#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 But what if Gaff is a Replicant too? Would that not change the dynamic? Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Geez, Louise, is there anybody in BR who isn't a replicant?! Chinese lady? Abdul Ben Hassan? Taffy Lewis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Roy Batty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Richard said: Since Gaff is also a blade runner ... All we know is that Gaff is the right-hand man of police chief Bryant. 1 hour ago, Richard said: ... it made no sense for him to let Rachel live ... But wasn't that Deckard's job? BTW, apparently any IMDb user/member can add names to the cast list so it's probably not true that Olmos is in the new movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Richard said: Bes, I think you mean "implanted" Since Gaff is also a blade runner, it made no sense for him to let Rachel live, especially as Bryant said that she needed to be retired. Dagnabit, the film's just crap! I saw the movie longtime ago. Do we know if Gaff knows from the begining that Deckhart is a replicant? Rachael saves the life of Deckhart at the end of the movie and the two are in love... We'll never know exactly why, but both deserve "to live" to the eyes of Gaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's "Dickhard", not "Deckhart". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Please stop, I have an alert on this word. It makes "Bing!" each time it's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The next film definitely needs a line explaining all that! "I always knew you were a skinjob, Rick! Even before Bryant told me. You wanna know how I knew? I looked into your eyes!" - Gaff Olmos with his gravely Adama-like delivery could pull it off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Bespin said: Do we know if Gaff knows from the begining that Deckhart is a replicant? A police department working with disposable blade runners means we can assume they already knew about it from the start. Deckard could be an experiment. This explains why Bryant and Gaff always happen to be around. In one of the cut scenes they are monitoring an unaware Deckard (while working on the job) to evaluate how he is faring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Deckard is an Engineer. You'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Will all of you, just stop it?! Deckard is not - repeat not - a replicant!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 But he clearly is! Havent you studied Blade Runner? It's themes? Evidence from all versions will indicate strongly if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I can't deny what the director is suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Sadly this turns Blade Runner into a Nolan-like puzzle. A philosophy lesson rather than a film that really leaves you with something to think about. Blade Runner is his greatest film, but sadly Ridley...modern Ridley has been slowly eating away at it for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The unicorn reverie has put too much emphasis on it but it was always a part of Blade Runner, even in 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 To much salt in an otherwise finely prepared dish will ruin it Alex. And Ridley has been adding salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 What do you think Villeneuve added, Stiff? Pepper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Added? I have no way of knowing. He will add a deep reference to the original, but that might not be such a great addition. At best we will end up with a 2010. A decently made, but clearly inferior sequel that hasn't really diminished the power of Kubricks original. At worst Scott and a misguided Villeneuve will rob Blade Runner of it's innate power and mystery. Very very few film makers understand the concept of mystery. The value of not explaining what they were trying to say in the last act. Kubrick did. Scott once did, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, Stefancos said: To much salt in an otherwise finely prepared dish will ruin it Alex. And Ridley has been adding salt. For you and for me, but to the rest of the world, the unicorn reverie actually added the salt to the dish ... or a new layer, as they call it. And with the deletion of the voiceover and the 'happy end' of the original release, the film became suddenly highly regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Of course. Ridley probably figured Blade Runner failed because he didnt point out his clues well enough. Let's hope Spielberg will one-day readdress Empire Of The Sun and more plainly point out it's subtexts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Oh, ol' Ridders wanted it to be a part of the original movie but the producers deemed the unicorn too artsy fartsy and so it was cut out. Were the producers responsible for the superior version? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 So...depending on which version of the film, that you have seen/know well/prefer (*), Deckard both is, and is not, a replicant. * delete where inapplicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yes! Everything goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Including a glimpse of stocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bit of camel toe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Richard said: So...depending on which version of the film, that you have seen/know well/prefer (*), Deckard both is, and is not, a replicant. * delete where inapplicable. It's just more explicit in the DC and the FC. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Deckart is indeed a replicant but a generation that is not programmed at birth to die... This generation seems to take age like a human, it's why we'll see him in the new movie. I don't think Rachael is still alive... Maybe a previous generation of Replicant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Very possible! The mystery of Blade Runner will be solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Very possible! The mystery of Blade Runner will be solved! Gaff: [voiceover] It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, Bespin said: Deckart is indeed a replicant but a generation that is not programmed at birth to die... This generation seems to take age like a human, it's why we'll see him in the new movie. I don't think Rachael is still alive... Maybe a previous generation of Replicant. You mean that Deckard might be a Nexus 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, Richard said: You mean that Deckard might be a Nexus 7? Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Dave Bautista: Quote “Deakins is a genius, and it was amazing. Not only him but Villeneuve, he’s also a genius. It’s weird, it’s a different experience because it was a slow process, because so much of what they do it so meticulous. They were just shooting with one camera, and it slows down the process, but at the same time they’re getting exactly what they want and they’re not playing around. When I looked back at some of the playbacks, even scenes I wasn’t in, it looks like such an amazing looking film, it’s just insane man. It’s breathtaking.” http://collider.com/dave-bautista-blade-runner-2-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-bushwick-interview/#roger-deakins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Seems like he's praising Deakins more than Villeneuve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Film probably looks ridiculously good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Oh, come on, guys. Snake oil. He's hardly going to say "well, to be honest, it looks like watered-down shit", is he? To an extent, he's paid to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It's just all alternative facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, Richard said: Oh, come on, guys. Snake oil. He's hardly going to say "well, to be honest, it looks like watered-down shit", is he? To an extent, he's paid to say that. He only comments on the look. I can easily imagine that he is impressed with that because Villenueve and Deakins are going to give highest attention to the way this film looks. I don't think they forced him to say that. In a way, he's saying, I don't know about this movie but it surely looks handsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Aye, and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: He only comments on the look. I can easily imagine that he is impressed with that because Villenueve and Deakins are going to give highest attention to the way this film looks. I don't think they forced him to say that. In a way, he's saying, I don't know about this movie but it surely looks handsome. Alex, anything an actor, director etc says about the films he's doing while its been shot or promoted is 100% advertisement. Have you ever heard Liam Neeson say "I'm doing this Luc Besson produced action film right now. The script isnt much, but it's a very well paid trip to Turkey." Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Richard said: Aye, and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. *blows referee whistle* Oi! Keep that business in Other Topics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Doesn't mean he's lying. The slow process, the attention to detail, only one camera for shooting the whole movie, him being impressed with the look, ... It's precisely what all the actors remember from the original movie. Harrison Ford didn't understand why Scott was more interested in the sets then in him. Where do you guys think Dave is going overboard with his comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: *blows referee whistle* Oi! Keep that business in Other Topics! Up yer shaft! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Richard said: Up yer shaft! Thank you Mr. Richard. I'll try not to take that personally. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 No offence meant, Stu! M. Emmet Walsh remembered the smoke room. Rutger Hauer remembered a sheet of glass, between him, and Ford. Ford had just completed ROTLA, which was all about the big gesture. Let's all calm down (insert Scousers clip, here) and reserve our not inconsiderable, and unintelligent judgements, until October. 24 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Alex, anything an actor, director etc says about the films he's doing while its been shot or promoted is 100% advertisement. Have you ever heard Liam Neeson say "I'm doing this Luc Besson produced action film right now. The script isnt much, but it's a very well paid trip to Turkey." No, but he said as much about TPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 During it's production or a few years later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Richard said: No offence meant, Stu! Was trying to keep the STIII lines going! Admittedly it's not the most memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Stu, your posts, today, have been outstanding, and I intend to recommend you for promotion...in whatever thread you end up serving (!). Best speed to Other Topics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, Richard said: Stu, your posts, today, have been outstanding, and I intend to recommend you for promotion...in whatever thread you end up serving (!). Best speed to Other Topics! Other Topics?! Other Topics allowed is not! Is forum forbidden! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Richard said: Oh, come on, guys. Snake oil. He's hardly going to say "well, to be honest, it looks like watered-down shit", is he? To an extent, he's paid to say that. Well, I mean, sure, but this is Deakins we're talking about. I don't think he's ever made anything that looked even close to "watered-down shit." It's no stretch of the imagination to think that this film is going to look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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