publicist 4,643 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Wild guess: the part of the movie that is 'action' is much bigger than in the original so it couldn't be successfully duplicated from the old Vangelis score which left a gaping hole for Johansson to fill. Since these scenes are considered the $$$ shots, they wouldn't wait for him to come up with a successful solution, also because Zimmer & team bring along a huge technological facility where such things can be produced much faster. I don't think it's an outrage but sure it would have been more interesting to hear the sole vision of JJ instead of a last-minute tinkering of 10 other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,328 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 10 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: or is there a push for more blockbustery antics that Hans can deliver like no other? 28 minutes ago, publicist said: Wild guess: the part of the movie that is 'action' is much bigger than in the original so it couldn't be successfully duplicated from the old Vangelis score So there are looking for a modern day Zimmer sound instead of an early retro Vangelis/Johann's atmospherics one? Maybe. I don't think Villeneuve is afraid for a different kind of score so I still think the name Zimmer is strongly suggested by the suits upstairs . The investors might consider Johann's approach a risk and therefore want something more conventional, something that meets the expectations of the modern audience. It's a last-minute job and it has to be exactly what they want. There can be no mistakes! Who you're gonna call? 10 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Enter Hans, Zebra in hand.... Hehehehe, the 'fall' was pretty good. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: So there are looking for a modern day Zimmer sound instead of an early retro Vangelis/Johann's atmospherics one? Maybe. I don't think Villeneuve is afraid for a different kind of score so I still think the name Zimmer is strongly suggested by the suits upstairs . The investors might consider Johann's approach a risk and therefore want something more conventional, something that meets the expectations of the modern audience. It's a last-minute job and it has to be exactly what they want. There can be no mistakes! Who you're gonna call? Hehehehe, the 'fall' was pretty good. Alex I think Blade Runner 2049 is the first movie where Jóhannsson isn't going to get away with his atmospheric style of scoring. With Arrival and Sicario, those were art movies so I doubt the studios wanted to interfere. This sounds a lot like the studios putting the brakes on his music and wanted something more propulsive so they got Zimmer in there. I wonder what this means for the Villeneuve/Jóhannsson collaborations in the future, especially since Villeneuve's next film is Dune, which is a big budget epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Sicario was an art movie? 7 hours ago, Mephariel said: I wonder what this means for the Villeneuve/Jóhannsson collaborations in the future, especially since Villeneuve's next film is Dune, which is a big budget epic. Same as what it meant for David Julyan after Nolan started doing big Hollywood stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Sicario is the answer to "What is art?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Art ain't pretty. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 1:30 PM, Disco Stu said: It's probably some kind of psychological bias of mine, but most of my favorite pop bands are either the vision of a "chief" songwriter or they have multiple songwriters but each one brings their own distinct songs to the table with collaboration limited to arrangement choices. Good examples of the former: The Kinks (Ray Davies), Wilco (Jeff Tweedy), The Who (Pete Townshend), The White Stripes (Jack White), Thin Lizzy (Phil Lynott), The Jam (Paul Weller), The Replacements (Paul Westerberg), Weezer (Rivers Cuomo), The La's (Lee Mavers), Pulp (Jarvis Cocker), Modest Mouse (Isaac Brock), The Smashing Pumpkins (Billy Corgan), Nirvana (Kurt Cobain), The Shins (James Mercer) Good examples of the latter: Queen, CSNY, Teenage Fanclub, Sonic Youth, The New Pornographers, The Pixies Of course there are the famous songwriting duos, like Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Morrissey/Marr, Fagen/Becker, Bono/The Edge etc. And there are definitely bands whose song writing was true collaboration, REM is my go-to example. I just think they're less common. I dunno, I've never thought bands were a particularly good comparison to film composing because bands are songwriters who are also the definitive performers of their own songs. Very different from what Williams does. Lennon/McCartney is a difficult one because that got fractured quite quickly and even in the early stuff you can what's a Lennon song and what's a McCartney song. They bounced ideas and took advice off each other but it was far from a 50-50 partnership. Morrissey and Marr was 50/50 but one wrote music and the other out the words on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Sicario is on Netflix and I keep hovering over it. Can't bring myself to press play though. It's not one of those really dense with dialogue crime thrillers is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 It's a bland, dreary film with none of the personality of his other films. But in general I don't like crime type movies. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The convoy setpiece is amazing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 In large part thanks to the score, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I guess. I didnt really notice the score. For me it was Deakins superb camerawork. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I loved Sicario. It's one of the few contemporary thrillers made with any moral investment. In that sense Villeneuve is the antithesis to the likes of Mann, Fincher, Roskam and Refn. KK and Koray Savas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Quintus said: Sicario is on Netflix and I keep hovering over it. Can't bring myself to press play though. It's not one of those really dense with dialogue crime thrillers is it? I loved it, but I hear I have shit taste, so take @Sharky's word for it. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I am currently watching the tv series "Humans". I wonder where Blade Runner 2049 can go to amaze us, except showing machines who can create machines. It remembers me the "clones" war of Star Wars... in 1977 it was wow! In 1999 it was... boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,328 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Bespin said: I wonder where Blade Runner 2049 can go to amaze us ... I think it mainly wants to go back to the same universe Ridley Scott & Co created. More and bigger ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Oh, no; the BRU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Bet the third it will finally tie into the Alien universe as well as Thelma & Louise. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The T&LU I think that ended when they drove off of a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Like The Young Ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What's the bet this spiritual video game sequel to Blade Runner, voiced by Rutger Hauer, winds up being a better experience than the actual sequel: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/08/18/observer-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,328 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Is it better than BR2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Has this been posted yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 No. Expect Cremers to post it in a few hours, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Whoever the female actor on the poster is, she looks like Scarlet Johansson there And I still find it funny they chose to dress Deckard in a cotton tshirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ah yes, Miles Teller's wife in War Dogs! She was good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted August 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2017 Orange and teal...how refreshing Bofur01, Naïve Old Fart, DarthDementous and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yep, it does not good, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Indeed. Lame poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Where the Hell's John Alvin, when you need him? (edit) I just found out that he died, on 2009. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,328 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 11 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Expect Cremers to post it (the movie poster) in a few hours, though. And in much better quality too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 And it's not quite the same poster, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,328 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 As we now can see, Deckard Senior is in blockbuster blue .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Yea, if you compare the 2 posters, they're actually quite different. I wonder if one is finale and one was leaked out early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Alexcremers said: And in much better quality too! Teal and orange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 16 hours ago, Romão said: Orange and teal...how refreshing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 The former poster has a sort of Bob Peak quality, about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 24/08/2017 at 8:59 PM, Jay said: Has this been posted yet? That's actually badass. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Sarcasm? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Nope, I think it's an ace poster in of itself. Movie isn't really on my radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk 95 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 25/08/2017 at 1:22 PM, Jay said: Yea, if you compare the 2 posters, they're actually quite different. I wonder if one is finale and one was leaked out early One is US/Warner Bros, the other is international/Sony. Guess which one is which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Well, one says "Warner Bros", at the bottom, and one says "Columbia", at the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 26/08/2017 at 9:40 AM, Quintus said: Nope, I think it's an ace poster in of itself. Movie isn't really on my radar. I have the kind of attitude I should have had before Prometheus. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Wow, that is actually a very bad poster. What is this - 2002 with Harry Gregson Williams providing a spastic score to Tony Scott's frantic editing? Or Villeneuve being challenged by the studio. Well, Johannson will do fine, as will Wallfisch - both are capable composers and as long as Balfe, Kaczynski etc. or any of the RCP, are banned this will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk 95 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (rejected?) demo remix of the main Vangelis theme from Nero: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 New promo video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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