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Complete Cue List: Attack Of The Clones

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OK I know there is already the Prequel Unreleased Music Resource thread containing some of this information, but I know a lot of people don't go in there as it mostly deals with cataloging and editing where unreleased music can be found in various video game releases. So I wanted to make an easy to find thread with all the information. Currently the video game information is not included here, but I might get around to adding it at some point.

 

 

 

Attack Of The Clones by John Williams

 

COMPLETE CUE LIST

 

01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27

02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45

03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29

04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56

05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42

06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32

07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09

08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02

09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32

10 2m3 Departure - 1:44

11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14

12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55

13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21

14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35

15 3m1 Insert - 0:30

16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48

17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57

18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55

19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29

20 3m5 Insert - 0:35

21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44

22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56

23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45

24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52

25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57

26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18

27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09

28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47

29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43

30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17

31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54

32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22

33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41

34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01

35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42

36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55

37 5m6 Insert

38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46

39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43

40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25

41 6m2 Sweetener

42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05

43 6m5 Insert - 0:19

44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59

45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21

46 7m3 Finale - 5:28

47 7m3 Insert - 0:38

48 End Credit - 5:31

49 End Credit (CD Version)

50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38

51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00

52 Across The Stars - 5:38 - 02 Across The Stars

TOTAL TIME: Approx 2 Hours.

 

 

 

RELEASE INFORMATION

01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27 - 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:25-1:41] (0:16) / Unreleased (1:11)

02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45 - Unreleased

03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29 - Unreleased

04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56 - Unreleased

05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [0:00-0:24] (0:24) / Unreleased (2:40) / [0:24-1:02] (0:38)

06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [1:02-2:32] (1:30) / Unreleased (0:15) / [2:32-4:20] (1:48)

07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [4:20-7:27]

08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [7:27- 10:17] (2:50) / Unreleased (0:23) / [10:17-end] (0:50)

09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32 - Unreleased

10 2m3 Departure - 1:44 - 05 Departing Coruscant

11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14 - Unreleased

12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55 - 04 Yoda and the Younglings

13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21 - Unreleased

14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35 - 01 Main Title and Ambush on Coruscant [2:11-end]

15 3m1 Insert - 0:30 - Unreleased

16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48 - Unreleased

17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57 - Unreleased

18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55 - 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [1:27-end]

19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [0:00-1:37] / Unreleased/Never Recorded (0:35) / [2:12-2:29]

20 3m5 Insert - 0:35 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [1:37-2:12]

21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44 - 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:39-2:11] (0:32) / Unreleased (2:10)

22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56 - 06 Anakin and Padme

23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [2:29-2:40] (0:11) / Unreleased (0:55) / [2:40-3:52] (1:12) / Unreleased (0:03) / [3:52-end] (0:22)

24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52 - 07 Jango's Escape [0:00-3:16] (0:36) / Unreleased (0:04) / [3:16-end]

25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57 - Unreleased

26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18 - 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [0:00-1:17] (1:17) / Unreleased (0:10) / [1:17-1:27] (0:10) / Unreleased (0:40)

27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09 - 10 Return To Tatooine [0:00-4:09]

28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47 - 10 Return To Tatooine [4:09-end]

29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [0:00-2:43]

30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [2:43-4:00]

31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [4:00-end]

32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22 - Unreleased

33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41 - Unreleased

34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01 - Unreleased

35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42 - 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:00-0:0:23] / Unreleased (0:06) / [0:23-0:35] (0:12) / Unreleased (0:06) / [0:35-0:44] (0:09) / Unreleased (:40) / [0:44-0:50] (0:06)

36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55 - 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:50-2:50ish] (2:00) / Unreleased (0:13) / [2:50ish-3:01] (0:11) / Unreleased (0:32)

37 5m6 Insert

38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46 - Unreleased

39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43 - 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [0:00-2:26] / Unreleased (0:02) / [2:26-2:42]

40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25 - 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [2:42-6:58] / Unreleased (0:09)

41 6m2 Sweetener

42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05 - Unreleased (0:20) / 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [6:58-7:10] (0:12) / Unreleased (0:27) / [7:10-7:40] (0:20) / [8:00-8:15] (0:15) / Unreleased (0:11)

43 6m5 Insert - 0:19 - 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [7:40-8:00]

44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59 - Unreleased

45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21 - Unreleased

46 7m3 Finale - 5:28 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [0:00-0:32] (0:32) / Unreleased (0:20) / [0:32-1:15] (0:43) / Unreleased (0:25) / [1:15-2:59] (1:44) / Unreleased (0:38) / [3:37-4:43] (1:06)

47 7m3 Insert - 0:38 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [2:59-3:37] (0:38)

48 End Credit - 5:31 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [5:36-end]

49 End Credit (CD Version) - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded

50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38 - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded

51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00 - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded

52 Across The Stars - 5:38 - 02 Across The Stars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 27 bars

Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:25-1:39] (0:14) - only the beginning of the cue, as the OST segues to 3m6 instead

Film Alterations: The second to last chord was dropped.

Scene Description:

Notes: The first 8 seconds (1:25-1:33 on the OST) are very similar to the same piece from the beginning of The Phantom Menace's score, but it was re-recorded along with the rest of this cue. The second-to-last chord, which would have played just before the explosion, was not used in the final cut of the film. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 64 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 28 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 18 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 90 bars

Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [0:00-0-1:02] (0:38) - only the beginning and end of the cue, as the middle 2:40 of the cue is edited out at 0:24

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 158 bars

Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [1:02-4:20] (3:18) - Mostly intact, but 23 seconds are microedited out at 2:23

Film Alterations: Guitar solos dialed out

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 158 bars

Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [4:20-7:27] (3:07) - Complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 21 bars

Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [7:27- end] (3:40) - mostly intact, missing only 23 seconds that were microedited out at 10:17

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 91 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations: A portion containing the force theme is replaced by a loop of the music just before, then no music, then tracked music from 4m5 and 4m4

Scene Description:

Notes: In the film when the 3 Jedi are conversing in the huge hall, a portion of music is looped and then faded out. Originally recorded music containing the force theme would have played here, but instead the scene plays with no music. Then tracked music from 4m5 and 4m4 plays until around Jar jar's line about "muy humility" - that's where the original cue comes back. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

10 2m3 Departure - 1:44

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 44 bars

Appears on OST: 05 Departing Coruscant - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 22 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 74 bars

Appears on OST: 04 Yoda and the Younglings - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: In the film, the end of this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue

 

13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 49 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations: None

Scene Description:

Notes: In the film the end of this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue

 

14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 36 bars

Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush on Coruscant [2:11-end] (1:35) - complete!

Film Alterations: Only the first 1:10 is used; The ending is replaced by 3m1 Insert

Scene Description:

 

15 3m1 Insert - 0:30

Orchestrator:

Length: 12 bars (begins at bar 28 of original 3m1)

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations: None

Scene Description:

 

16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 18 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 45 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 30 bars

Appears on OST: 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [1:27-end] - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: In the film, this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue

 

19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 62 bars

Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [0:00-1:37] / [2:12-2:29] - nothing is truly missing, see below

Film Alterations: Technically none - see below

Scene Description:

Notes: This version was never recorded - see notes on the next cue.

 

20 3m5 Insert - 0:35

Orchestrator:

Length: 18 bars, replaces bars 42-55 of original 3m5

Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [1:37-2:12]

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: The original version of 3m5 was never recorded. Instead, the 3m5 Insert was integrated into the sheet music before recording began, and the revised cue was recorded as 3m5R. The Insert replaces a 10 bar section with 14 new bars, bringing the total amount of bars to 66. The un-recorded original version featured the pastoral theme from the cue (the one appears right after the section in question), while the Insert replaced that with a rousing rendition of the Love Theme instead.

 

21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 49 bars

Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:39-2:11] (0:32) - only the beginning of the cue, as the OST track segues to 3m1 after 32 seconds

Film Alterations: A short section at the end is dialed out

Scene Description:

 

22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 76 bars

Appears on OST: 06 Anakin and Padme - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length: 62 bars

Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [2:29-end], which is only 1:43 of the 2:45 cue, as it is microedited twice. A 0:55 chuck is edited out at 2:40, and a 0:03 chunk is edited out at 3:52

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 179 bars

Appears on OST: 07 Jango's Escape, but with 4 seconds edited out at 3:16

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:
 

25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length : 13 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length: 81 bars

Appears on OST: 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [0:00-1:27] - but with 10 seconds edited out at 1:17, and the entire 40-second ending of the cue missing

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue overlaps with the next cue in the film

 

27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 102 bars

Appears on OST: 10 Return To Tatooine [0:00-4:09] - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue, like in the film and OST

 

28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 44 bars

Appears on OST: 10 Return To Tatooine [4:09-end] - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to overlap with the start of the next cue - it's even indicated on the sheet music to do so. However, they are presented without an overlap on the OST.

 

29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 52 bars

Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [0:00-2:43] - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: On the OST, the next cue begins too early. There is more space between cues in the film.

 

30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 56 bars

Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [2:43-4:00] - complete!

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: On the OST, the next cue begins at the start of the final note of this cue. In the film, the final note plays for a bit before the next cue begins. It is unclear which is the intended segue.

 

31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 51 bars

Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [4:00-end]

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 95 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations: Two performances of the Emperor's Theme from 7m3 are tracked in. As written, the Emperor's Theme is not used at all.

Scene Description:

Notes: As written, there was a buildup of dissonant chords that gives way to the big statement of Vader's Theme - in the film, a section of 7m3 Finale containing The Emperor's Theme was tracked in. There is another instance of the Emperor's Theme being tracked in as well. The DVD version of the scene differs from the theatrical version as well, editing the cue further with more looping. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue.

 

33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 78 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue was intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 18 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 66 bars

Appears on OST: 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:00-0:0:50] (0:50) - Heavily edited, with microedits at 0:23 (6 seconds), 0:35 (6 seconds), and 0:44 (40 seconds)

Film Alterations: After about 30 seconds, the rest of the cue is dropped and replaced by music tracked from a variety of different cues.

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue

 

36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 99 bars

Appears on OST: 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:0:50-end] - Edited. The rhythmic section from 2:36 to 3:01 is cut down from 38 seconds to 25 seconds, and then a faked ending is used instead of the final 32 seconds of the cue

Film Alterations: Almost completely replaced by music track from other cues (mostly the Zam Chase cues)

Scene Description:

Notes: The end of this cue actually appears before the rest in the final cut of the film, because the Senate Scene was moved to before the Conveyor Belt scene. Therefor, after the Obi-Wan/Dooku scene, the establishing shot of the Senate Chamber is scored with the end of this cue, segueing directly into 5m7 The Senate Scene as intended. As for the rest of the cue

 

37 5m6 Insert

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music):

Appears on OST:

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: It is currently unknown exactly what this cue is.

 

38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 42 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: In the final film, the opening notes of the next cue, Love Pledge, can actually be briefly heard at the end of the scene, despite the fact that the scene was moved to before the Conveyor Belt scene.

 

39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 64 bars

Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [0:00-2:41] - 2 seconds are edited out at 2:26

Film Alterations: Very end is replaced by a timpani roll.

Scene Description:

Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue, as heard on the OST. In the film, the very end is replaced by a timpani roll as almost all of 6m2 was not used.

 

40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 114 bars

Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [2:42-6:58] (4:16), only the clean ending is missing

Film Alterations: FIrst 3 minutes dropped completely; rest is mostly intact

Scene Description:

 

41 6m2 Sweetener - 0:06

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): bars

Appears on OST:

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: It is currently unknown exactly what this cue is.

 

The reason there is no 6m3 and 6m4 is because they were never written; WIlliams had to leave to work on Minority Report, so tracked music from The Phantom Menace was used in its place. 

 

42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 88 bars

Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [6:58-8:15] - with 2 sections missing (the 20 second opening and a 0:27 section at 7:10), the 6m5 Insert properly inserted (from 7:40-8:00), and a faked ending (see Notes)

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: On the OST as well as in the film, the 6m5 Insert using the Force Theme replaces the Love Theme originally written. In the film, the cue plays out properly, segueing into 7m1 as intended. However, on the OST something interesting was done. The ending of 3m1 Finding Kamino was actually tacked on! I believe this was done as the true ending of 6m5 doesn't sound well on its own, its MEANT to segue to 7m1. So everything from 8:15 to the end of the OST track is actually the end of 3m1, which is already on the OST in track 1.

 

43 6m5 Insert - 0:19

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): 14 bars

Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [7:40-8:00] - Complete

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This version of The Force Theme replaces the original version, which featured the Love Theme.

 

44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59

Orchestrator: Eddie Karam

Length (sheet music): 81 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 63 bars

Appears on OST: No

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

46 7m3 Finale - 5:28

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 129 bars

Appears on OST:

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

 

47 7m3 Insert - 0:38

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): 16 bars

Appears on OST: 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [2:59-3:37] (0:38) - Complete

Film Alterations:

Scene Description:

Notes: This replacement cue featuring The Imperial March replaces a portion of the original 7m3.

 

48 End Credit - 5:31

Orchestrator: Conrad Pope

Length (sheet music): 121 bars

Appears on OST: 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [5:36-end] - Edited (See Notes)

Film Alterations: Almost completely replaced by Across The Stars

Scene Description: The End Credits.

Notes: Coming soon.

 

49 End Credit (CD Version)

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music):

Appears on OST: No

Notes: Coming soon.

 

50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): 108 bars

Appears on OST: No

Notes: Coming soon.

 

51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): 138 bars

Appears on OST:

Notes: Coming soon.

 

52 Across The Stars - 5:38

Orchestrator:

Length (sheet music): 128 bars

Appears on OST: 02 Across The Stars

Notes: Coming soon.

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This is unfinished; I didn't get to filling in the Scene Descriptions, or explaining the FIVE versions of End Credit/Across The Stars. I'll get to that tomorrow. Hope you enjoy what is done, and feel free to send any corrections my way!

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Stay tuned to the mockup thread ;)

 

Forgot to explain the missing slate numbers:

 

1m1 is the Main Titles, which were entirely tracked from TPM, not re-recorded at all

 

2m4 would be Dex's Diner.

 

3m9 is the tracked music from TPM for Aankin and Padme's conversation after his nightmare, when he tells Padme his mother is suffering.

 

5m4 is the tracked music from TPM for Obi-Wan and Dooku's Conversation as well as Anakin and Padme's arrival at Geonosis

 

6m3 and 6m4 is all the tracked TPM music for the arena battle and clone battle on Geonosis

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Thanks Mikko. The evolution of the End Credit piece is pretty interesting, I hope to get to write it up tonight.

It was also fascinating to learn that they reprised "Arrival At Kamino" at the end of "Love Pledge and The Arena" on the OST. Can't believe I never noticed that before

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Thanks Mikko. The evolution of the End Credit piece is pretty interesting, I hope to get to write it up tonight.

It was also fascinating to learn that they reprised "Arrival At Kamino" at the end of "Love Pledge and The Arena" on the OST. Can't believe I never noticed that before

Yeah I was equally baffled how I had missed the similarity of the Love Pledge and the Arena ending as it sure sounds the same as Arrival At Kamino.

All this talk makes me wish I could read music! It would be so nice to know what the black dots in the staves mean exactly so I could participate in the discussion on that level as well. :D

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I really want to hear some of those altered cues with the inserts and such now lol

Alexander, be respectful of fellow board members and do not discuss their personal fan edits on the public boards without their permission - Jason

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I really want to hear some of those altered cues with the inserts and such now lol

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Yeah.... you probably do not want to post that.

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I really want to hear some of those altered cues with the inserts and such now lol

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Yeah.... you probably do not want to post that.

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1. I didn't name any site where this can be downloaded.

2. I did not offer to send any material to anybody who pm'ed me.

3. I did not ask you to pm me for a link.

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You didn't technically break any rules, but it would have been more appropriate, and respectful to the author of the fan edit, to not mention his edit on the public boards. Next time, use the PM system to tell Faleel which illegal files he can download, not the public forum. Thank you.

 

And Faleel, leave the administrating to the administration team, alright?

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And Faleel, leave the administrating to the administration team, alright?

Sure, I just didn't want to see Alexander banned for a week or anything

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The reason there is no 6m3 and 6m4 is because they were never written; WIlliams had to leave to work on Minority Report, so tracked music from The Phantom Menace was used in its place.

Is this information based on speculation, or do we now have some inside information? The only report I remember was that nothing was recorded for those scenes because they was still heavy work being done on them. I thought whether or not Williams actually wrote at least some music for these scenes is unknown. Though if he did write something, he probably scrapped it long before preparing for the recording sessions (perhaps when the changed scenes started flying at him).

BTW, I think that the 6m2 "Sweetener" is the last few seconds of the cue. In the film, it is actually the part that comes in after a few seconds of tracked music. Similar to what I said above, I wonder if there was possibly more written for 6m2 that was dropped at some point before the recording sessions, or if it originally led into a dropped 6m3. The sweetener could have been something created during the recording sessions to give the cue a better ending and lead-in to the tracked material.

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6m3 and 6m4 were never recorded. See the PDF file here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19354&st=320&p=706486entry706486

 

I thought the 6m2 Sweetener could maybe be the little timpani roll around when Anakain is force-calming the monster. I don't recall hearing anything from the end of the cue in the film that wasn't on the OST.

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6m3 and 6m4 were never recorded. See the PDF file here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19354&st=320&p=706486entry706486

I thought the 6m2 Sweetener could maybe be the little timpani roll around when Anakain is force-calming the monster. I don't recall hearing anything from the end of the cue in the film that wasn't on the OST.

I have seen the list. I was asking if there is confirmation that he did not write any music specifically due to Minority Report.

The part I was speculating to be the sweetener is on track 12 of the CD around the 6:53 - 6:58 area.

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I'm sure if he wrote music it would have been recorded. If he started writing but never finished it is likely we'll never see it. He probably just had any partially written sketches destroyed if there were any.

 

The 6m2 Sweetener is DEFINITELY not on the OST, neither is the 5m6 Insert.

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All right, I can't take it anymore. Jay, I know what I said about this, but I changed my mind. Hope I don't regret it. tongue.gif

I'm the guy Jason has been getting this AOTC analysis from, as well as the mockup of the unused "Finale" segment a month or two ago. (More to come eventually, and in better quality.) No, I don't have the recording sessions, but I do have...another resource. Most of you can probably guess exactly what that would be, and as much as I'd like to be able to share it, the fact of the matter is that I simply can't, not even for super rare trades, so please don't ask. I've made a promise, and I'm a man of my word. smile.gif

Now. With that out of the way...

I think that the 6m2 "Sweetener" is the last few seconds of the cue. In the film, it is actually the part that comes in after a few seconds of tracked music. Similar to what I said above, I wonder if there was possibly more written for 6m2 that was dropped at some point before the recording sessions, or if it originally led into a dropped 6m3. The sweetener could have been something created during the recording sessions to give the cue a better ending and lead-in to the tracked material.

No, the cue heard on the OST is exactly as it was written...the sweetener remains a mystery, unfortunately. The term usually seems to refer to a short overlay that's intended to give a little more life to another cue, so my guess is that it wasn't written for transitional purposes, but I could be wrong.

I thought the 6m2 Sweetener could maybe be the little timpani roll around when Anakain is force-calming the monster.

Well, the cue sheet in the post you linked to lists more than 90 musicians as playing for that three-measure cue, so it would have been something utilizing pretty much the whole orchestra. IIRC, that timpani roll was just taken from "Dooku vs. Obi-Wan."

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Right, I forgot to say I originally thought that, but then later realized it couldn't be that :)

 

Unfortunately the 5m6 Insert and 6m2 Sweetener will probably remain a mystery unless Recording Sessions surface.

 

Actually I think ggctuk has a theory about the 5m6 Insert based on something he heard in a video game, but I can't remember what it is right now.

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I'm sure if he wrote music it would have been recorded. If he started writing but never finished it is likely we'll never see it. He probably just had any partially written sketches destroyed if there were any.

The 6m2 Sweetener is DEFINITELY not on the OST, neither is the 5m6 Insert.

Ah, ok. I was just nit-picking whether or not he might have at least tried to write something. If he did, it is now possibly a missing link in understanding the thematic development and things like that. But has it been said for sure whether or not Minority Report was definitely the reason?

I was mistaken about the sweetener. Thanks for clearing that up, Jason. Thanks for all the great work you have put into this as well. :)

Edit: Thanks to Datameister for all of this as well.

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As we discussed in the thread, I think the 5M6 insert can be found topping off a Bounty hunter file containing the missing pieces of 5M5, but it's not complete - where that bit ends after the gong hit, it goes directly into the three notes that plays when Anakin remarks "Not again... Obi-Wan's going to kill me". I believe that is the 5M5 insert.

As I pointed out in the Prequel Resource Thread, the end credits in the album go thus:

TPM End Credits intro (with the final note removed and a loop inserted)

AOTC Zam's Dirty Trick ending (pitched up timp roll)

AAcross the Stars (up until the theme is played on the harp - from hereon out it is different material, with the theme played on harpsicord instead)

Can I ask what exactly we're missing from 6M2 Entrance of the Monsters that's not on the OST? The 9 missing seconds? And it's clear the 6M2 sweetner didn't even appear in the film.

EDIT: The film has an alteration for "2m1 Zam Is Eliminated" - where the percussion starts at 7:52, the percussion in the film is completely different up to the timp roll at 8:00.

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As we discussed in the thread, I think the 5M6 insert can be found topping off a Bounty hunter file containing the missing pieces of 5M5, but it's not complete - where that bit ends after the gong hit, it goes directly into the three notes that plays when Anakin remarks "Not again... Obi-Wan's going to kill me". I believe that is the 5M5 insert.

The "Obi-Wan's gonna kill me" music is tracked from "Finding The Conveyor Belt"

As I pointed out in the Prequel Resource Thread, the end credits in the album go thus:

TPM End Credits intro (with the final note removed and a loop inserted)

AOTC Zam's Dirty Trick ending (pitched up timp roll)

AAcross the Stars (up until the theme is played on the harp - from hereon out it is different material, with the theme played on harpsicord instead)

Close :) Stay tuned.

Can I ask what exactly we're missing from 6M2 Entrance of the Monsters that's not on the OST? The 9 missing seconds?

Just the clean ending

And it's clear the 6M2 sewwtner didn't even appear in the film.

Agreed.

EDIT: The film has an alteration for "2m1 Zam Is Eliminated" - where the percussion starts at 7:52, the percussion in the film is completely different up to the timp roll at 8:00.

Yea, I forgot to mention that thank you.

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Can I ask what exactly we're missing from 6M2 Entrance of the Monsters that's not on the OST? The 9 missing seconds?

Just the clean ending

Easily faked ;)

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As we discussed in the thread, I think the 5M6 insert can be found topping off a Bounty hunter file containing the missing pieces of 5M5, but it's not complete - where that bit ends after the gong hit, it goes directly into the three notes that plays when Anakin remarks "Not again... Obi-Wan's going to kill me". I believe that is the 5M5 insert.

Like Jay said, that's just part of "Finding the Conveyor Belt." I think it would have scored the droids overlooking the factory, but I'm not sure. What I do know is that it would have come right after that descending brass phrase that we have in one of the Bounty Hunter files, the one that comes after the unreleased frantic stuff in the violins.

As I pointed out in the Prequel Resource Thread, the end credits in the album go thus:

TPM End Credits intro (with the final note removed and a loop inserted)

AOTC Zam's Dirty Trick ending (pitched up timp roll)

AAcross the Stars (up until the theme is played on the harp - from hereon out it is different material, with the theme played on harpsicord instead)

Correct about the TPM credits, probably correct about "Zam's Dirty Trick", and sort of correct about Across the Stars. As far as we can tell, what you hear after the TPM stuff is mostly the cue "End Credit (Updated Gelb Version)", which was released in full on the OST as "Across the Stars", albeit with some modifications from how it was written. (The intro was chopped off, and the oboe solo that comes after that was originally written for piano.) The only parts that are different are the very beginning and the very end of this chunk of the credits - those are both taken from the cue "End Credit." That cue starts with the flowing major chords heard right after the TPM stuff (except it was shortened a little on the OST), then goes into a whole bunch of music that's note-for-note identical to the updated Gelb version. There's one extra oboe solo squeezed into the middle, which we don't have, and then the end includes Anakin's theme and everything.

The film has an alteration for "2m1 Zam Is Eliminated" - where the percussion starts at 7:52, the percussion in the film is completely different up to the timp roll at 8:00.

That one remains a mystery, sadly. I originally thought that must have been looped from something we already have, but the waveform actually doesn't look looped. Not sure what to make of it.

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As I pointed out in the Prequel Resource Thread, the end credits in the album go thus:

TPM End Credits intro (with the final note removed and a loop inserted)

AOTC Zam's Dirty Trick ending (pitched up timp roll)

AAcross the Stars (up until the theme is played on the harp - from hereon out it is different material, with the theme played on harpsicord instead)

Correct about the TPM credits, probably correct about "Zam's Dirty Trick", and sort of correct about Across the Stars. As far as we can tell, what you hear after the TPM stuff is mostly the cue "End Credit (Updated Gelb Version)", which was released in full on the OST as "Across the Stars", albeit with some modifications from how it was written. (The intro was chopped off, and the oboe solo that comes after that was originally written for piano.) The only parts that are different are the very beginning and the very end of this chunk of the credits - those are both taken from the cue "End Credit." That cue starts with the flowing major chords heard right after the TPM stuff (except it was shortened a little on the OST), then goes into a whole bunch of music that's note-for-note identical to the updated Gelb version. There's one extra oboe solo squeezed into the middle, which we don't have, and then the end includes Anakin's theme and everything.

Way to blow my wad before I could post :P

The film has an alteration for "2m1 Zam Is Eliminated" - where the percussion starts at 7:52, the percussion in the film is completely different up to the timp roll at 8:00.

That one remains a mystery, sadly. I originally thought that must have been looped from something we already have, but the waveform actually doesn't look looped. Not sure what to make of it.

Probably just a "2m1 Sweetener" that wasn't documented

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Way to blow my wad before I could post :P

You had your chance, slowpoke! ;)

Probably just a "2m1 Sweetener" that wasn't documented

More likely it would have been referred to as an insert, since it ostensibly wasn't intended to be overlaid on top of anything, but yeah.

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Way to blow my wad before I could post :P

You had your chance, slowpoke! ;)

Some of us WORK all day :P

Probably just a "2m1 Sweetener" that wasn't documented

More likely it would have been referred to as an insert, since it ostensibly wasn't intended to be overlaid on top of anything, but yeah.

Well, it's percussion only right? Usually a single instrument like that is called a sweetener from what I've seen

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Some of us WORK all day :P

Believe you me, I cannot wait till that's the case for me again!

Well, it's percussion only right? Usually a single instrument like that is called a sweetener from what I've seen

Nah, look at TOD, for instance - numerous sweeteners, all of which involve multiple instruments. And FWIW, this would have been multiple percussionists playing in unison, anyhow. As far as I can tell, the term "sweetener" refers to the cue's function with respect to the rest of the music in that scene, and if it's just going to replace another passage, it seems to be referred to as an insert.

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You also mentioned the 6M5 Insert suffered tinkering before they put it into the film? So I'm guessing they went beyond simple looping to omitting instruments and extending notes with this piece?

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What I mean is, what they did to it in the film went beyond simply looping - a little like they did in TPM by dropping out the piccolo/flutes in 6M7Pt2 and placing them on their own elsewhere. They didn't just loop - the first part, they had that note that sounds like it might have come from the Conveyor Belt, followed by strings only, it then goes into the Force Theme, with a couple of notes extended, and a loop leading the Force Theme out... but the underlaying instruments - the strings primarily - make the edit sound so natural to the untrained ear.

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Yea. We've established the cue was edited in the film. So was a bunch of others....... Are you just trying to make sure I make sure to point out this one?

Maybe I'm just not as concerned with how it was mangled in the film, since we have the intact performance on the OST.

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I meant to post this list night but I got cut off before I could actually post this.

Fair point about the 6M5 insert. It was probably the best edit ever made because to me it actually sounded fairly natural unlike other edits <scowls maliciously at the Conveyor Belt sequence>. I am curious however where that Conveyor-Belt-esque note comes from because it's used a couple more times - predominantly to start out the bit of the Finale cue they moved to the end of Yoda Strikes Back after the tracked material from 3M6. There's even a similar - but not idential - note in the Attack of the Clones music video.

I'm starting to have a funny feeling that the 6M2 Sweetner may actually be the timpani roll followed by the three timp hits that appear at the beginning of the film abridged version of "Entrance of the Monsters", and again repeatedly throughout the film edits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan and Yoda Strikes Back.

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I meant to post this list night but I got cut off before I could actually post this.

Fair point about the 6M5 insert. It was probably the best edit ever made because to me it actually sounded fairly natural unlike other edits <scowls maliciously at the Conveyor Belt sequence>. I am curious however where that Conveyor-Belt-esque note comes from because it's used a couple more times - predominantly to start out the bit of the Finale cue they moved to the end of Yoda Strikes Back after the tracked material from 3M6. There's even a similar - but not idential - note in the Attack of the Clones music video.

I'm starting to have a funny feeling that the 6M2 Sweetner may actually be the timpani roll followed by the three timp hits that appear at the beginning of the film abridged version of "Entrance of the Monsters", and again repeatedly throughout the film edits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan and Yoda Strikes Back.

I don't think so. The timpani roll followed by 3 hits is actually part of "Dooku Versus Obi-Wan", and it's meant to play at about the same time as the one layered over Zam Chase Pt. 1, the choir and the original cue. By the way, that conveyor belt-esque note is also used in Zam Chase Pt. 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_AVLQMws0

It's heard at 04:59.

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I am curious however where that Conveyor-Belt-esque note comes from because it's used a couple more times - predominantly to start out the bit of the Finale cue they moved to the end of Yoda Strikes Back after the tracked material from 3M6. There's even a similar - but not idential - note in the Attack of the Clones music video.

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to...can you be a little more specific?

I'm starting to have a funny feeling that the 6M2 Sweetner may actually be the timpani roll followed by the three timp hits that appear at the beginning of the film abridged version of "Entrance of the Monsters", and again repeatedly throughout the film edits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan and Yoda Strikes Back.

Nope, that really is from "Dooku vs. Obi-Wan." That cue did get hacked up in the film, but there isn't much in the way of tracked music there. All the timpani stuff belongs in that cue.

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I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to...can you be a little more specific?

He's referring to the note you can hear in the video above, at 04:59.

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What, the big minor chord that kicks off the drum break in the film version? I'm not sure where that was from. There are indeed a few other chords like it scattered in the film versions of other cues, but they're not identical. Maybe one of the sweeteners consisted of just a few such chords in a row? That'd actually make a lot of sense, considering the short length, use of the full orchestra, the fact that those chords WERE used as sweeteners, and the fact that we don't have any other strong contenders...

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I am curious however where that Conveyor-Belt-esque note comes from because it's used a couple more times - predominantly to start out the bit of the Finale cue they moved to the end of Yoda Strikes Back after the tracked material from 3M6. There's even a similar - but not idential - note in the Attack of the Clones music video.

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to...can you be a little more specific?

It's heard in the film version of Padme Falls, preceeding the Force Theme insert. It appears again after Yoda Strikes Back, starting the scene where Dooku's ship opens its solar chute.

I'm starting to have a funny feeling that the 6M2 Sweetner may actually be the timpani roll followed by the three timp hits that appear at the beginning of the film abridged version of "Entrance of the Monsters", and again repeatedly throughout the film edits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan and Yoda Strikes Back.

Nope, that really is from "Dooku vs. Obi-Wan." That cue did get hacked up in the film, but there isn't much in the way of tracked music there. All the timpani stuff belongs in that cue.

I really am at a loss then as to what this sweetner is. I am also curious as to how the missing bits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan sounded like.

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It's heard in the film version of Padme Falls, preceeding the Force Theme insert. It appears again after Yoda Strikes Back, starting the scene where Dooku's ship opens its solar chute.

Okay, yeah, we're talking about those tutti minor chords, then. I'm still thinking those could be one of the sweeteners. Or they could be taken from other cues, really...it's just hard to tell.

I am also curious as to how the missing bits of Dooku vs Obi-Wan sounded like.

Just be patient... ;) There really isn't too much actual content missing from the cue in the film...the biggest missing parts are some synth gong ambiance that can be reconstructed from bits we have in the game files, and a sparse, improvised percussion feature right after the love theme stuff. The other edits mostly just involve bits and pieces being shuffled around a little. The thing that sucks is that the game files are ostensibly from the film stems, so all these edits carry over into them, too.

"Yoda Strikes Back" is interesting, too. We're not really missing anything from that cue, but the trick is getting it all into the right order.

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The thing that sucks is that the game files are ostensibly from the film stems, so all these edits carry over into them, too.

There's a bit in the BF2 file that wasn't in the film. From about 1:15, this bit in the film was covered in a synth choir, and it also had the tracking of the opening to 1M7A - both of which are absent. After the third timp hit, the game file continues on with low strings as it was composed. Shame really - we could have done with that clean opening.

Its also curious that the game files - although they appear to be from the film stems - all have clean openings and endings. I'll leave that one though for discussion elsewhere.

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What, the big minor chord that kicks off the drum break in the film version? I'm not sure where that was from. There are indeed a few other chords like it scattered in the film versions of other cues, but they're not identical. Maybe one of the sweeteners consisted of just a few such chords in a row? That'd actually make a lot of sense, considering the short length, use of the full orchestra, the fact that those chords WERE used as sweeteners, and the fact that we don't have any other strong contenders...

Yes, the chord heard at the very end of the album version of 'The Conveyor Belt'.

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That's not a minor chord...just octaves. And the one heard in "Zam Chase Pt. 1" is fundamentally different - the top note is the fifth, not the tonic. No amount of re-pitching will achieve that.

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