Jay 37,336 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Woops, should have read all the posts before posting that. Yea, time for me to create a spoilers-allowed thread for everyone to discuss it openly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken 10 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, Thor said: OK, so came back from the movie a couple of hours ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, to be honest. There are things I like very much, and other things that didn't really trigger me. I think I need some time to digest it, and I need to see it more times. Don't expect this to be as consistent as the original BLADE RUNNER. We move to very different locales, with very different visual looks, so it doesn't have the all-engrossing, visceral experience of the original. Also, much of the subtext is more literal than in the original. I'm not going to mention any spoilers here; I assume most of you are seeing this tomorrow or Friday? But there are definitely things to discuss -- both in terms of narrative, topic, visuals, music, sound design, qualities and things that are not so impressive. I'll post my thoughts on the Zimmer score in the other thread. Personally I think this is 2010 all over again, trying to do what 2001 did but had to answer too many unanswered questions, almost spoon feeding us Why make sequels anymore if we ruin the original intent with, let e explain further. Alien Covenant is a perfect example of what I think ruins the original intent of Alien, as did Prometheus Less is more sometimes. I might go view the film today, the fact I said "might" shows my lack of enthusiasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Uh-oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Well all those who thought they'd hate it if Thor loved it can breathe a sigh of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 OSCAR!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 For Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 At last he can finally catch up on his sleep. 15 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Now that Thor didn't love it, all bets are off! No, I'm inspirited by his reaction. Films like this don't tend to have real potential unless they truly divide opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Thor said: Also, much of the subtext is more literal than in the original. Villeneuve probably didn't want to take any chances and wait 10 years before people say it's a misunderstood masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Snake Plissken said: Personally I think this is 2010 all over again, trying to do what 2001 did but had to answer too many unanswered questions, almost spoon feeding us Have you seen the movie? What am I asking, of course you have. Why else would you come on here saying such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 9:49 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said: Why do they need vision? Racist! Disgusting terrestrial evolution privilege! Independent evolution of eyes seems to be common if there's avalaible light. Well I mean eyes or EYES or ""eyes"", I'd hardly call a layer of cells that detect where light comes from and that's it and eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2017 Natural selection at work! The organisms that can use light to know a predator is coming live longer and procreate! Evolution really is amazing. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As @Quintus has noted elsewhere, Harrison Ford really is having a fantastic time promoting this movie Quintus, James and DarthDementous 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Which is odd because he hated promoting the first one. I want the glass! I can see another Ford-Gosling collaboration in the near future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Written and directed by Shane Black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 It will be about a young cop and his father, and they are forced to work together on a case. Sigh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3,5 out of 4 stars for Blade Runner 2049 on Rogerebert.com, Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I was a bit disappointed Matt Zoller Seitz didn't review it for the Ebert site. He's one of my favorite critics. Not as familiar with this Tallerico fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The ghost of Roger Ebert likes it? Well, he didn't like the first one so everything is alright with the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He turned around on it though! After the Director's Cut he gave it 4 stars and added it to his Great Movies pantheon! Also, the "Ebert reviewing films even though he's dead" jokes about RogerEbert.com were old 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I dunno man, I don't think it's dignified to slate something and then later call it one of the greatest film's ever just to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He never did that. He acknowledged Blade Runner as a great film without ever going back on his own personal reservations about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Read something before throwing around your judgement. that's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Also, the "Ebert reviewing films even though he's dead" jokes about RogerEbert.com were old 3 years ago. So are the "Hey, look the rating on Ebert's website by some random reviewer. It's very important!" posts! DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ratings are always silly, but I enjoy reading a good review. It's a key part of film culture for me going back to when I was 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Yea. But I think it's reasonable to get excited if your favourite reviewer, whose recommendations you trust, raves about a certain film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Precisely! Which is why I said I wish that Zoller Seitz (EIC of the Ebert site) had reviewed it because I've been reading him since I was a teenager so I'm familiar with his taste and POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 49 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I was a bit disappointed Matt Zoller Seitz didn't review it for the Ebert site. He's one of my favorite critics. Not as familiar with this Tallerico fella. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Read something before throwing around your judgement. that's all I'm saying. ? My remark was a response to Alex's and DiscoStu's comments. I didn't go on a tour of Google to verify what I read after that, so what? Are you massive Ebert fan or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, KK said: Yea. But I think it's reasonable to get excited if your favourite reviewer, whose recommendations you trust, raves about a certain film. Sure, but it's something I can't quite relate to, since I don't have what one calls "a favourite reviewer". I have reviewers I like reading, but none that I agree with on most films, so there are none with which a review could make me more or less excited about a film (plus, I generally read reviews AFTER I've watched the film, so there is that). At best, it could make me curious about a film I had no interest in watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 In Lee's defence, a lot of critics have...how does one say it?...revised their opinions of a film, over time. Critics roasted BLADE RUNNER, in 1982, but did a 1-80, when the director's cut was released. It's not unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Cremers didn't like the film either in 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Sure, but it's something I can't quite relate to, since I don't have what one calls "a favourite reviewer". I have reviewers I like reading, but none that I agree with on most films, so there are none with which a review could make me more or less excited about a film (plus, I generally read reviews AFTER I've watched the film, so there is that). At best, it could make me curious about a film I had no interest in watching. I'm the same. I don't have a favourite reviewer, and certainly not someone I would choose to see, or not see, a film based on their opinion. However, I am pretty adept at reading a range of reviews and in the aggregate getting a pretty good idea of whether I'm going to like a film or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Sure, but it's something I can't quite relate to, since I don't have what one calls "a favourite reviewer". I have reviewers I like reading, but none that I agree with on most films, so there are none with which a review could make me more or less excited about a film (plus, I generally read reviews AFTER I've watched the film, so there is that). At best, it could make me curious about a film I had no interest in watching. This is the case for me as well. But I can understand others' heightened enthusiasm for positive reviews from certain critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Speaking of critics I admire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken 10 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 There is a good interview on The Graham Norton show between Ford & Gosling, actually quite funny. The "punch" is explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 So. It was a really good Blade Runner movie with some reservations that mainly concern the third act. But the world Scott created in 1982 is intact and elaborated upon and , most importantly, the pace is a big fuck you to the ADHS generation - it is slooooow! But that's how you want your BR movies. I could've done without the baddie chick and some other stuff i can't spoiler right now but on the whole, it certainly was a 2017 highlight for me. Score was mostly irrelevant sound design without much purpose. But with Villeneuve, it at least doesn't come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I didn't 'dislike' the Wallfisch/Zimmer, either, but generally this director belongs to the music stay the fuck out of my picture-filmmakers ('Arrival' was much more inventive and relevant to the story, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Is the movie any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 It's led by three blond barely clothed Fox News anchors. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 15 hours ago, publicist said: So. It was a really good Blade Runner movie with some reservations that mainly concern the third act. But the world Scott created in 1982 is intact and elaborated upon and , most importantly, the pace is a big fuck you to the ADHS generation - it is slooooow! But that's how you want your BR movies. I could've done without the baddie chick and some other stuff i can't spoiler right now but on the whole, it certainly was a 2017 highlight for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: It's led by three blond barely clothed Fox News anchors. Shannon Bream, Kat Timph and Sandra Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Lisa Lovesuck, Candy Clitbasher and Trisha Vixen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 EDIT: Woops! Wrong thread. Solid film, good sequel, but disappointing. Might be Villeneuve's weakest film. Still, in the era of Marvel/Disney conglomeration, it's good to see films like this finding mainstream success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Dude! It's not a spoiler-allowed thread! It is here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 KK! YOU CUNT! Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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