrong in my preference. But you have withdrawn from the conversation, no? Which is why you continue to post... John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 He's an old fart who no longer feels relevant and has a vendetta against newer members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: But you have withdrawn from the conversation, no? With John, yes, who was obviously just looking for a fight. I should hope you're not, though if that's your aim, let me know, and I'll indeed withdraw from the conversation with you as well. As to the rest of what you wrote, I don't think either of us want to go back and forth with this sort of soapboxing. That said - my comments regarding you separating opinion from fact were not borne of me feeling that the score is in fact great and you need to reassess, but rather from the tone of your posts following my own comment which seemed to be obliquely suggesting that I was in the wrong, for holding my own opinion. My point is of course that nobody is wrong here, but some posts certainly did read as though that were being implied. Neither I nor anyone else can tell you why your preferences are wrong. That would be madness and is not the key to better musical discussion here. With all due respect, neither is "informative" posts about scores you've listened to which really just seem to be the same old tired criticisms against a certain type of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Did Mattris make a second account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Problem resolved. Jurassic Park (Personal Playlist) composed by John Williams The Lost World (Personal Playlist) composed by John Williams The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (OST) composed by Howard Shore The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (OST) composed by Howard Shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Problem resolved. Jurassic Park (Personal Playlist) composed by John Williams The Lost World (Personal Playlist) composed by John Williams The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (OST) composed by Howard Shore The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (OST) composed by Howard Shore I'm curious, what's your playlist for TLW? I pretty much love every track of the complete score myself (while with JP, I stick with the OST and merely took out the redundant end credits appearing twice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This is how I listen most often 1 The Island's Voice (3:35) 2 Revealing The Plans (2:17) 3 To The Island (3:39) 4 The Stegosaurus (2:21) 5 Finding The Baby (3:13) 6 Fire At Camp (0:59) 7 Corporate Choppers / The Round Up (5:50) 8 Big Feet (1:41) 9 Spilling Petrol / Horning In (5:07) 10 Up In A Basket (5:38) 11 Pain of Glass / Truck Stop (9:09) 12 Reading The Map / The Trek (8:26) 13 The Compys! (1:37) 14 The Compys Dine (2:55) 15 Rialto Ripples (5:51) 16 Steiner In The Grass / After The Fall (5:22) 17 The Raptors Appear / High Bar And Ceiling Tiles (7:48) 18 Heading North / Ludlow's Speech / Wompi's Wrench / Monster On The Loose (9:52) 19 A Neighborhood Visitor / The Streets Of San Diego / Ludlow's End / The Saving Dart (13:18) 20 End Credits (3:37) Though sometimes I skip past the two compys tracks The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 That's a good one @Jay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I thought Lost World's OST was fine, save the weird placement of The Stegosaurus towards the end. I recall being indifferent to the revelation of the LLL set, until I got to listening to the whole thing and was shocked how much the complete score works splendidly as a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I listen to TLW in the following order: The OST. The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The Wind and the Lion and the Ghost and the Darkness and The Mummy Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 That's a long title for a film. Kasey Kockroach and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I'm listening to 'Doctor Who: Series 11' composed by Segun Akinola and it's better than I remember while watching the series, but not remarkable. I miss Murray Gold very much and I hope they are still releasing his score for the 10th Season soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's a long title for a film. Sounds interesting. I'd watch it! 17 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I listen to TLW in the following order: The OST. I see what you did there now! Haha! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 My Brilliant Friend by Max Richter W.E. by Abel Korzeniowski Theory of Everything by Johann Johannsson Girl With a Pearl Earring by Alexandre Desplat Lots of "pretty" music today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Christus Apollo by Jerry Goldsmith Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The Purge by Nathan Whitehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Mmmm. Romantic jazz piano. 2:10, 2:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 How To Train Your Dragon and How To Train Your Dragon 2 Karol Kasey Kockroach and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Borodin said: Mmmm. Romantic jazz piano. 2:10, 2:50 Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World 2019 has begun. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Jaws By John Williams This score combines the perfect amount of suspense and melody. I much prefer it to the suspense of Zimmer. Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Which release was it @Ii2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Which release was it @Ii2? The first. Saw it on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Besides, a few dozen re-listens of Star Trek II and III, not much of note but I went through a phase of listening to Elmer Bernstein's McQ. Something about the Dirty Laundry track -hint of menace, purpose and, er, coolness. I'm sure it's not high on Bernstein's list but one of my favourites of his. But this week revisiting two David Shire scores -Big Bus and Taking of Pelham 1-2-3. The former, can never get enough of the main title -like Airplane it's a serious (if a track of its era) sounding piece. Personally, fits in and around the Airport sequels. With respect to John Cacavas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How to Train Your Dragon 3: The Hidden World by John Powell Project: Metalbeast by Conrad Pope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. I'm not sure how it ranks among the three but it certainly delivers yet another stage in the evolution of this series. The old themes sound now very mature and the whole score feels now more like a ballet. Very interesting too see Powell's development over the past decade. Some really good new themes too. I like this. Karol Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 How To Train Your Dragon trilogy by John Powell. It's certainly one of the finest thing to come out in the 10's. Grand and epic as any modern blockbusters should be these days...and yet so full of emotion. It really soars. When you listen to them all together it's easy to hell how much John Powell has changed over the past 10 years. Delicious. Karol Kasey Kockroach and Locrius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I find that trilogy to be totally unrealistic. First of all, that's not how dragons look. In the films it looks like they were designed by the same guy who does Apple's designs. Furthermore, vikings don't play bagpipes nor drink tea - we drink much stronger stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Jumping on the bandwagon too - How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell. Yeah, wow. Powell pretty much nailed this one. It's a fantastic conclusion to his near masterful score trilogy, and a phenomenal album on it's own. Locrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,480 Posted February 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2019 I think we'll need a "How to Train Your Dragon" subforum. TLW Locrius, The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 There is, now! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 How to Train Your Dragon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Bespin said: TLW I love The Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I love The Hunt. The best cue named The Hunt is from Lady Jane, scored by Stephen Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 What about from Goldsmith's Planet of the Apes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Nope! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The long goodbye, bespin’s playlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nope! Oh, that's glorious. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, SteveMc said: Oh, that's glorious. The soundtrack is out on Quartet Records, in very limited numbers! My best soundtrack purchase in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 So, I was on a auto blog and I saw this video as a post. Clicked play, and heard something familiar. Could it be? Yes! Elmer Bernstein scored this little film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nope! That Stephen Oliver score sounds lovely though. On the list it goes. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Somewhere in time the great John Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 If Beale Street Could Talk by Nicholas Brittel Quaint and simple. The instrumental emphasis is in the string section, notably the cello, which has a nice deep sound befitting of the mood. It's an incredibly easy listen; I went through the album lying in bed. But it's not neccesarily boring. Some cues take on an eclectic style, but very rarely is there not a good string melody. Notable tracks, at least going by the promotional album, include Eden Harlem, Eros, Agape, Jezebel, and End Credits. In comparison to Brittel's other score from this year, VICE, If Beale Street Could Talk is much less musically diverse. I prefer VICE, but I feel that both scores show a good, wide-ranging display from Brittel, who I will certainly look for in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted February 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2019 2018 Oscar Nominees Black Panther by Ludwig Goransson A strong effort, quite a bit more sophisticated than the usual Marvel stuff. Traditional instrumentation is integrated quite nicely into the overall orchestral general musical texture. Goransson keeps your interest, or at least mine, which is not a small task with this type of score. The tracks where he combines orchestral layering with a hip hop beat are kind of interesting and might not be out of place in, say a James Bond setting perhaps. Blackkklansman by Terrance Blanchard A pleasant surprise this score. Eclectic material here, some orchestral (woodwinds!), some funk, some bluesy stuff, but it all works together quite nicely. Some passages with E. Guitar really gave me some Kamen vibes. Not bad stuff at all. If Beale Street Could Talk by Nicholas Britell A reserved, well-crafted score. Smart writing, for solo cello especially. (is it Britell's wife playing?) Britell plays things a little safe, certainly, but seems to know what he is doing. Prediction - Oscar winner Isle Of Dogs by Alexandre Desplat Desplat's trademark quirky stylings with some Japanese percussive flair. A nice effort, befitting the film, and, as most of Desplat's works, standing on its own, off to the side, to be appreciated by a discerning crowd. Mary Poppins Returns by Marc Shaiman Why was this nominated? For some reason, the score really grates on my nerves. Rather cliched, by the numbers. Not really interesting thematically. Actually dense, lacking in clarity with regards to the orchestrations. Not as much traditional as hackneyed. About as charming as a man yelling on a street corner "I'm charming people! Love me!." The Illustrious Jerry, John and Kasey Kockroach 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell: Excellent. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Incanus said: How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell: Excellent. Most excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 A.I. - Artificial Intelligence by John Williams: A masterpiece indeed. Dracula by John Williams: One of the few horror scores Williams has done and perhaps because of it more special. I love the main theme which encompasses the entire story so perfectly. SteveMc and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 19 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nope! That sounds really good. I need to look into this score Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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