Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Yeah I don't understand either. What's not "proper" about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 It's a good album but a complete release would be welcome. I would buy that. The movie celebrates it's 20th anniversary next year so perhaps then? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Wouldn't you say the difference between the amount of released source music and released score is too ridiculous to call annoying? And what's with that dialogue? If I want dialogue, I'll watch the film. Not to mention that final CD from the Anniversary Edition... Were they really being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Planet of the Apes (1968) It's a classic and it's the only one you need. That being said, I also watched: Beneath the Planet of the Apes Perhaps the first sequel that was basically a soft reboot of the original, bringing back characters in minor supporting roles (glorified cameos?) and more or less just repackaging the first one. Same shit happens. Hunky male human arrives, gets captured by apes, teams up with apes and that babe Nova, and then...wait, what the hell is this shit? Okay, but then there's your mind-blowing ending. At the very least, you've got to appreciate how whacked out those final 30 seconds are where Heston presses the button that presumably destroys the planet and, out of nowhere, a brief monologue by Paul Frees (who had just recently provided the narration for The Haunted Mansion at Disneyland) informs us of said destruction. It's got nothing on the Statue of Liberty, but it's pretty amazing in its own weird way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Contagion, a complete waste of time and effort. 1 out of 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 15 hours ago, Nick Tatopoulos's Beret said: Planet of the Apes (1968) It's a classic and it's the only one you need. That being said, I also watched: Beneath the Planet of the Apes Perhaps the first sequel that was basically a soft reboot of the original, bringing back characters in minor supporting roles (glorified cameos?) and more or less just repackaging the first one. Same shit happens. Hunky male human arrives, gets captured by apes, teams up with apes and that babe Nova, and then...wait, what the hell is this shit? Okay, but then there's your mind-blowing ending. At the very least, you've got to appreciate how whacked out those final 30 seconds are where Hide contents Heston presses the button that presumably destroys the planet and, out of nowhere, a brief monologue by Paul Frees (who had just recently provided the narration for The Haunted Mansion at Disneyland) informs us of said destruction. It's got nothing on the Statue of Liberty, but it's pretty amazing in its own weird way. I love Beneath. If they'd left it right there, it would have been a satisfying, if not bleak two-parter. Yet while the social satire of the first film was humourous and nuanced, it feels a bit ham-fisted in Beneath, with those chimp protesters and General Whats-his-face's "the only good human is a dead human!" speech. But once it gets to the underground mutants, it becomes interestingly trippy. And that hymn to the bomb they sing in unison is bone chillingly frightening in a weirdly gothic kind of way. To me, it's an underrated entry, probably only because the first was such a tough act to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Lonnegan said: Contagion, a complete waste of time and effort. 1 out of 5. I'm told it's a very realistic portrayal of what would happen in the event of an outbreak. Moreso then that Dustin Hoffman film. 1 hour ago, Shatner's Rug said: I love Beneath. If they'd left it right there, it would have been a satisfying, if not bleak two-parter. The film improved upon the first one by dropping the pinko commie social satire tone and getting to the point! If man cannot rule the Earth, then it should be destoyed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Would never have compared them in a million years, but Outbreak never let the facts get in the way of what is an exceedingly daft and watchable story. Contagion is just sanitary and bland with a genuinely surprising degree of pointlessness. It goes absolutely nowhere. Soderbergh's style is probably the least interesting to me of any filmmaker out there, and I literally couldn't think of less suitable material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Man is evil! Capable of nothing but destruction! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Jude Law's conspiracy theorist's cameo (rocking a horrible Aussie accent) feels about as contrived as the many others in there. It's like Towering Inferno in the style of a Dettol disinfectant advert with some famous people for the absolute sake of it. Probably the least suspenseful pandemic thriller ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Lonnegan said: Contagion, a complete waste of time and effort. 1 out of 5. I would disagree. I found it disturbing and realistic. It's not a great movie but it had moments that made me think how things would go in a real event. It had a horror movie quality and sex once again gets you killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 For the 'horrors' of sexual promiscuity I much, much preferred the far superior It Follows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 It wasn't great either but Contagion had a bigger body count. For me the horror of that film lies in man's inability, even in a modern age, of how to deal with the dead bodies. The Nazis made an industry of it and they couldn't keep up. How does one nation deal with 75 million dead bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Do you think Contagion depicted that well? I don't think it bothered to much at all to be honest. There wasn't much of a sense of human loss on a 'grand scale' in the way you describe, imo. The news anchors told us it was millions dead and that was that aspect pretty much covered, in Soderbergh's mind. The aftermath was, well, there was no aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Elvira Mistress of the Dark It is relentlessly corny and clearly an '80s movie, but you can never have enough tit and ass jokes -- most of it at the titular character's expense. It's sporadically funny, with enough double entendres and innuendo to choke a horse. It's an enjoyable time waster, but prepare to use the fast-forward button in some spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Teehee... Titular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Is that movie in Drax's top 20? Surely it must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Ohh I'll have to watch this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The Thing from Another World War of the Worlds and The Day the Earth Stood Still. A wonderful 50's marathon. Finished of the evening with a 70's thriller JAWS. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Starship Troopers A two-hour barrage of spectacle, noise, gratuitous gunfire and one baffling filmmaking choice after another. It stars perfect-looking Californian too-old-to-be-high-schoolers with the most perfect hair and make-up you'll ever see playing a bunch of high school characters (from South America, mind you) in a gritty, bloody space war. They live in a fascist world with clear Nazi stylings and seem perfectly happy to do so. The whole thing is baffling. Until you realize you're watching a film within a film, without the film around it. Surely, Starship Troopers is the kind of propaganda schlock these characters would watch on their off day. All its casting and stylistic decisions suddenly make sense when you look at the film this way. In that regard, it's brilliant. Even the news reports and commercials surrounding the narrative make sense that way. It's so weird Verhoeven offers basically no clue this is the way the film should be read (at one point, I wondered whether he was making a comedy without telling his cast - or even his DP, editor and composer) and the film's marketing still hasn't caught on to this day (the film is still marketed as an action adventure film, rather than the stick-up of propaganda it really is). This lack of a clear this-is-what-the-movie-is scene is probably the film's biggest failing and ultimately its bane to many moviegoers. So Starship Troopers is either the trashiest of trashy schlock or one of the most brilliantly tenacious sendups of fascism and propaganda you'll find, depending on how you look at it. But without a proper clue to the audience about what it is they're watching, it's no wonder this film's audience is still so divided on its merits twenty years after it was first released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 It's a near perfect film. So tongue in cheek. And one of the best CGI films of the early era. If only every CGI film held up this well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 I was very impressed with the quality of its visual effects. Hard to believe some of this is twenty year-old CGI! The practical effects are well done, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,295 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 And the score is phenomenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I'm surprised JoeinAr likes it. Isn't he a Verhoeven hater by birth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 He loves Robocop, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 How about The Mist? Surely Verhoeven misunderstood the infallible Steven King, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I know it's not Verhoeven (but Darabont) but just like Starship Troopers is a satire in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is Starship Troopers really satire in disguise though? I always though the Americans just didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 The Mist is satire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Is Starship Troopers really satire in disguise though? I always though the Americans just didn't get it. A lot of people like it for that reason. They say that Americans didn't get it because it actually makes fun of the U.S. 1 minute ago, Mr. Breathmask said: The Mist is satire? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,295 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 It was always obvious to me Starship Troopers was a satire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: A lot of people like it for that reason. They say that Americans didn't get it because it actually makes fun of the U.S. The Americans took Air Force One seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Just now, Jay said: It was always obvious to me Starship Troopers was a satire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yeah, but you are on a site that is visited by a lot of non-Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Jason has better then average taste for a yank. He even liked Tintin when no one in the US did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 And he likes renaissance TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 And he votes Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Brilliant! Eh ... wait a minute ... you're kidding, right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,295 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I am not voting for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Vote Bernie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I bought my ex a Make America Great Again hat in case she crawls back. I'm fucking pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 You said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: I bought my ex a Make America Great Again hat in case she crawls back. I'm fucking pathetic. You're not even American! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I always felt my love for the ID4 score made me an honourary American! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: I always felt my love for the ID4 score made me an honourary American! It certainly does not. The use of the letter U in honorary betrays your national allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Well... leave it to a Brit to create some of the most patriotic music in the history of American cinema! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: Well... leave it to a Brit to create some of the most patriotic music in the history of American cinema! They should take their property back, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Who would make a good Prime Minister of the United States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Boris Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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