publicist 4,643 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Though 120 vs. 250 minutes still makes the difference between looking at your watch once or twice or having a focus trauma because you watch filmed theatre without the immediacy of a real one with some mediocre spectacle sequences where only one is an eye-catcher (the entry into Rome). North is beyond reproach, though, but even he (like Williams in the prequels) cannot bring life into the eternal stretches of dialogue scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Or what Jack Warner once reportedly called Bonnie and Clyde a "three piss picture". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 He was famously wrong on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Yes you really should listen to the interview with Williams about North that I posted bolle. It might give you a new perspective. I watched five minutes of it yesterday and was immediately interested because I'd never heard Williams talk about anything/anyone in such great detail. Maybe, one day, Spartacus will appeal to me, just like the OT music is doing now. BUtI Just had to turn the movie off because of terrible audio description so I'll never finish that, the sound sounded incredibly obsolete too (no matter how many times it's restored/remastered/whatever). I do like complex music, but have a real problem with dissonance, especially when it's there for no reason, like in that Spartacus overture. It's like scoring a romantic scene with heavy metal: pointless. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I do like complex music, but have a real problem with dissonance, especially when it's there for no reason, like in that Spartacus overture. It's like scoring a romantic scene with heavy metal: pointless. There's so much wrong with this reasoning, it seems utterly futile to argue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 7 hours ago, publicist said: Avoid 'Cleopatra'. It's not that bad. In fact, given all the production troubles and its length, I'm surprised how good it is. Nothing you could watch any day, but when you have the endurance, I think it's worth seeing. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 CLEOPATRA is a fucking flawed masterpiece! Any film that has one third of it cut out, is going to suffer, and I think that if Mank had stuck to his guns, with parts I, and II, then Fox would have doubled their profits. As it stands, CLEOPATRA is the best "sword-and-sandal" epic, by a country mile. It would be my dearest wish for the missing footage to be found, and the film to be restored to its full 6-hour glory. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 The Cleopatra score is delicious, regardless of what one might think about the film. Which I have yet to watch. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Richard said: CLEOPATRA is a fucking flawed masterpiece! Any film that has one third of it cut out, is going to suffer, and I think that if Mank had stuck to his guns, with parts I, and II, then Fox would have doubled their profits. As it stands, CLEOPATRA is the best "sword-and-sandal" epic, by a country mile. It would be my dearest wish for the missing footage to be found, and the film to be restored to its full 6-hour glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Unless it's Titanic, a film should be an hour or so...two, at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 With 2,200 souls in its cast list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Titanic shouldn't be longer than 2 hours 40 minutes. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: Titanic shouldn't be longer than 2 hours 40 minutes. Yeah, that's about how much I would have cut out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Close Encounters of the Third Kind. What a beauty this score is, probably Williams' finest work. Received my tickets for the June concert the other day, by the way. Can't wait for that one. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Richard said: CLEOPATRA is a fucking flawed masterpiece! Any film that has one third of it cut out, is going to suffer, and I think that if Mank had stuck to his guns, with parts I, and II, then Fox would have doubled their profits. As it stands, CLEOPATRA is the best "sword-and-sandal" epic, by a country mile. It would be my dearest wish for the missing footage to be found, and the film to be restored to its full 6-hour glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sharky said: I believe the word you're looking for is: "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" Sharkissimo and crocodile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Close Encounters of the Third Kind. What a beauty this score is, probably Williams' finest work. Received my tickets for the June concert the other day, by the way. Can't wait for that one. Got mine about a week ago or so. And I also played CE3K just the other day. While it's always difficult to pick a single best or favourite Williams score, I think it's save to say that CE3K is one of the few that have never been topped. Also amazing how free the tempo at the end of the finale feels, for a film score, and how the the score benefits from this "music first" approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Blue Planet II by Hans Zimmer, Jacod Shea, and Jasha Klebe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Yeah, it is probably his most "unchained" work. It doesn't seem to be limited by film. You put it against picture, it works beautifully. You play it in a concert work, sane result. It feels like a proper symphonic work that bridges the cerebral with emotional. Karol Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Jerrys never let you down! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Jerry Fielding doesn't get enough love, around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Probably because people keep getting him confused with another composer named Jerry who gets all the lovins'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 The Illustrious Jerry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Saving Private Ryan by John Williams The Wolfman by Danny Elfman When the Whales Came by Christopher Gunning Stepmom by John Williams Star Trek: Nemesis by Jerry Goldsmith Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by Patrick Doyle Naïve Old Fart and dtw42 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Another eclectic mix. I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 How To Train Your Dragon 1&2 Love 'em. Raiders - SonicAdventure's new remaster I have no idea which official release this was sourced from, but this transition is botched horribly in it: Great score otherwise, didn't notice much of a sound upgrade with this fan remaster. Disney, please allow us to shower you with money! Uncovering the Ark is bloody terrifying. It has no sense of "You succeeded where men failed before you for millenia in finding a lost artifact", rather "You have opened something you should NOT have, and you WILL suffer for it!". The Ark theme is not a MacGuffin theme, but a villain theme. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Twister Titanic Apollo 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Holko said: The Ark theme is not a MacGuffin theme, but a villain theme. Eh, not really a Villain theme, but I get what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Black Panther by Ludwig Goransson: Fantastic score, one of the best of the MCU. Great themes and fantastic action cues. And I love that Goransson went full on tribal percussion and chants in many tracks. Creed by Ludwig Goransson: Great score. The main theme is so great and even if it's a bit overused it works really well, especially when it mixes with Rocky's original themes. If I Fight, You Fight and You're A Creed are pure energy. Bicentennial Man by James Horner: Even if this one is kind of a greatest hits by James Horner, I liked it a lot. The main theme is lovely and even if the love theme is almost exact copy of Braveheart, it still stand on its own really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Taras Bulba by Franz Waxman Karol Naïve Old Fart and publicist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/11/2018 at 6:14 PM, Batman's Diet Coke said: Unless it's Titanic, a film should be an hour or so...two, at most. A lot of big studio films should cut a lot of fat, keep enough to keep the audience clued in but paced fast enough that it doesn't drag. Michael Bay could've made his Transformers films lean and fun 85-90 minutes apiece, but then you get all the crappy human filler that no one wants to see. And let's not get into another Peter Jackson discussion regarding the Hobbit trilogy. Justice League is a perfect example of the 'leaner is better' rule. Of course, a lot of people hated it anyway, but it was very well-paced for a studio-mandated 'less than 2 hours runtime' film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Justice League was crappy regardless of runtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I look forward to finally seeing it some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dis is nawt luking gooed at awl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's the only Jablonsky in my collection and i confess: i enjoy it immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 12:36 PM, Stefancos said: Tschaikowsky, Symphonie Nr. 5 in E minor, Op. 64. Berliner Philharminiker, Herbert von Karakan. I didn't know you listened to classical music. Tchaikovsky's Symphonies 4 and 5 are among my favorite pieces of any kind of music ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Providence by Miklós Rózsa Black Beauty by Danny Elfman Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2018 For anyone who likes to use anniversaries as excuses to revisit old favorites May 14, 2018 is the 80th anniversary of the release of The Adventures of Robin Hood, score by Erich Wolfgang Korngold One of the greatest and most important scores of all time! crocodile, Bespin, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's more than alright, except for the annoying main title theme. And Kojian's recording is indeed the one to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It'll do. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Might as well milk my first free Spotify Premium month by moving out of my comfort zone and trying some music I'd normally never have actively sought out. The Post Wow, that was a lot better than my imagination and initial skipping through lead me to believe! Great """"background noise"""" for studying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Holko said: e Post Wow, that was a lot better than my imagination and initial skipping through lead me to believe! Great """"background noise"""" for studying! It's a quality score. I prefer it to The Last Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, crocodile said: It'll do. Karol That'll do. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 The Monkey King and The Monkey King 2. Lovely scores, both of them. The first one is more extrovert wheras the second one remains more introvert (in comparison). One is more heavenly, the other more earthly. The second one is already long out of print and the first one is about to sell out. Sadly. Worlds needs more Christopher Young! The fact they replaced him on the third film is a crime against humanity. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Jaws: 25th Anniversary Collector's Edition my first introduction to the score long before I got hold of the Intrada one. I almost went for the McNeely copy first. One day I'm sure. Disco Stu and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 The Rocketeer I can say with full confidence that "The Flying Circus" is my favorite cue of this score and one of my favorite cues from ANY Horner score. My God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Currently encoding these another four essential and quality albums as FLACs for my new mp3 player... Will listen to them this week. Jane Eyre [Music From The Omnibus/Sagittarius Production] (1971, Capitol Records, SW 749) Jane Eyre Theme; Overture (Main Title); Lowood; To Thornfield; String Quartet Festivity At Thornfield; Grace Poole And Mason's Arrival; Trio The Meeting; Thwarted Wedding; Across The Moors; Restoration; Reunion. (Reissued in 2012, La-La Land Records, LLLCD 1214) (I forget to encode Jane Eyre when I first encoded all my LLL albums in FLACs, as it is not Mike Matessino who was involved in this release, but it's stll an important LLL release!) I just love those Fresh Sound Releases! John T. Williams - Jazz Beginnings (2006, Fresh Sound Records, FSR 2228, Compilation) CD 1: The Most Beautiful Girl In The World; In A Little Spanish Town; I'll Take Romance; Zigeuner; Tenderly; Diane; Dear To My Heart; While We're Young; Wait Till You See Her; One Love; Bess,Oh Where's My Bess; Hello (John T. Williams); Aunt Orsavella (John T. Williams); Spring Is Here; Anything Goes; Caribe (John T. Williams); One Love; Our Waltz; CD 2: I've Got The World On A String; Get Happy; That Old Black Magic; Over The Rainbow; Let's Fall In Love; Stormy Weather; My Shinning Hour; Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea; Come Rain Or Come Shine; Here's What I'm Here For; Hit The Road To Dreamland; A Sleepin' Bee; All Of You; The Last Time I Saw Paris; I Can't Get Started; I Got Plenty O'Nuttin'; It's The Talk Of The Town; You'd Be So Nice To Come Home To; It Ain't Necessarily So; Tenderly; This Can't Be Love; Old Devil Moon; My Happy Time; There's A Small Hotel. (Reissued for digital download in 2013, Jazz City Series) Checkmate/Hong Kong (2015, Fresh Sound Records, JM 1007, Compilation) "Checkmate": Music composed and conducted by Johnny Williams. (Reissued for digital download in 2014, Jazz in the Movies) Rhythm in Motion/So Nice! with Johnny Desmond (2015, Fresh Sound Records, BMCD 858, Compilation) Music arranged and conducted by Johnny Williams; Featuring Johnny Williams (p); Three Bonus tracks composed and performed by Johnny Williams: Tuesday's Theme, The Black Knight, Augie's Great Piano. (Reissued for digital download in 2015, Blue Moon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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