publicist 4,643 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Plumbing for psychological depth, this Greenwood score (his first?) is a great showcase what fundamental effect a score can have on a movie. Halfway located between stark americana, sort of (Open Spaces), Penderecki and Bartok , it is almost strictly modernist chamber music and as such, not especially suited for entertainment consumption (but then, the album runs lean 32 minutes). It also gives good proof what an audience will or will not tolerate: in the cinema i saw it in the score brought forth a few angry shouts to turn off that artsy rubbish and afterwards some patrons complained loudly about the chutzpah of the filmmakers to serve them such heinous shit. Turned out the title 'There will be Blood' was taken a bit too literally and when Jason Statham didn't turn up, tempers flared. Still, who would have thought that a Radiohead member would turn out to be the best impersonation of Alex North we would get in the 2000's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Medal of Honor: Airborne by Michael Giacchino SUN - Soul of the Ultimate Nation by Howard Shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 13 hours ago, Richard said: I hope that you gave your dad a good send-off? Sure did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 5 hours ago, publicist said: Plumbing for psychological depth, this Greenwood score (his first?) is a great showcase what fundamental effect a score can have on a movie. Halfway located between stark americana, sort of (Open Spaces), Penderecki and Bartok , it is almost strictly modernist chamber music and as such, not especially suited for entertainment consumption (but then, the album runs lean 32 minutes). It also gives good proof what an audience will or will not tolerate: in the cinema i saw it in the score brought forth a few angry shouts to turn off that artsy rubbish and afterwards some patrons complained loudly about the chutzpah of the filmmakers to serve them such heinous shit. Turned out the title 'There will be Blood' was taken a bit too literally and when Jason Statham didn't turn up, tempers flared. Still, who would have thought that a Radiohead member would turn out to be the best impersonation of Alex North we would get in the 2000's? Bodysong would be his first score and also his first solo album. You might be familiar with this piece: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I confess there's been two reasons why I haven't been here as much lately. One, my car CD player is broken, and I won't be able to afford to fix it for a long time. And two, well...I've been kind of hooked on video game music, and I did not wish to invite scorn and mocking for my jovial fondness for this. Because good lord do I love love LOVE David Bergeaud's Ratchet and Clank scores. I can't help it. There's just so many spiritually satisfying tunes in these things. Bilbo and Koray Savas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I've always enjoyed this shameless Zimmer rip from Quest For Booty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I've been kind of hooked on video game music, and I did not wish to invite scorn and mocking for my jovial fondness for this. Nothing to be ashamed of. A lot of us here like/love video game music, and for good reason: some of it is better than film music (especially these days!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The Lion in Winter by John Barry: Pretty ace in all departments. Also the tightly spotted score doesn't seem to have a wasted note in it. Naïve Old Fart and Romão 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Since seeing the Zimmer concert a cpl of weeks ago, I have been going back and listening to back catalogue scores of his. Point of No Return - meh. Nice ending though Paperhouse - Meh. Pearl Harbor - I loved this then and still do Da Vinci Code - Have a new found love of this Backdraft - Always loved this Toys - meh. That song at the end is cool though Hannibal - Have a big fondness of this Black Hawk Down - a cpl good moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Incanus said: The Lion in Winter by John Barry: Pretty ace in all departments. Also the tightly spotted score doesn't seem to have a wasted note in it. +1 It's, probably, his greatest achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I was listening to some cues from CE3K, which led me to YouTube as is what often happens thse days, where I found this nice little video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'll try and catch the film in Hollywood next month with a guy called Indysolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 11 hours ago, Incanus said: The Lion in Winter by John Barry: Pretty ace in all departments. Also the tightly spotted score doesn't seem to have a wasted note in it. Indeed. And it's a score and setting that really benefited from Barry's simple orchestrations and melodies. Here they were absolutely spot on. It's my favorite Barry score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Very different movies but I am always mixing up The Lion in Winter and The Wind and the Lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Lion for Lion, I prefer the Lion King. What a wonderful soundtrack by Elton John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The Monkey King 2 by Christopher Young. One of my favourite fantasy scores of this decade. The first one was good but this one is better. But due to more introspective nature, and very few action bits, few people will share my sentiments. Less obnoxious blockbuster percussion accompanied by chanting chorus - combination that is a bane of modern film music. The choral work is subtler in the sequel and material gets to "breathe" more. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 A Cure for Wellness - Hans Zimmer farms out his Gore Verbinski collaboration to Benjamin Wallfisch, who struggles manfully. The movie, a sly, 'overproduced' variation on Thomas Mann's 'Der Zauberberg' with all of the usual blockbuster trappings (gratuitous eye-candy, over-generous length) bending Verbinski's sardonic, twisted humour demands an eclectic cocktail of musical styles and Wallfisch responds. Halfway located between 90's Danny Elfman with children's choruses, the occasional waltz outbreak (Zimmer's own 'Hannibal' comes to mind), nods to the eerie vocalise from 'Rosemary's Baby' and some dreamy JNH to flesh out the longer, more atmospheric parts (lots of piano over shimmering synth beds), the score ain't half bad. What it shares with many other recent counterparts out of the Hollywood machinery is a lamentable lack of originality: expertly is the best adjective i could come up with, because all those ingredients mentioned above were done more convincingly by their originators. What remains is a film-musical 'colour by numbers' that does its job but doesn't exactly arouses the seasoned fan. Wallfisch is at least a good craftsman. It still remains to be seen if he has a fingerprint strong enough to leave a lasting impression. Not much anticipation fast-forwarding through this album, as i found it an effective but incredibly monotonous experience in the cinema. My worst fears were confirmed, it's one of those souvenirs that never should have been released away from the movie to which it is eternally glued. Taken out of this context you are left with a propulsive pulse that lacks musical form and at 60 minutes, you'll find much worthier things to do with your auditory system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 So a letdown after the surprisingly substantial Interstellar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I would put it differently: the needs of the films are very different and the concept that was chosen for 'Dunkirk' just doesn't lend itself to a release away from the movie. To say it's lackluster would imply it needs to be great music to be a great score which is not the case, as has been proven and proven again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I don't dislike it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Thanks for those thoughts on DUNKIRK,@publicist I have no plans to watch the film, but I find that the score is quite listenable. I find myself conjuring my own images, as I listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Well, it depends on how you define music, or 'listening pleasure'. I never had much time or patience for drones and monotonous spheres without musical development. They have their warrant but i don't see them as doing much good to the advancement of the art of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Is music (or any art, come to that) always in need of advancement? Can't it be enjoyed simply for what it is? You hear "drones, and monotonous spheres, without musical development", while I hear interesting effects, and a certain musicianship. It's limited, but it's there. It's nothing simpler, than perception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 U'know, i really don't care enough either about this topic. I don't have or want t spend time with such stuff, it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 You have an interesting way of being uninterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The Monkey King by Christopher Young The Agony and the Ecstasy by Alex North Papillon by Jerry Goldsmith House of Frankenstein by Don Davis Sommersby by Danny Elfman Karol James and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, crocodile said: The Monkey King by Christopher Young The Agony and the Ecstasy by Alex North Papillon by Jerry Goldsmith House of Frankenstein by Don Davis Sommersby by Danny Elfman Karol Good, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Tokyo Ghoul by Don Davis. CD arrived this morning from Japan. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Music for a gray saturday morning that needs a little bit of magic! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If magic is what you need... why put The BFG on? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 It's called "promo" :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I've had The BFG for ages and I haven't even heard it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 It's John Williams that is simultaneously at the height of his orchestrational craft and at the very low of his "magic" levels. I like about 10-12 minutes of it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Music for a gray saturday morning that needs a little bit of magic! Music for outsiders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Much better. Karol Not Mr. Big and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 More music for outsiders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Richard said: More music for outsiders! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 hours ago, crocodile said: A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Much better. Karol It is his best work, probably to stay that way. And one of the best scores ever written. Maybe THE best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Stu, what I meant was, that the main characters in all four of those films, are outsiders. One could easily have added THE OMEN, SUPERMAN, and any Bond score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, Richard said: Stu, what I meant was, that the main characters in all four of those films, are outsiders. Humor, it is a difficult concept. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I don't have a sense of humour, only an over-inflated sense if my own self-righteousness and importance, and the inability to laugh. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I'm just excited I finally got to use that line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 05/08/2017 at 0:52 AM, Disco Stu said: Very different movies but I am always mixing up The Lion in Winter and The Wind and the Lion The Wind and the Lion and The Ghost and the Darkness for me. Especially since it's the latter that has actual lions... 12 hours ago, crocodile said: Tokyo Ghoul by Don Davis. CD arrived this morning from Japan. What's it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Desplat's Moonrise Kingdom. It's a beautiful, affable, curious and enlightened score. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Surf and turf James and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 You get Croc's Seal of Approval today, Mr. High five! Warriors of Virtue Karol Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 quality, Bespin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 A word that suits me soooo well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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