Blade Runner 2049

[Corellian2019 386]

‘Blade Runner 2049’ is Likely the Longest Blockbuster of 2017

 

http://www.slashfilm.com/blade-runner-2049-run-time-long/

[Naïve Old Fart 9,511]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

New promo video

 

 

 

The place needed redecorating, anyway 

 

 

I caught this, last night. It actually looks pretty good.

Just a QQ, though: if The Tyrrell Corp. made eyes, in 2019, then why is Jared Leto blind..?

Still, they've kept the "swoosh" noise, and the scene is well-cut, and looks gorgeous.

I like.

[A24 4,331]

That's just a short movie made by the son of Ridley Scott. Switched it off because it felt like a fanmade thingie.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,511]

Yes, I see your point. Viewed again, it does have a "fanboy" quality. Stick with it, though, Alex, as it's really not bad.

[A24 4,331]

Blade Runner 2049 is the longest Hollywood movie of 2017 so far ...

 

 

http://www.thewrap.com/blade-runner-2049-longest-movie/

[Jay 37,336]

On 8/31/2017 at 0:23 AM, Corellian2019 said:

‘Blade Runner 2049’ is Likely the Longest Blockbuster of 2017

 

http://www.slashfilm.com/blade-runner-2049-run-time-long/

 

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Cremeritis!

 

On 8/27/2017 at 6:06 PM, thestat said:

Wow, that is actually a very bad poster. What is this - 2002 with Harry Gregson Williams providing a spastic score to Tony Scott's frantic editing? Or Villeneuve being challenged by the studio. Well, Johannson will do fine, as will Wallfisch - both are capable composers and as long as Balfe, Kaczynski etc. or any of the RCP, are banned this will be great.

Eh fuck off. 

[antovolk 95]

Looks like JJ is indeed officially off the project. Score credited to Zimmer and Wallfisch 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Fuck's sake!  Desplat, Mansell, and Johannsson in the space of 12 months!

[publicist 4,643]

We had worse years.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[A24 4,331]

Maybe there was not enough space on the poster?

[KK 3,307]

For pete's sake!!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

It's so sad how Villeneuve has let us down on this front.  I only hope it was a producer decision.  The answer to whose responsibility it is will probably come with the composer announcement for his next film.

[KK 3,307]

I have faith in Villen...

sigh

 

I'm not sure how much longer I can keep this up.

[A24 4,331]

[DJan 8]

6 hours ago, antovolk said:

Looks like JJ is indeed officially off the project. Score credited to Zimmer and Wallfisch 

Aren't you the person who went INSANE on twitter over people saying Johannsson is being replaced and accusing pages who might have more inside info than you of not getting it right? Maybe time for an apology!

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

38 minutes ago, DJan said:

Aren't you the person who went INSANE on twitter over people saying Johannsson is being replaced and accusing pages who might have more inside info than you of not getting it right? Maybe time for an apology!

Who are you, again?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Saw the trailer in the cinema. This doesnt look anything like Blade Runner!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[antovolk 95]

59 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Who are you, again?

Yeah, this ^

Anyway, people kept misquoting the interview where DV explicitly said they were just 'helping out' JJ. Not a case of inside info but mistranslations. No news sources claimed more inside info that that interview. But looks like those 'misquotes' were indeed proven correct by the poster, so yes I'm having a dinner of crow  

[DJan 8]

3 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Who are you, again?

Someone who witnessed that guy throw out insults to people on twitter who could read between the lines of that interview and see what was going on.

2 hours ago, antovolk said:

Yeah, this ^

Anyway, people kept misquoting the interview where DV explicitly said they were just 'helping out' JJ. Not a case of inside info but mistranslations. No news sources claimed more inside info that that interview. But looks like those 'misquotes' were indeed proven correct by the poster, so yes I'm having a dinner of crow  

Not true, the pages I saw the news at clearly made it sound like they had other (unnamed) sources. And even if they didn't, anyone who understands the business just a little would know that a composer on Zimmer's level wouldn't come in as (per your "theory") an additional composer for a movie scored by Johannsson. That's about as plausible as John Williams composing additional music for Junkie XL's Tomb Raider lol.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Did you join just to give him a hard time?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Did you join just to give him a hard time?

Clearly.  Your current avatar seems apt.

[A24 4,331]

On 30-7-2017 at 1:17 PM, Alexcremers said:

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that more and more music of Johann will be replaced.

 

 

Remember my wise words, people!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

14 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

It's so sad how Villeneuve has let us down on this front.  I only hope it was a producer decision.  The answer to whose responsibility it is will probably come with the composer announcement for his next film.

The thing is, often times any break is the spark that keeps the director and composer apart. See Verbinski and Silvestri, Jonze and Burwell, Anderson and Mothersbaugh, Shyamalan and Howard, Aronofsky and Mansell (these last two remain to be seen, actually). Sacred collaborations are no longer safe. I'm glad Joe Wright went back to Marianelli after the Pan situation. 

[antovolk 95]

If they had inside info, they should have added something to the effect of "per our sources, JJ is off the project completely". Every single page I saw who got it 'wrong' was saying that 'Villeneuve revealed that JJ is getting replaced', which is clearly what not he said in the interview. It's not about reading between the lines, it's about good/bad reporting. Thankfully it was only FSR and a few others who had the 'replaced' part, everyone else quoted it accurately.

[KK 3,307]

2 hours ago, Koray Savas said:

The thing is, often times any break is the spark that keeps the director and composer apart. See Verbinski and Silvestri, Jonze and Burwell, Anderson and Mothersbaugh, Shyamalan and Howard, Aronofsky and Mansell (these last two remain to be seen, actually). Sacred collaborations are no longer safe. I'm glad Joe Wright went back to Marianelli after the Pan situation. 

Indeed. Perhaps that's why this is most disappointing to me, because Johannsson/Villeneuve seemed like the real deal. 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[James 119]

Well, what we have so far is a poster. It may have been a case of misinterpretation.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

No it's a case of Johansson not receiving any credit for the music. 

[A24 4,331]

So we're going to hear JJ and a few tracks by Zimmer but JJ will not get a credit for composer? Is that it?

[Fancyarcher 350]

This has Scott's fingerprints all over it. Due's a disaster when it comes to film music. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

10 hours ago, KK said:

Indeed. Perhaps that's why this is most disappointing to me, because Johannsson/Villeneuve seemed like the real deal. 

Like Nolan and David Julyan?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

14 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

So we're going to hear JJ and a few tracks by Zimmer but JJ will not get a credit for composer? Is that it?

I suspect any music he wrote thus far will be rejected. 

11 hours ago, Fancyarcher said:

This has Scott's fingerprints all over it. Due's a disaster when it comes to film music. 

Honestly, I think this could very well be Denis' decision. He's the one coming out and saying what's happening and that he wants more of out of the score that Johansson can't provide. I mean, it was his choice to keep the Max Richter temp as the melodic identity of Arrival, after all. 

[A24 4,331]

Remember Legend? It wasn't the director's decision to exchange Jerry Goldsmith for Tangerine Dream. Calling Hans Zimmer at the last minute sounds like something a scared producer would do. Maybe JJ went too artsy and experimental?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Better to play it safe and not risk the future of the Blade Runner franchise.

[publicist 4,643]

Tbh, the decision to keep a fairly blah Richter piece in 'Arrival' instead of providing an original approach to those (important) scenes already points to a tone-deaf director. 

[A24 4,331]

22 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Better to play it safe and not risk the future of the Blade Runner franchise.

It's not about the franchise, I think. It's about this movie and Villeneuve's future. What I mean is, sci-fi movies are very expensive to make and people want to see their money back. I know that a lot of people don't consider what JJ is doing is music. It's possible Villeneuve felt he had to comply with the wish of some high-placed suit in order not put his own career at risk. With other words, he didn't fight for JJ to the death because he thought it might backfire on him.

I'm pretty sure JJ did his own thing and that this might have been the problem.

I wonder if Zimmer will do Zimmer or copy Vangelis ...

 

Of course, it's still possible that the poster is faulty.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

On 9/6/2017 at 7:10 AM, Koray Savas said:

The thing is, often times any break is the spark that keeps the director and composer apart. See Verbinski and Silvestri, Jonze and Burwell, Anderson and Mothersbaugh, Shyamalan and Howard, Aronofsky and Mansell (these last two remain to be seen, actually). Sacred collaborations are no longer safe. I'm glad Joe Wright went back to Marianelli after the Pan situation. 

Jackson & Shore and the breaking of the fellowship. 

[Arpy 4,145]

4 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

Jackson & Shore and the breaking of the fellowship. 

Who would've thought monkey business would be the thing to break the two?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Well, clearly Shore gave up and said "Too much monkey business for me to be involved in"

[Fancyarcher 350]

9 hours ago, Koray Savas said:

Honestly, I think this could very well be Denis' decision. He's the one coming out and saying what's happening and that he wants more of out of the score that Johansson can't provide. I mean, it was his choice to keep the Max Richter temp as the melodic identity of Arrival, after all. 

Other then maybe the Vangelis inspired bits, I'm not sure how Villenueve would be disappointed with Blade Runner's score. I mean that Richter piece was only actually used in once in film, near the end, and the rest of Johansson's work basically functioned as sound design. 

8 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

It's not about the franchise, I think. It's about this movie and Villeneuve's future. What I mean is, sci-fi movies are very expensive to make and people want to see their money back. I know that a lot of people don't consider what JJ is doing is music. It's possible Villeneuve felt he had to comply with the wish of some high-placed suit in order not put his own career at risk. With other words, he didn't fight for JJ to the death because he thought it might backfire on him.

I'm pretty sure JJ did his own thing and that this might have been the problem.

I wonder if Zimmer will do Zimmer or copy Vangelis ...

 

Of course, it's still possible that the poster is faulty.

I'm not sure a producer or even an executive would care about film music nowadays. They'd probably prefer the score to stay in the background anyway, which means they'd probably love Johannsson's approach, at least that's what I gather. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

With the way productions are micromanaged these days I'm sure they care very much about the music that accompanies their product.

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33 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

 

I'm not sure a producer or even an executive would care about film music nowadays. They'd probably prefer the score to stay in the background anyway, which means they'd probably love Johannsson's approach, at least that's what I gather. 

It's the fact that it's Zimmer that reeks of a producer's call. Villeneuve's movies never had that  Zimmer odour. That and the way he is suddenly ditching his buddy JJ.

[Fancyarcher 350]

26 minutes ago, Alexcremers said:

It's the fact that it's Zimmer that reeks of a producer's call. Villeneuve's movies never had that  Zimmer odour. That and the way he is suddenly ditching his buddy JJ.

Yeah obviously, I'm going with the producer angel too. I just have no idea why they'd replace JJ with Zimmer considering that JJ probably would have given them what they wanted anyway. I'm guessing a producer was just being too nonspecific or something.

59 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

With the way productions are micromanaged these days I'm sure they care very much about the music that accompanies their product.

I'd say they probably care about how "unnoticeable" the music is. A lot of blockbuster scores these days are layered under lots of sound-effects, so you can barely hear anything. 

[Koray Savas 2,251]

2 hours ago, Fancyarcher said:

Other then maybe the Vangelis inspired bits, I'm not sure how Villenueve would be disappointed with Blade Runner's score. I mean that Richter piece was only actually used in once in film, near the end, and the rest of Johansson's work basically functioned as sound design. 

I'm not sure a producer or even an executive would care about film music nowadays. They'd probably prefer the score to stay in the background anyway, which means they'd probably love Johannsson's approach, at least that's what I gather. 

The piece was played almost in its entirety during the dialogue less opening. Johansson wrote an original piece for it but the temp won out in the end.

I still maintain the possibility that this is his decision because typically producer calls result in a press release or an exec talking about the change, not the director himself expressing that he personally wanted more from the music . Zimmer's involvement here is just for PR purposes. It's going to be a Wallfisch score.

 

 

[Fancyarcher 350]

1 hour ago, Koray Savas said:

The piece was played almost in its entirety during the dialogue less opening. Johansson wrote an original piece for it but the temp won out in the end.

I still maintain the possibility that this is his decision because typically producer calls result in a press release or an exec talking about the change, not the director himself expressing that he personally wanted more from the music . Zimmer's involvement here is just for PR purposes. It's going to be a Wallfisch score.

Isn't that pretty much the case with any of the scores where Zimmer has co-credit though? He just does the theme, and leaves the rest up to his composer / "team" so to say. 

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

I'm pretty sure this is the director's call.  The comments he's made about the situation ring true to me.

And frankly the Zimmer hate some of you have is blinding you to recognising that there are actually projects he might be well suited to contribute to...like this one.

[Brónach 1,302]

14 hours ago, publicist said:

Tbh, the decision to keep a fairly blah Richter piece in 'Arrival' instead of providing an original approach to those (important) scenes already points to a tone-deaf director. 

It felt out of place to me. I loved the rest of the score in that movie.

Then again I'm still a bit pissed at the movie for wanting to be a random indie drama instead of a genuine hard sci-flick.

"Do you want to make a baby" oh what the fuck

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On 5/9/2017 at 9:39 PM, Stefancos said:

Saw the trailer in the cinema. This doesnt look anything like Blade Runner!

Why not?