#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 In ROTK Gandalf worries about Frodo's and Sam having taken the pass of Cirith Ungol.Ungol obviously referencing Ungoliant..... Hmmm never caught that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 You are perilously close to my ignore list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 I have Faith Jason will deal with you accordingly if you that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Jason is the Steward of JWFAN, untill the King returns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 In ROTK Gandalf worries about Frodo's and Sam having taken the pass of Cirith Ungol.Ungol obviously referencing Ungoliant..... Hmmm never caught that one.And Necromancer obviously references necromancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Me too actually.That's a brilliant picture above, is it Ted Nasmith? Love the flaming blade.That's Angus McBride. Oddly enough, I too thought it was by Ted Nasmith, at first.By the way, that makes me think that McBride is probably the only guy who depicted the White Council assault on Dol Guldur.whoah, that saruman looks exactly like gandalf the white in the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Well they are hard to tell apart in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Cool pic. It's a shame we won't get to see Saruman take part in the expulsion of Sauron from Dol Guldur in the film version due to Christopher Lee's health. Then again, they might work into the films that Saruman opposed them entering Dol Guldur and therefore refuses to take part. It's cool that Radagast is supposed to to take part in it. It's too bad he wasn't written into the White Council scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Well, at least Christopher Lee is still recording Christmas albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 In ROTK Gandalf worries about Frodo's and Sam having taken the pass of Cirith Ungol.Ungol obviously referencing Ungoliant..... Hmmm never caught that one.Ungol means spider in Sindarin. Ungoliant means dark spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 But did he write ROTK first and come up with the legend of Ungoliant later? Or did he already have Ungoliant in mind when he wrote ROTK had Shelob and Cirith Ungol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Shelob is said to be a descendant of Ungoliant in TTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes, even though The Sil was published decades after LOTR a lot of it's stories and concepts already existed, though Tolkien spend the rest of his life fine-tuning them. I always got the idea he was far more fascinated and personally attached to The Elder Days then he was too the end of the Third Age.At one point he had hoped that LOTR and the Sil would be published together. But his publisher forbade it. I wonder if he would have been able to finish it if he had been allowed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Just finished my centennial reading of The Lord Of The Rings. Amazed that after ten times it can still move me, distract my attention, be intrigued by it's prose, and that i can still gain some hope from it.Most of all, amazing that I still read new things that never caught my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I'll be starting my own annual reading of LotR soon. You always pick up new things with each read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Just finished my centennial reading of The Lord Of The Rings.You've been reading it for 100 years? You're more badass than Christopher Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 I am Christopher Lee...Or Christopher Lee as he should have been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I think you meant to say annual reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Nope. I don't read it once a year. I read it whenever I feel like it. Have you ever read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Of course! What kind of a question is that?BTW A centennial reading would imply you read it once every 100 years. So I dunno what you meant to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Of course! What kind of a question is that?This post made me think that maybe you didn't read it.So wait, in the film version, after the Witch King breaks Gandalf's staff, he only then leaves because he hears the call of the Rohirrum on the plain. Are you saying in the book, it isn't the Witch King that leaves their duel, but Gandalf? What does the Witch King do while Gandalf runs upstairs to help Faramir, just go about attacking the city with no one opposing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I don't remember every little detail from the book. I last read it in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 That won't do! That's a centennial ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Its a decade ago. I'm going to reread it again soon, after I finish rereading The Hobbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 IIRC the version in the 1980 animated movie was closer to the book version (though done "badly") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What's the deal with the 2 statues Sam has to sneak by to get into the tower that Frodo's being held in? I remember the statues being a bigger deal in the book and the animated version than in PJ's film. I wonder if the full scene was filmed and still not restored or not filmed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What's the deal with the 2 statues Sam has to sneak by to get into the tower that Frodo's being held in? I remember the statues being a bigger deal in the book and the animated version than in PJ's film. I wonder if the full scene was filmed and still not restored or not filmed at all.The ROTK video game had a short bit of an homage to that, you can see a statue turn and look at Sam I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The guardians sound an alarm as soon as he passes them. The film seems to have a rather brutal cut there, and I've always wondered why they'd show them so bluntly only to completely ignore them the next second. I was hoping for a missing scene to show up in the EE, but of course it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I betcha it was filmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The commentary refers to this being filmed if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 yes i remember the commentary. i think they also mention orcs being like stormtroopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I wish he had just put everything back into the EE, or whatever he deemed "unworthy" he released in a bonus "delete scenes" feature. Though I suppose this way he has fodder for a future expanded expanded edition of the films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 He should've put that in and left the skull avalanche hidden out of sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 He hated the Paths Of The Dead part of the book, so did his own thing. Not much Tolkien there.What is in your opinion the one part in any of the films were PJ absolutely nails Tolkien?For me its gotta be FOTR, Moria. The scene starting with Gollum, Gandalf's soliloquy about fate and pity and ending with the reveal of the Dwarrowdelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It shows that he didn't like the Paths of the Dead part of the book - Tolkien's version shits on Jacko's vanilla take on it. I remember really wanting to see Aragorn and his dead host howling their way through the settlements and hamlets along the way to Pelennor, but again Jackson disappointed. The Moria sequence is excellent though, along with countless other moments. For me there are many Tolkienesque highlights in the trilogy, hence why it was so successful methinks. Jackson nails it more than he fails, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Though I suppose this way he has fodder for a future expanded expanded edition of the films really? No, it cant be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 I fully expect him to recut these movies for a future release. The 20th anniversary or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 it's january 3rd! happy birthday tolkien!I'll honor the date by reading the hobbit on the night train on my way home tonight edit: damn you, bb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Happy Birthday. You have had a great impact in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 If JRRT hadn't written The Lord of the Rings, GL would have had one less inspirational source for his magnum opus saga, and for all we know, JW would have been drawn into the Star Trek series instead, and we'd all still be here.I take comfort in the fact knowing that I have described exactly one alternate universe that is spinning away out there, somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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