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John Carter by Michael Giacchino

Now this is the score that I wanted Star Trek to be. Giacchino has finally pulled it off. He finds a right balance between his more gritty and dry voice of late and a big heart of his animated scores. Reminds me a lot of early Arnold. A bit better recording helps as well. I like both Super 8 and Mission: Impossible 4, but this one is better than both of them combined.

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There Be Dragons (Warbeck and Folk)

I prefer Robert Folk's score for the international version, but Warbeck's original score is no slouch either. Folk emphasizes the drama with more emphasis on the guitar, which gives it such an irresistible flavor. Warbeck's is more restrained and subtle (hardly any guitar or any period instruments), and feels more at home in a John Madden film (like The Debt, which he did not score).

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Yesterday I listened to the complete score for Superman Returns. I know this score gets a lot of flak here but I for one love it. I had not listened to it in a while and forgot how wonderful it is.

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Schindler's List

I don't know why, but I was kind of in the mood for this today, so I popped in the CD, and I'm taken away as usual...

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Mercenaries - Tilton/Giacchino

I know Giacchino just wrote the theme for this, and Tilton wrote the rest but man... this is great stuff and better than Giacchino's Secret Weapons Over Normandy (and a lot of Giacchino's live-action output, including John Carter). The action music is plenty, but diverse enough so it doesn't grate. "Hidden Valley Bunker", "Swedish Fireballs" and "Countdown" are among the many highlights in this album. I don't know if it's just me, but overall this is a great effort by LLL.

The Northwest Sinfonia did such a good job performing this score (maybe Giacchino and Tilton should use them more often, hint hint). And thanks to someone else handling recording duties, Dan Wallin's mixing isn't bad at all.

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The Intrada "ALIEN". O.k., o.k., so I substituted the LP "main title" for the film version (I just prefer the latter), but this is without a shadow of a doubt, the scariest score I have EVER listened, and the images that it conjured up made me have bad dreams...again!

Sometimes it doesen't even sound like music, rather, it sounds like orchestral wretching. This is an absolute shining jewel in a very large crown!

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the social network - trent reznor & atticus ross

ugh, what an appallingly bad score it is. 'hand covers bruise' has grown on me, though.

I did hate it too, at first. But it did have a weird growing effect. I think regardless of how good it is as music, it works fantastically in the film, particularly in the first 15 minutes of the film. I enjoy listening to the score on that basis alone.

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The score does not play very loudly in the film. A lot of the time you don't even notice it.

A lot of that is probably attributable to how much of the score is just bland ambience, which, admittedly, is pretty lame. However, the moments of the score that shine greatly enhance the film, particularly those opening 15 minutes. They kick ass, and I'm certain that's how it won its oscar.

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Sleepy Hollow by Danny Elfman: Without a doubt my favourite Elfman score. Everything seems to fall into place in this one. The gothic darkness, the sweeping drama and romance, the macabre comedy and furious and relentless action are all present. And while the score is mostly monothematic the composer winds the melody through a fantastic set of variations, the main theme commenting the action as need be, working as a curtain opening herald of doom or transforming into a love theme interlude or becoming ghostly, childlike and playful. There are two or three accompanying motifs Elfman weaves between the strains of the main theme with regularity, the Mystery and Foreboding theme that seems to be everywhere in this score, informing almost all events in Sleepy Hollow, the short exclamatory Headless Horse Man motif swooping down on the listener as relentlessly as the character and the Riding motif making a couple of appearances underscoring, you guessed it, scenes where the Horseman pursues his victims.

The whole mood of this score is darkly romantic and Elfman eschews from outright horror music for the most part, his thematic ideas always anchoring the music in firm melodicism. As said above the main theme runs through an impressive array of permutations, keeping the music fresh and interesting throughout. Deep and weighty orchestrations offer melodramatic musical exposition to the unfolding gruesome events, lower woodwinds and brass often performing renditions of the secondary themes underneath the action. The action music itself is relentless and vicious, blaring and hammering, the orchestra and chorus attacking the listener brutally but always dancing on the fine between listenable and draining but never straying on the latter side as Elfman cleverly interpolates his themes into the mix and keeps the musical carnage engaging.

The album is well compiled, containing all the major sequences from the film in near chronological order which makes for a strong musical narrative. There is always enough breathing space between the heaviest action setpieces so that the listening experience does not wear you out and steadily builds towards a big finale containing yet again Elfman's classic Final Confrontation track. The gothically rich and romantic musical ideas capture the imagination, clever orchestrations and use of chorus all enhance this overall atmosphere. Here Elfman shows how horror can be done in style and scope.

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I never quite got into is as much as I'd like. The main theme is great (contrary to what people say), but something gets lost someway halfway through. Maybe I should just give it a listen, because it's been a while?

John Carter is constantly being played this week. A really good score and very entertaining album.

Now it's time for David Arnold's Independence Day.

Karol

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I think the action music in Sleepy Hollow might get a bit frenetic and relentless for some listeners.

I am off to have an Indiana Jones score marathon, starting with Raiders of the Lost Ark.

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Sleepy Hollow by Danny Elfman: Without a doubt my favourite Elfman score. Everything seems to fall into place in this one. The gothic darkness, the sweeping drama and romance, the macabre comedy and furious and relentless action are all present. And while the score is mostly monothematic the composer winds the melody through a fantastic set of variations, the main theme commenting the action as need be, working as a curtain opening herald of doom or transforming into a love theme interlude or becoming ghostly, childlike and playful. There are two or three accompanying motifs Elfman weaves between the strains of the main theme with regularity, the Mystery and Foreboding theme that seems to be everywhere in this score, informing almost all events in Sleepy Hollow, the short exclamatory Headless Horse Man motif swooping down on the listener as relentlessly as the character and the Riding motif making a couple of appearances underscoring, you guessed it, scenes where the Horseman pursues his victims.

The whole mood of this score is darkly romantic and Elfman eschews from outright horror music for the most part, his thematic ideas always anchoring the music in firm melodicism. As said above the main theme runs through an impressive array of permutations, keeping the music fresh and interesting throughout. Deep and weighty orchestrations offer melodramatic musical exposition to the unfolding gruesome events, lower woodwinds and brass often performing renditions of the secondary themes underneath the action. The action music itself is relentless and vicious, blaring and hammering, the orchestra and chorus attacking the listener brutally but always dancing on the fine between listenable and draining but never straying on the latter side as Elfman cleverly interpolates his themes into the mix and keeps the musical carnage engaging.

The album is well compiled, containing all the major sequences from the film in near chronological order which makes for a strong musical narrative. There is always enough breathing space between the heaviest action setpieces so that the listening experience does not wear you out and steadily builds towards a big finale containing yet again Elfman's classic Final Confrontation track. The gothically rich and romantic musical ideas capture the imagination, clever orchestrations and use of chorus all enhance this overall atmosphere. Here Elfman shows how horror can be done in style and scope.

My favorite Elfman as well :) But the first half of the album is much much stronger than the second half. As you said, the action music can get a bit grating in the second half.

The foreboding theme, as you called it, is terrific. When it is heard in The Story, with that Oboe backing, it sounds simply superb. Elfman has a gret knack for writing this sort of foreboding, driving, motifs. He also wrote a great one for Hulk

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I am off to have an Indiana Jones score marathon, starting with Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Incorrect, you have to start with TOD.

Did I say something about a chronological marathon Stefan? You should pay more attention. And where is the much more effective WRONG! I ask you? Incorrect is too polite. Good old cold WRONG! in your face was much more effective.
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I am off to have an Indiana Jones score marathon, starting with Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Incorrect, you have to start with TOD.

Don't you have to start with "Indy's First Adventure"? ;)

I can read minds.

Can you read my mind? Can you picture the things I'm thinking of?

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You know, a chronological listen of the Indy scores is something I've never attempted. Indy's First Adventure, followed by Temple of Doom, Raiders, the rest of Crusade and maybe Crystal Skull. I'll have to try that.

I'm listening to Barry's King Kong. This score is absolutely amazing. That unmistakable romantic sound at some of his very best. Pulse-pounding and hair-raising stuff for that gigantic turned-on ape's various run-ins with nutty religious natives dressing up like priests to get laid, gun-toting environmental rapists and asshole National Guardsmen mining New York's bridges. I definitely desire the complete score without sound effects. There are far too many phenomenal cues missing, like Jack's story of the island, the actual arrival at Skull Island and the big guy's escapade in the Big Apple. Want.

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I would never attempt that because after listening to the circus train track go right into The Portuguese Coast....the "gap" of ROTLA and TOD, in either purportedly correct order, would be too jarring.

I have the albums tagged in the order of film release year, and that's it. Making TOD a prequel had no impact on the movie other than the date in the opening titles.

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Stanley & Iris by John Williams: A chamber sized delicate and optimistic score from the maestro. Always succeeds in cheering me up. Has a nice sunny feel that reminds me of spring and summer time.

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Making TOD a prequel had no impact on the movie other than the date in the opening titles.

thats not entirely true....

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La-La Land's release for Godzilla by David Arnold.

It had been a while since I heard it and thought I'd give it a go again. Man what an awesome release and it's pure adrenaline fun, with hints from Stargate and Independence Day woven in.

The film itself is a guilty pleasure of mine but the score is awesome as hell.

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Making TOD a prequel had no impact on the movie other than the date in the opening titles.

thats not entirely true....

It makes Indy's line from Raiders about not believing in magic and a lot of supersticious hocus pocus rather strange.

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Been listening to my new copy of John Carter during all the Hook fun. Another home run for Giacchino, who's really been on a "peak career" roll the last 4-5 years.

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Been listening to my new copy of John Carter during all the Hook fun. Another home run for Giacchino, who's really been on a "peak career" roll the last 4-5 years.

I'd say it eclipses his other film works. I've been listening to this constantly over the past few weeks.

Karol

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Making TOD a prequel had no impact on the movie other than the date in the opening titles.

thats not entirely true....

It makes Indy's line from Raiders about not believing in magic and a lot of supersticious hocus pocus rather strange.

Please elaborate, Faleel. Don't be shy.

Additionally, I would argue that making TOD a prequel turns Indy's encounter with the Thuggee swordsmen near the bridge, when he reaches for his missing pistol, an inside joke that we don't get. The musical snippet also makes less sense because we haven't heard the full treatment in Raiders, when he just shoots the elaborate swordsman.

I think that Indiana Jones' introduction in Raiders is a much stronger character presentation than that in Temple. We see all the trademarks that we come to know. The hat. The whip. Him doing archaeology stuff. Action. Granted, in Temple, we get a lot of dialogue about Indy's archaeological exploits and see his womanizing, but until he spears the guy and starts shooting...even then, we may not understand what kind of man Indiana Jones is until he gets into the airplane IF Temple was our first introduction to him, and not Raiders. He's still Any Guy 80s Action Movie Star at that point.

Yes, both intros have the commonalities of Indy making mistakes, losing the treasure, running away, and barely escaping with his life.

That's about it.

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I find that it makes it seem (not entirely I admit) that he changes to what he is in Raiders during the course of the movie.

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I still feel that the supersticious hocus pocus line in Raiders works given that TOD is a prequel. Indy experiences all these amazing things on his adventures, but he never recounts them to Marcus. In fact, Marcus blows off his story about what happened with the idol in Raiders. "Want to hear about it?" "Not at all." He never told him any of that shit that went down in Temple of Doom.

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I still feel that the supersticious hocus pocus line in Raiders works given that TOD is a prequel. Indy experiences all these amazing things on his adventures, but he never recounts them to Marcus. In fact, Marcus blows off his story about what happened with the idol in Raiders. "Want to hear about it?" "Not at all." He never told him any of that shit that went down in Temple of Doom.

I still disagree. He doesn't ask Brody if he wants to hear about the superstitious hocus pocus. He says "I don't believe." First person. Indiana Jones. Not..."do you, Marcus Brody, believe?"

Marcus blows off a story that -- the audience knows -- is totally grounded in reality, i.e. the traps in the idol temple and escaping from Belloq's Hovitos.

He doesn't blow off a discussion about the supernatural and we cannot know that the TOD adventure happened before. When the gov't agents confront Brody and Jones, Brody is as taken in by the story as Indy, but later we see Brody nearly scared to death about Indiana going after the Ark. He knows it is probably imbued with the power of God, but it is Indiana who is skeptical.

That's why this order works:

Raiders:

Indiana: [laughing] Oh, Marcus. What are you trying to do, scare me? You sound like my mother. We've known each other for a long time. I don't believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus pocus. I'm going after a find of incredible historical significance, you're talking about the boogie man. Besides, you know what a cautious fellow I am. [throws his gun into his suitcase]

Temple of Doom:

Shaman of Maypore: Now you see the power of the rock you bring back.

Indiana Jones: Yes. I understand its power now.

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Now turn it around, and view them in the order George Lucas instructs.

Shaman of Maypore: Now you see the power of the rock you bring back.

Indiana Jones: Yes. I understand its power now.

Indiana: [laughing] Oh, Marcus. What are you trying to do, scare me? You sound like my mother. We've known each other for a long time. I don't believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus pocus. I'm going after a find of incredible historical significance, you're talking about the boogie man. Besides, you know what a cautious fellow I am. [throws his gun into his suitcase]

Now, is Indiana really a believer, and he's playing it cool for the benefit of his friend and mentor? That'd be the only way the TOD/Raiders order makes sense. Indiana starts out being skeptical about a bunch of rocks, then becomes a believer. Then when confronted by the power of God, he goes all macho to show Marcus that he's not actually scared out of his mind, since he already defeated a boogie man in charge of a mind control cult -- magic! superstition! -- who worshipped a god tantamount to the devil.

Maybe. I just don't like it.

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But then again, Indiana Jones learns nothing from his previous adventures, because he later actually asks Brody if he believes in the power of the Grail, after recognizing what danger his father's in. It's not like he hasn't already gone up against God once before. No...

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I'm listening to the Conan The Bararian done by City of Prague Philharmonics. I got it this afternoom. And what a treat this is. I always knew the score, but it felt somewhat flat. The new recording is exactly what it needed. Fantastic job that finally makes a great piece of work truly great.

Karol

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Fair enough, but personally, I always listen to the Prague re-recording when I feel like some Conan. Its truly a fantastic piece of work. You can always count on a good Tadlow release!

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Listening to James Newton Howard's The Last Airbender at the moment. This is an absolutely fantastic score! But as I'm listening to the album, I keep getting frustrated at the stupid choir re-use issue with the album (for economic purposes, they practically got rid of the choir on the album), you can faintly hear the epic choral chanting that Howard had written and its barely audible!!!!

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