Incanus 5,713 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: The Goldsmith fares a bit better, thankfully the Decca mix is still intact on CD 2. Why so many engineers today knowingly put out product so hotly mastered even if it's not intended for a mass market audience is everybody's question. The good thing is that it still sounds relatively unharmed, but keep in mind that even if you lower the volume in a mixing program, the clipped parts are not saved by this. Ouch the above pictures look pretty awful. Too loud by far. I wonder who was responsible for the mix of The Mummy Returns on the Intrada release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just examples. Was too lazy to put up the real ones. Btw, in some cues on both releases of there is something off with the mix. Like a voice is off by a wrong pitch or something. Listen to the second half of The Mummy Attacks or the first half of Canyon Deluge on headphones. You clearly hear it under good headphones if you have the old mix side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, publicist said: The Goldsmith fares a bit better, thankfully the Decca mix is still intact on CD 2. Why so many engineers today knowingly put out product so hotly mastered even if it's not intended for a mass market audience is everybody's question. The good thing is that it still sounds relatively unharmed, but keep in mind that even if you lower the volume in a mixing program, the clipped parts are not saved by this. Have they adapted the new music to the Decca mix? I mean that mix was pretty perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just made this little collection, I love the sixtizzzzzzzzz!!! 💖 JW-The Original Soundtracks Collection - The 60's 01 Checkmate (1960) 02 Diamond Head (1962) 03 How to Steal a Million (1966) 04 Not With My Wife, You Don't (1966) 05 Penelope (1966) 06 Fitzwilly (1967) 07 Heidi (1968) 08 Valley of the Dolls (1968) 09 Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969) 10 The Reivers (1969) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Have they adapted the new music to the Decca mix? I mean that mix was pretty perfect. No, that sounds the same (and great). With 'The Mummy' i found the off-sound yet only in the last 02:20 of 'The Mummy Attacks' whereas it returns more frequently in TMR, where some parts sound (i. e. the stereo separation in 'Canyon Deluge') not much better than the old bootleg while other parts sound great. There is something not right with the source material, i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Grandpa has a program like Audicity or whatever it is (I don't remember what it's called), so if we hear anything off in the mix, hakuna matata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Last of the Mohicans Fight me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Teen Titans Go to the Movies by Jared Faber I'm laughing my ass off a soundtrack album for this actually exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,505 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 . Sir Hilary Bray and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 14 hours ago, publicist said: No, it's like 'Predator 2', crushingly loud. If you look at the spikes in Audition or Audacity, the loud cues too often look like this: whereas they should look like this: Jesus H. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Shall we send emails politely complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 We shall send emails, but they won't be polite. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This is the real graph on TMR (My First Bus Ride): I comparison, 'Night Boarders' looks much more natural: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The Horn Concerto by John Williams: Another excellent soloist piece that expertly explores the different capabilities of the instrument while also forming a beautiful 5-movement suite of contrasting moods and melodies. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 From the samples, I have the impression the dynamic range of The Mummy is even wider than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Suite for Cello and Orchestra from Memoirs of a Geisha by John Williams: Outstanding condensation of the major ideas of the score into a gorgeous suite. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The Death of Stalin by Christopher Willis Excellent Shostakovich pastiche, summed up in a nice half hour album. I'd like to hear more from this Willis fellow. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, KK said: The Death of Stalin by Christopher Willis Excellent Shostakovich pastiche, summed up in a nice half hour album. I'd like to hear more from this Willis fellow. Have you seen the film? I found it absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,934 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Have you seen the film? I found it absolutely hilarious. I would like to see it. Missed its UK cinema run. Hoping it will turn up on Netflix at some point. The score is funny. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Brundlefly said: From the samples, I have the impression the dynamic range of The Mummy is even bigger than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Brundlefly said: From the samples, I have the impression the dynamic range of The Mummy is even bigger than before. I think you mean "wider". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Or greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 God of War - Bear McCreary One of the best scores of the year so far. Very engaging soundtrack album, too. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Last of the Mohicans Fight me! No one wants to fight me... 💔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Turn A Gundam - Yoko Kanno (1999) Truly stunning. I'll probably be posting some specific bits in the short musical moments thread later! (for some reason the embed keeps starting partway through but the beginning is great too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: God of War - Bear McCreary One of the best scores of the year so far. Very engaging soundtrack album, too. Agreed. While I am not a huge McCreary fan this one won me over almost immediately. 54 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: No one wants to fight me... 💔 No arguments from me since I never really got into that score. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I never enjoyed Last of the Mohicans as much as Cliffhanger Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 It was the McNeely rerecording which got me to really like Mohicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Its an excellent rerecording. Massacre is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 It's indeed a great rerecording. I still dislike parts of the OST, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Richard said: I think you mean "wider". Yes. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 3:45 AM, publicist said: keep in mind that even if you lower the volume in a mixing program, the clipped parts are not saved by this. That's when you use ReLife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Massacre is fantastic. I just find it's a great quote from you. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 8:18 PM, publicist said: No, that sounds the same (and great). With 'The Mummy' i found the off-sound yet only in the last 02:20 of 'The Mummy Attacks' whereas it returns more frequently in TMR, where some parts sound (i. e. the stereo separation in 'Canyon Deluge') not much better than the old bootleg while other parts sound great. There is something not right with the source material, i guess. Yeah there's definitely something up with the source material for TMR. Compare Dirigible Montage with the start of the suite. I'm pretty sure it's the same performance, but the former sounds weird with the brass buried in the mix, whereas the latter sounds amazing. Some other tracks also have the same issue, such as Sandcastles. Plus the entire L.A.-recorded finale sounds weird, but it sounded the same on the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Perhaps it was ghost-remasted by Shawn Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 As promised haha, here is a specific awesome moment from Yoko Kanno's "Turn a Gundam" (apparently an anime show) concert performance. I'd of course recommend listening to whole the cue (and whole score), but this is just the end of my favorite cue: (goes until end of cue) Majestic... 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Incanus said: Have you seen the film? I found it absolutely hilarious. Got to catch it on the plane. Was an absolute riot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The Mummy Returns by Alan Silvestri I rarely try and listen to really long takes-up-more-than-one-disc scores (Lost World, Batman Returns and The Shadow are ze exceptions rather than ze rule), so I wasn't surprised in the least to find the number of unneeded cues here. Even then, I found enough fun to make for an 84 minute romp....which, yes, includes the song. By the sound of it, I think the Goldsmith Mummy was fine in its original album, so I'm in no rush to grab that one. Silvestri's sounds much campier and happier to be here in comparison, so it's a bit more to my subjective liking, even though I vastly prefer Goldsmith under any other circumstances. I somehow enjoy both these scores without having yet watched either of the movies. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Plus the entire L.A.-recorded finale sounds weird, but it sounded the same on the boot. Does it still have that same tinny sound the boot had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Yes it basically sounds the same as the boot - like there's a wall between the mikes and the orchestra. The other cues I mentioned aren't quite as bad, but still don't sound right. (and by 'right', I'm using the best-recorded cues such as revised My First Bus Ride as a baseline) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Yes it basically sounds the same as the boot - like there's a wall between the mikes and the orchestra. The other cues I mentioned aren't quite as bad, but still don't sound right. (and by 'right', I'm using the best-recorded cues such as revised My First Bus Ride as a baseline) That is pretty awful. Do all the unreleased pieces sound like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Really one of my favourite scores of the 2000s, and... this. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (Incanus) No, it seems to vary quite a bit; a lot of it sounds great. This is all subjective of course - all I can say is that a lot of it sounds either muddy or just not matching the best sounding parts. Complete opposite to The Mummy where the soundscape's been opened quite astonishingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Incanus said: That is pretty awful. Do all the unreleased pieces sound like that? No. Some sound awful - Canyon Deluge, parts of Medjai Commanders - others brilliant (My First Bus Ride, End Credits) and there are some from the LA sessions that do not sound like the bootleg (Rick Battles Imhotep) but somehwere in-between. The real puzzler is that some of the London-recorded cues seem to be affected even when they sounded great on the Decca, others from the same source sound like an improvement on that. Whoever did this set tuned out at some crucial QC point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,713 Posted July 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2018 Star Wars: The Force Awakens by John Williams: Still as terrific as ever. Taikomochi, SteveMc and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,399 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Curse of the Black Pearl (OST) A weird album, but once you get past the track titles (I know the reason), the criminal runtime, the choice to create one continuous musical suite by crossfading everything and designating separate tracks literally randomly, it does do quite an OK job at selecting and sequencing highlights from this great score. Are the audio issues in tracks like Swords Crossed, To the Pirates' Cave, and One Last Shot mastering/manufacturing defects present everywhere, or is this the only album in the universe my earphones I use at work cannot handle? The major distortions in One Last Shot are also present in the session leak (A Happy Out), I had to rip sections from the movie and substitute them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,934 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Yesterday I had a bit of a lazy afternoon on the beach with some Goldsmith. Not entire scores, just select cues from: The Blue Max The Edge City Hall Star Trek: The Motion Picture Damnation Alley Escape from the Planet of the Apes First Knight The Mummy (Tadlow suite) Inchon The Agony and the Ecstasy prologue Alien Basic Instinct The Challenge First Blood Rambo: First Blood Part II Star Trek: Nemesis The Sum of All Fears The 13th Warrior Karol SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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